igm - Member
They can't do another election - not enough time before the A50 cut off and Corbyn might well win.
polls have him at 6-7 pt lead (thats the reliable yougov one)
I got a full maintainence grant.
I haven't pulled up the drawbridge either and worked 25 years in fortunately well paid paye jobs. However that was in a time of largely 40% tax, once it went to 50 I left. If I had my time again I would not work in paye employment where you are a sitting duck. This is the fundamental difficulty with the study now pay later model, there is no certainty you'll get the money back.
so, you got your education fully paid for, and ****ing off when you arbitrarily decide you're paying too much tax, on the back of that education you received for free. isn't this pulling up the drawbridge? 😯
polls have him at 6-7 pt lead (thats the reliable yougov one)
He should offer DUP a counter-deal to bring down the government! 😆
I don't want him consorting with the political wing of a terrorist organisation. I mean just because the Tories do doesn't make it alright. 😉
WTO annecdote. So last weekend I was helping some Swiss friends get their boat setup for a UK regatta. Local sales agent was F-ing and blinding about Brexit. So I looked up WTO tariffs on yachts. 0.8% (typical range 0-2%). So a £100k new yacht would be a maximum of £800 more expensive due to tariffs. Remember VAT is £20k. Now currency moves are much more significant but they can go both ways of courseWTO tariffs are not "no deal". They are the same deal as the US etc have
for the many eh...
I think the general public might be more interested in the food tarrifs which seem to be between 5-12%...
edit:
seems to be more like 22%.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-tariffs-idUKKBN17M1LM
and which will disproportionately impact the poor.
good eh.
edit edit:
if it was anyone else I'd say you were trolling.
so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,
but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option
why doesnt someone write this on a bus?
its a sure-fired election winner
so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option
It's almost as if he has put less effort into research than the brexit department. Perhaps this should be a lesson to read more than you type.
why doesnt someone write this on a bus?its a sure-fired election winner
could turn Kensington & Chelsea away from a hot bed of socialist ardor, oh yeah scratch that Roman Abromovich doesn't get a vote.
let them eat luxury yachts
why doesnt someone write this on a bus?
😆
I'm genuinely concerned for Theresa May's physical and mental health, I just watched a retweet of her being interviewed on Sky from yesterday.
I'm reminded of that time when an extremely poorly Konstantin Chernenko was marched from his hospital bed to vote. Keeping May in No. 10 is inhumane...
...oh hang on, this is the Conservatives I'm talking about.
I wonder if the age of soundbite and smear is beginning to end? Politicians might have to do some real actual work in providing costed distinct policies now. I think the Tories should accept that and get on with it.
@molgrips, I think that you have made an excellent point. The established media have failed to bury Corbyn and Labour, because they have no presence in the voting demographic that has been mobilised by Labour's policies. An expensive, but clearly fruitful tactical decision by the Labour campaign.
[url= http://https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/09/tabloids-crush-corbyn-power-politics-sun-mail-labour?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other ]Here[/url]
And a slightly more prosaic view from The New Yorker:
[url= http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-book-of-jeremy-corbyn ]Here.[/url]
cool -> "let them eat luxury yachts" <- cool
new J slogan
kimbers - Member
so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option
why doesnt someone write this on a bus?
its a sure-fired election winner
Can we afford buses under WTO tariffs then?
only reason for that is that none of the rest want to take the blame for brexit.Klunk - Member
can't sack her
PJM1974 - Member
@molgrips, I think that you have made an excellent point. The established media have failed to bury Corbyn and Labour, because they have no presence in the voting demographic that has been mobilised by Labour's policies.
It's not just younger new voters either.
STW gets millions of individual hits per month.
As much as I find some of the content on the political threads distasteful, they give the right wing ideologs plenty of rope.
They certainly don't come across well.
As much as I dislike certain elements of our forum, I'm delighted that their views are documented.
The nastier they are, the more reasonable the rest of you appear.
And do you really think Jambers isn't trolling with his yacht talk?
He must know how it comes across.
Long may he continue, it can only be to the benefit of the rest of us.
And do you really think Jambers isn't trolling with his yacht talk?
He must know how it comes across.
hmm - a complete lack of self-awareness seems to be a prerequisite for right wing bampottery though, ha I'll tell them I was helping a friend with a yacht, then they'll see how cool I am and can't fail to agree with me.
He is an experienced yachtsman, so those are the circles he moves in.
(Not a sarcastic comment, btw).
But it would take a level of insensitivity I'm not sure even he possesses to be entirely serious on the matter, so I assume he's having a bit of fun with us.
only reason for that is that none of the rest want to take the blame for brexit.
It's not that, it's because if they replace her with an 'unelected' leader then it will be much harder for them to resist calls for a new general election, and they know that Corbyn has the momentum at the moment.
Queens Speech 'delayed'.
Calls from every wing of the party to back the blessed Theresa.
Is this a dagger I see [s]before[/s] behind her?
I can almost see the Tories chucking this and passing the poisoned chalice to the rest of us.
It's been delayed because she has no support, from anyone not even her own Party.
It's been delayed because she has no support, from anyone not even her own Party.
+1 but hardly a surprise considering the lead she squandered over the last 7 weeks. Also, you can p*ss people off in your party when you are winning, but when you start doing badly then don't expect them to be nice to you. It's pay back time.
+1 but hardly a surprise considering the lead she squandered over the last 7 weeks. Also, you can p*ss people off in your party when you are winning, but when you start doing badly then don't expect them to be nice to you. It's pay back time.
Maybot shoulders a lot of the blame, no doubt, but how much of this election was another protest against austerity?
certainly Corbyn garnered some support from those whose main objective was sticking 2 fingers up at the status quo, perhaps explaining why labour got so many of the UKIP votes back the Tories were counting on with their Hard Brexit bollox
I do say I'm enjoying all the infighting and squirming, claims and counter claims and misinformation being spouted by the Nasty Party.
The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.
it's a slow motion car crash.
From the BBC:-
One of the reasons for the delay is also believed to be because the speech [b]has[/b] to be written on goat's skin parchment paper, which takes a few days to dry - and the Tory negotiations with the DUP mean it cannot be ready in time.
HAS to be written on a goat. Really, it HAS to be written on a goat? One of the more stupid bits of 'traditional' I've heard recently.
It is. Unfortunately, I also think it's damaging.The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.
Hard to see the rest of the world taking us as seriously as they used to before Brexit.
There was a load of talk about this a while back. Vellum.HAS to be written on a goat. Really, it HAS to be written on a goat? One of the more stupid bits of 'traditional' I've heard recently.
It's all about life expectancy.
I've no idea why they need this particular speech to last 500 years though, given that there'll be another around the corner.
AlexSimon - Member
The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.
It is. Unfortunately, I also think it's damaging.
Hard to see the rest of the world taking us as seriously as they used to before Brexit.
Agreed. We should join a large trading block to acquire the gravitas that comes from being part of a larger team.
You know the way we used to punch above our weight because we were part of Europe.
So what are they going to do with the rest of the goat? There isn't a great goat eating tradtion in the UK? Are we going to sacrifice a goat make a offering to the gods, examine its entrails?
It'll be a foreign goat.
There was a load of talk about this a while back. Vellum.
It's all about life expectancy.
I've no idea why they need this particular speech to last 500 years though, given that there'll be another around the corner.
how many goats must die to satisfy the Torys lust for power?
finishthat - Member"let them eat luxury yachts"
Just quoting it because it's too good to get lost amidst the goat chat (which itself is pretty damn good)
Foolscap goat?
<ahem> at least attribute it right, Northwind 😉
let them eat luxury yachts
in fairness to jamba, in the scale of yacht ownership £100k isn't that much to spend so maybe he thought it was an example the common man could relate too.
😆
Foolscap goat?
Certainly none of that metric nonsense.
Slightly differently worded comment about goat skin on the BBC live election fallout feed:
it has to be written on goat-skin - and that takes a week to process, because [b]it has to be hung up to dry[/b]
😆
#goatlivesmatter
If there needs to be a lasting record of the speech, write it out on the goat afterwards. It's not going to change then, is it?
For the purpose of drafting it and reading it, use an ipad - or an ipad in a goatskin case, if you like.
So last weekend I was helping some Swiss friends get their boat setup for a UK regatta.
As you do.
because it has to be hung [s]up[/s] out to dry
FTFY

