@scot ah thanks had not seen that
I have a sneaky feeling May may put any "Brexit Bill" to a Parliamentary Vote, thats a trap for Labour et al and quite a good negotiating stance a bit like that famous line from Dangerous Liaisons "Its beyond my control" 🙂
I hope she stays. With every utterance from the knuckle dragging terrorist supporting ****wits she's aligning herself with and with every condition she fails to meet in the exit negotiations, the more the turkeys will realise that voting for Christmas probably wasn't so smart after all. So, stick in there Theresa and kill off any chance the Tories have for the next couple of elections
😆The result was driven mostly by Mays's disastrous Manifesto commitment to use home value to fund social care
^^ it should as its a sensible policy
He is pointing to the post above announcing the policy in the guardian
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-may-about-to-call-an-election/page/37#post-8480561
Jamby this is just getting silly now you are going to run out of positions to reverse soon and even may does fewer U turns than you
If there had been a conservative or labour majority would there be a petition to invalidate the vote?
Possibly, but it wouldn't be making the headlines... Thanks to the bigotry and corruption of the DUP the Tories have managed to create a lightning rod for the suddenly engaged 'youth' voters
Anti gay, anti abortion, climate change denial, creationism, not to mention that missing £1/2bn
These are all things that the Tories have spent decades trying to put behind them, of course the DUP won't be demanding an end to abortion or same sex marriage as their concessions,- it'll be cold hard cash -
The Tories bringing them into government are endorsing them
Even in the 80s the nasty party were reviled by the young ones, project Cameron helped cleanse that & culturally we've all moved on since then, it seems NI hasn't, maybe it WILL help bring NI forward in its thinking, but the impression will be that the Tories are moving back to their old ground and it's going to horrify and galvanise the youth vote & beyond.
Social media has been bouncing round pics & info about the DUP for the last few days, the petition is just the start
Keep it up Maybot & co, you are playing a blinder
We will scrap the Conservatives’
Brexit White Paper and replace it
with fresh [b]negotiating priorities that
have a strong emphasis on retaining
the benefits of the Single Market
and the Customs Union [/b]
That's the Labour Manifesto.
May tried to make it all about Brexit and lost her majority as Labour made the election about other things as they basically agreed with May on Brexit.
Not really the same at all!
We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first.
Versus Theresa May's manifesto pledge:
Blah blah blah David Davis blah blah nasty party blah bloody difficult
In answer to the OP, yes, of course she [i]should[/i].
I'm hoping she stays a bit longer. She's the gift that keeps giving. I'd have paid £3 to vote for her had I known she'd do this much damage.
It'd be worth it alone to see jamba and the rest of our pet right wing nut job bitty boys whinging about how bad a week its turning out to be. 😆
Labour recognises that leaving the
EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible
deal for Britain and that it would do
damage to our economy and trade.
[b]We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable
option[/b] and if needs be negotiate
transitional arrangements to avoid
a cliff-edge for the economy.
And a bit more 🙂
Theresa must go protest outside downing Street still ongoing,
morphed into anti DUP protest
It's not May, she's a human shield right now, Tory BSDs hiding behind her while the millennial momentum snowflakes protest
[url= https://twitter.com/iankatz1000/status/873542555601915907 ]This tweet[/url] from the editor of BBC2's Newsnight indicates what is now influencing every decision that May and the Conservatives take:
One of striking aspects of election aftermath is how many snr Tories agree they cant go to the country any time soon as Corbyn likely winner
[quote=dirtydog ]They're not forming a coalition though, will be some sort of agreement but not an actual coalition.
Even the tories know an actual coalition would be too much for some.Lol
You are ninfan and I claim my £5 😉
Fundamentally the damage done (in all senses and to all parties) is the same whether a coalition or not.
Like almost all petitions, that petition is daft, but it certainly shows something...
[quote=jambalaya ]@Klunk on that piece they make the point that a Government negotiating Brexit should be lead by someone who campaigned for Leave. If (when) May goes thats who will most likely be PM
cite 😉
What your mate Nige* actually said was that "she doesn't believe in it", to which Mr Schama made the obvious counter. Clearly that's a problem to Nige, but the logic of your assertion rather fails when Labour wins the next election - which of the Labour Leave MPs do you think should become PM? Of course the other issue is exactly the same assertions could be made about your mate Boris.
* whilst I still don't agree with him on much, it's become clear that Nige is a fairly shrewd politician
[quote=slowster ]One of striking aspects of election aftermath is how many snr Tories agree they cant go to the country any time soon as Corbyn likely winner
Unlike TM's coalition of chaos, that is a certainty. The trouble is the DUP will also be aware of that, as will everybody else sitting in the commons, and almost half of them will be quite keen on the idea.
TM is toast ...there will be no election in the short term but she will be gone into weeks
Badly advised and perhaps very aloof ....
I'm surprised that no one from the Tory's has blamed the Russians yet
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My local MP is openly gay was in a safe Tory seat with nearly 10k majority, now in a 1000 vote marginal, he's getting hostility on Twitter from local gay community about DUP coalition
19 out Tory MPs (45 in total, world record)
Highest number of women MPs ever elected to parliament
Country is now in hock to these guys....
All for a 2 seat majority 😯
#freeTheresa
"With every ten clubcard points".
Brexit should be lead by someone who campaigned for Leave. If (when) May goes thats who will most likely be PM
perhaps they can use the key points from the leave manifesto? you know, that well written and argued series of guidelines and justification for leaving.
oh wait, it was a man-monkey shitting in his hand and throwing it at the fan that is the daily mail.
Ever since the GE was called May has been acting light a rabbit caught in headlights and her erractic, indescive and impulsive behaviour has increasingly worsened.
Someone needs to put her out of her misery and put a halt to her chaotic ( and resulting dangerous) behaviour. It will only get worse the longer she stays as PM.
The stupid thing is, if she was rational and conceded that we need a cross party group on Brexit and accepted that some areas of Tory policy needed refinement (as several senior tories have suggested post result), I think she could happily have formed a minority govt. without DUP help and come out of this much more popular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_tenure
Maybe she just wants to get up the list a bit. There was a very funny twist in the Australian PM change where they ousted the very unpopular Tony "budgie smugglers" Abbot about a week before his gold plated pension would have been earned. Knifed and twisted there... Is there anything like that in the UK?
The smart plotters will know that she needs to take the fall for a few things first in order for them to come in on the up.
Somebody tweeted me an acronym but I've lost their details.Hats off to whoever suggested Conservative and Unionist Negotiating Team
Armando Iannucci
It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP. The whole thing smacks of her continuing to misread public opinion to a spectacular degree.
Her public speeches since the election have also been pretty delusional, are her supporters even believing the BS?
It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP. The whole thing smacks of her continuing to misread public opinion to a spectacular degree.
Well it looks like yet another U-turn cock-up, as the DUP say that the Tory announcement of a deal is not true. More strength and stability. Not.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/theresa-may-dup-deal-snag-tory-rebellion
I'm told that the humane and efficient thing to do is give her a head start, then let the news hounds chase her until they catch her and rip her apart in a quick and painless kill.
I couldn't comment of course as I have no real knowledge of the issue. 😉
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LOL if Boris falls for that one his more of a fool than we ever thought 🙂
Chancellor demands softer Brexit for business
You might as well call the whole thing off 😀
I'd like her to stay on. I always like watching political reputations slowly being disassembled in the full glare of 24 media and twitter.
She could have looked for a 52:48 Brexit that worked for all. She didn't.
Time for revenge I think.
But then I'm not a nice person am I. 8)
Is 'bloody difficult woman' the same as 'bloody ignorant woman'.
Just bloody stupid
The smart plotters will know that she needs to take the fall for a few things first in order for them to come in on the up.
Yeah she's just a punchbag right now, they're pushing May's personal friendship with Foster
Hoping the DUP toxicity can be owned by May, not the whole party.
And we thought they were ruthless dismantling Cameron's reputation!
The fat Pinnata looks like he is being lined up to finish TM, IMO that would make this disaster even worse.
The fat Pinnata looks like he is being lined up to finish TM, IMO that would make this disaster even worse.
For who?
Everyone 😆
So wait, despite the Gov saying last night they'd made a deal with the DUP
they're now saying that they haven't agreed one yet.
The Coalition of Chaos tag couldn't be more true 🙂
Everyone
I don't know, the longer this omnishambles continues, the stronger labour gets. They don't really need to campaign anymore, the tories are doing it for them...
I have been crossing my fingers that no deal is agreed and we have to back to the polls. I'd vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and [I have a potty mouth] up brexit 🙂
I'd vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and f!ck up brexit
The bar has been set pretty low.
. I'd vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and f!ck up brexit
Is that like cranberry paying his £3 to vote for Corbyn to destroy labour as an electoral force
How did that work out again....?
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the daily fail is having a nervous breakdown at the moment, everyones to blame except immigrants and the EU 😯 😀
they're now saying that they haven't agreed one yet.
No more progress until Monday apparently since the DUP will be too busy locking up swings and the like to do politics. Perhaps Corbyn could send them a photo of him working in his allotment and ask if that is permissable to confuse things a while longer.
LOL if Boris falls for that one his more of a fool than we ever thought
In ordinary circumstances it's possible that encouraging Boris to make a leadership bid could be a trap, but these are not ordinary circumstances.
Every cabinet minister and every Conservative MP now knows that May is a disaster in an election campaign, and they also know that they probably only have a year or two at the very most - possibly even only a few months - before the next election.
The Conservatives know that they must stop the rot and reverse what is looking dangerously like a sharply downward trend. Simply electing a supposedly safe pair of hands as leader like David Davis or Hammond etc. is not going to be good enough. They need to turn things around very quickly, and Boris is the obvious, and probably only candidate with the star quality who might be able to do that.
I suspect it's not a case of Boris deciding when to make his bid, but rather that he is letting the BSDs in the party come to him as supplicants asking/begging him to take on the leadership and get them out of the mess they are in. Boris is probably in a position to demand a very high price to take over as leader, e.g. complete freedom of choice of cabinet members, and sweeping control over Brexit negotiations (not a hard Brexit or a soft Brexit, but a Boris Brexit).
If Boris takes over, then I would expect an early election: there is no way he would try to persevere with the DUP deal, which will only damage the Conservatives (and him if he is leader) the longer it lasts.
"Boris Boris Boris Boris....."
*ahem*
Andrew Mitchell
It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP
they ordered her not to do a formal coalition hence why its an informal arrangement- even the TOries dont want to get into bed with that lot
