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[Closed] Showing someone car controls, not on open road, insurance or not?

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Wanna go over the basic controls with a friend who wants to learn. Will not be on the road, maybe some quiet car park. Do I still need to get her insurance?


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:42 am
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Probably not on private land. Might be sensible though.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:43 am
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Be aware that if the public have access, then it can still be classed as a road.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:46 am
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Define "not on the road" and "private land"
If you can freely drive onto/into it then you can be prosecuted.
Lots of caselaw/precedents out there unfortunately.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:47 am
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You should always be insured. Even on private land, unless you own the land and it is locked off so no one else could possibly get in there, then it may be worth the risk.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:49 am
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I could show her with the engine off but she won't get the relationship between the clutch and accelerator pedals. Might just get her insurance then.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:53 am
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Sunday late afternoon in large retail carpark far away from parked cars after stores have closed. That'd be your best bet.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:57 am
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Do you have any public access vehicle training centres near you? You pay to use it and their insurance covers public liability.

I used one at Tockwith near York when I was learning to drive. It was a disused airfield.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 9:58 am
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Private land is different to a car park. Who do you expect to pay out the third party claim if the car hits a member of the public, any road furniture or a building.
Private land that is your property, not open to the public and you don't car if the car damages something there then not a problem although the student cold still claim from you as they are under your supervision.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:00 am
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Sunday late afternoon in large retail carpark far away from parked cars after stores have closed. That'd be your best bet.

See above - classed as a "public road".


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:04 am
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Are the days gone when teenagers would creep slowly up their Mum & Dad's driveway in first gear and then reverse back and do it again just to learn the controls and practice clutch control?
I was good enough for me and my mates when I were a lad.
Nothing bad ever happened to us..... except for that one time when my younger brothers foot slipped off the clutch and he panicked and drove my Dad's 7 series Beemer into the garage with the door closed 😯 😳


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:06 am
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I think you'll find that many places where the public have ready access would be classified as a public place and would require insurance.

You'll be committing offences if you are supervising them.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:12 am
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Frankly for all the hassle they'd be better off just paying for a lesson - lesson 1 is the basics and will cost £15 I guess?


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:17 am
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Let someone with dual controls get them up to speed with the basics.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:20 am
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It'll cost you more in insurance than one of the "10 lessons for £X" driving schools.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:46 am
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Yeah you can get off-road private car control tuition for youngesters, I think - might be something available.


 
Posted : 07/10/2015 10:50 am