[Closed] Should Theresa May resign?

I can hear MAlcolm Tucker shrieking "Do I look like a ****ing goatherd? Just get me a dry ****ing goat you stupid ****ing ****s!!"

This whole fiasco was caused in large part by the youth coming out and voting.

So, in other words, she would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids!

So last weekend I was helping some Swiss friends get their [s]b[/s]goat setup

 

[s]Gove[/s] goat for PM, that would show all the bleating heart liberals what's what

My sister is a teacher and I could have written a similar post about a yacht except it would have been about crewing the boat. It's just a hobby and like motorsport for most people it's a rich man's sport played by poor people.

I don't think it's intended to offend. Jamba's comments on his in-laws' voting habits and lifestyle in Paris make me smile more than anything - in my head they are the rich family from "la vie est un long fleuve tranquille" mixed with the manif pour tous catho' families dropping their kids off at the school Madame works for. CFH messes around with snobby posh allusions and people seem to find that funny.

On-topic, the longer May stays the more damage she will do, just like Hollande. Damage to both the economy, the Brexit clan and ultimately her party. Long may she reign - but not long enough to finalise Brexit.

And if / when she does resign, the line of muppets looking to take over from her is worrying.

In fairness to jamba the only person I know who owns a yacht* is also a vocal Labour supporter

* The only goat owner I know is not a UK resident

the only person I know who owns a yacht* is also a vocal Labour supporter

The only communist I know has a substantial yacht.

He is an experienced yachtsman, so those are the circles he moves in.

he may be experienced but he can't be that competent if he's just sailing the boat round in circles.

Maybe if he was a little more balanced and wasn't leaning so hard over to the right then the thing would sail in a straight line 🙂

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These tariffs will be so tiny nobody will notice

She's at the England footy match right now

Good to see she's got her priorities right

party to another loss you mean? 😛

Interesting that she couldn't face the families/communities around Grenfell.
I think she's become the unacceptable face of the Conservative Party now.
I still think that they'll need a much more moderate-looking leader in the near future if they want to reverse the swing.

I still think that they'll need a much more moderate-looking leader in the near future if they want to reverse the swing.

Who's your money on? Gove or Rees-Mogg?

I'm sure some ghastly creature will crawl out from the tory back bench rock and stake a claim.

Interesting that she couldn't face the families/communities around Grenfell.

I cannot remember another PM doing this over such an event.

Whilst other tories may be more capable in some regards i really dont think another posh toff* will help them currently

* i know Gove isnt but he will be perceived as such and he hardly scores higher on the able to relate to people scale
RM is a PM form the 30's, possibly 1830's, when we were deferential. Surely too aloof to win a GE.

I dont think there is anyone obvious and baggage free tbh and I doubt anyone really wants to deal with Brexit and be leader of a non majority. They may limp on for a while with her in "charge"

The current crop of MPs risk losing their jobs if they kick her out (new election is inevitable). So they are stuck with "strong and stable" until the govt collapses in a heap. It's so much fun watching it happen,

Ken Clarke - caretaker PM. He could steer us through Brexit and retire to the Lords before the next GE.

David Davis is possibly their best bet. Theresa May has really out stayed her welcome, visiting Grenfell today but not meeting residents is the most heartless electioneering (though she's a week or so late with that) that I've seen in a long time...

Thatcher in the Rye must go, stolen from John Oliver.

Would agree about Ken Clarke, but he stepped down didn't he?

Edit, he announced his intention to stand down then did a u-turn, how apt!

[quote=scotroutes ]Ken Clarke - caretaker PM. He could steer us through Brexit and retire to the Lords before the next GE.

this is one of those posts where we apply your rule

He is never going to vote to leave the EU never min coordinate it

he announced he would stand down - expecting a vote in 2020 but stood in the latest

he is father of the house

Ken Clarke has a better chance of being the next leader of the Lib Dems than the Tories, the rank and file hate him. It has to be Boris every other nightmare has happened. Brexit and Trump were two things I thought so left field that I shouldn't worry so we might as well pick the bumbling posh liar.

[quote=Junkyard ]She really does seem scared of people and unable /unwilling to relate to them
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* i know Gove isnt but he will be perceived as such and he hardly scores higher on the able to relate to people scale

It's bizarre to think they're actually worse than us lot on the interpersonal skills (yeah I know some of you lot have social skills, but I'm far from unique on here).

[quote=El Vino ]It has to be Boris every other nightmare has happened.

He does seem the only option. For those of us enjoying watching the [s]world[/s] Tory party burning, he does have the obvious merit of being prepared to completely **** them up for his own personal benefit in a way I'm not sure any of the others quite have the self belief to do - not even Hubris May.

I think even the tories know Boris is divisive

However if there is one person who can do an about face it is boris

therefore he becomes leader and we do not do Brexit ....its the only choice that makes sense in the current political climate

TBH i suspect he is young enough to know whoever is next will get hammered over Brexit so he want to be the next but one leader. Whether they can find someone stupid enough to take back control now i am not so sure.

Re Grenfell Tower and May's visit Peter Snow from C4 news was acosted for their coverage and police had to escort away people trying to aggressively confront Sadiq Kahn. I am sure police advice was that she should not wander around.

As for the yachts reference I raised it as the importer/dealer was whining like crazy (F-ing and blinding as I posted) about Brexit when if you look at tariffs they'll make no difference. Sold my boat years ago when tax rates went up and I left the UK, money I used to spend went into my pension. Another example of tax rises having the effect of reducing tax revenue. Lafer Curve and all that.

As for the likely leadship contender Boris won two London Mayoral terms in a vote demographic which massively favours Labour.

As for the yachts reference I raised it as the importer/dealer was whining like crazy (F-ing and blinding as I posted) about Brexit when if you look at tariffs they'll make no difference

So are you saying this is true across the economy? That tariffs won't actually hurt us?

Just introduce US style taxation laws then Jamba.

[quote=Junkyard ]TBH i suspect he is young enough to know whoever is next will get hammered over Brexit so he want to be the next but one leader. Whether they can find someone stupid enough to take back control now i am not so sure.

But he thought that at the last leadership election. In the same way the leadership contest when Hague resigned was the one to win...

[quote=jambalaya ]As for the yachts reference I raised it as the importer/dealer was whining like crazy (F-ing and blinding as I posted) about Brexit when if you look at tariffs they'll make no difference. Sold my boat years ago when tax rates went up and I left the UK, money I used to spend went into my pension. Another example of tax rises having the effect of reducing tax revenue. Lafer Curve and all that.

What's the plural of anecdote?

Interesting that she couldn't face the families/communities around Grenfell.

or at the very least, didn't think it wise, or was advised not to. Either way it's an own goal that hasn't been missed by anyone.

khan visited after her so strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]- i know its pointless but even so much as hint of a source for that fact you seem to have just pulled out the air?

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Andrew Mitchell

khan visited after her so strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]- i know its pointless but even so much as hint of a source for that fact you seem to have just pulled out the air?

chill yer boots, I was merely speculating that she may have either decided herself or recieved advice just guessing like... (they have advisors, politicians, you know...) 😆 🙄

can you give a citation to people trying to confront Khan being led away please I can only see reference to one angry person

strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]-

Do you really think that police/protection teams would view the terrorism or indeed other risk profiles (nutjob protesters) for the PM the same as that for Corbyn or Kahn?

And lets not forget - Jezza's not quite so much a man of the people as sometimes gets made out, he gets the protection officers too:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/jeremy-corbyns-armed-cops-tackle-moped-thieves-at-gunpoint-as-labour-leader-enjoys-lunch-in-hoxton-a3552266.html

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I am allowed to take the piss on this thread without people getting offended aren't I? Because it seems odd seeing a pic of Maybot in "public" where the people she's meeting aren't holding placards with soundbites - it's also a shame the shot is too far away so you can't tell how pleased everybody is to be there.

I was not replying to you and had not read your post till now

Nonetheless same question though any proof to substantiate the assertion?

she seemed to have plenty of police to look after her.

Jezza probably needs the protection officers because of angry right wing gun nut jobs

[quote=ninfan ]Do you really think that police/protection teams would view the terrorism or indeed other risk profiles (nutjob protesters) for the PM the same as that for Corbyn or Kahn?

Good point - they're probably not hated in the same way she is, and that would also explain why she's not met the real public in the last 6 weeks.

And lets not forget - Jezza's not quite so much a man of the people as sometimes gets made out, he gets the protection officers too:

You're really struggling now, aren't you zulu? You're using this as an example of Jezza no meeting real people? 🙄 The really hilarious thing is how it contradicts the first part of your post.

You are all being very unfair on Jamby and his yacht. Yachts are available to suit all budgets - I earn not much more than minimum wage and I have one. Possibly a bit smaller and cheaper than Jamby's friends though.

My yacht is very small...
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And Jamby's is far away...
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ou're using this as an example of Jezza no meeting real people?

Erm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.

so essentially in public she is not safe and that is why she never meets the public?

Seems to me like its a shit and weak excuse for her lacking basic humanity like compassion , grace and warmth....ah that is why you are defending her peas in a pod though I assume you can walk the streets safe from harm 😉

Sold my boat years ago when tax rates went up and I left the UK, money I used to spend went into my pension. Another example of tax rises having the effect of reducing tax revenue

he has a french wife and a good pension so he is free from the consequences of the vote

Maybot may, Maybot may not.