I think that as this storm grows stronger, feelings could get out of hand. I'm as disgusted as the next man at the allegations but I wouldn't want to see his grave robbed and his remains abused to make a point. I think his family should obtain a permit to exhume and cremate his remains. The urn can be kept out of harm's way more easily.
why?
OP, I think this does not concern you.
None of your business.
(Or mine)
It's a story on the BBC news. Why can't the OP start a thread on it?
Personally I'd just tip his corpse in a cess pit, seems like a fitting place for him to spend eternity.
I think he should be dug up and fired into space, its the safest way for everybody!
I wouldn't want to see his grave robbed and his remains abused to make a point.
Wasn't he buried under about three feet of concrete so that nobody could steal his jangle jangle jewellery?
I'd think all the energy presently being wasted on Saville would be considerably better deployed on pursuing those still very much alive, and up to similar behavior
Why can't the OP start a thread on it?
I never suggested he couldn't start a thread about it.
My response was in answer to this particular bit ....
I think his family should obtain a permit to exhume and cremate his remains
And my response was that's its none of our business.
Because it isn't.
The guy is dead - nothing that anybody does will lead to him being punished for his crimes.
Digging him up and flogging the corpse is on the same level as burning the flags of other nations. Simply pointless posturing. Much better to address the living issues IMHO.
glupton1976 - Member
The guy is dead - nothing that anybody does will lead to him being punished for his crimes.
Sadly very true.
But the list presented to my mate Dave on TV this morning is a completely different matter.
All a bit knee jerky and decidedly over dramatic; who else shall we dig up? Which murderers, which other sex offenders?
All getting a wee bit Princess Di for my liking, what happened to the tut as a way of expressing disapproval?
Here's a link to the news story... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20243847
Not really worth debating the semantics of "none of our business" on an internet forum.
Is it O.K. to have no opinion one way or the other because I couldn't care less and see no reason why I should?
Binners and Crikey type wise words.
Not really worth debating the semantics of "none of our business" on an internet forum.
I agree.
But am I still allowed to think that it's none of mine (or yours) what his family choose to do with his remains. ?
I thought removing the gravestone was a step too far and a complete waste of money.
I don't see what it achieves. His neighbours won't give a toss, and like it or not Sir Jimmy Saville, the great Kiddy Fiddler (if proven guilty) is now a part of British history. Just like Jack the Ripper, Guy Fawkes, and the rest of the rabble. You never know, he might even be good for tourism.
Keep him where he is and start selling hot dogs and ice cream. He's not bothering anyone anymore.
But am I still allowed to think that it's none of mine (or yours) what his family choose to do with his remains. ?
Ummm. No you're not. 🙂
Anyway, here's what David Cameron thinks about pursuing those stil alive;
There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay
Obviously.
monksie - Member
Binners and Crikey type wise words
You think so? If members of Binners' family had been abused by Savile, then I doubt he'd feel the same...
And crikey - if all the people who assisted Savile in his vile campaign took some action rather than TUTTING, then maybe the abuse could have been stopped before it became as acceptable as it seems to have been.
TUT
[i]There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay
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Yes, I heard that too - have I missed something?
You think so? If members of Binners' family had been abused by Savile, then I doubt he'd feel the same...
Funnily, I'm generally a bit more rational than that. If, god forbid, that was the case, then I can assure you it would massively reinforce the opinion I expressed above
Huh? How does being gay come into it?
Rachel
Well yes, but all this after the fact hysteria and hand wringing isn't really helping anyone except those people who sell newspapers. Lots of inquiries, lots of legal fees, lots of disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, lots of lurid headlines...
Not helping anyone, really.
Support the victims, investigate the issue, apportion blame as required, but without the pitchforks and burning torches please.
[i]Huh? How does being gay come into it?
[/i]
Same question as I, do we know who's on the 'list', or is it more that they are predominately gay?
I think it's because the Conservatives love gay people now and Dave's just worried because not everyone does.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939
OMG, it's finally happened - I agree with Flashy.
Let's just nuke Yorkshire.
Any chance you could give me a heads up when it's happening ?
I've got a voucher for £5 off at the chippy and I'd hate to waste it.
£5 off? In a chippy?
'kin hell, that's a lotta pies right there!
Guy Fawkes, and the rest of the rabble.
What did Guy Fawkes do that was so wrong?
[i]I'd think all the energy presently being wasted on Saville would be considerably better deployed on pursuing those still very much alive, and up to similar behavior [/i]
Quite
[i]Same question as I, do we know who's on the 'list', or is it more that they are predominately gay? [/i]
The latter. For once, and given the totality of what he said and the context in which he said it (which you don't get from the one-liner STW snippets) I, for possibly the first time ever, agree with Dave.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20251939
what binners said ^^^ no matter how rich or powerful they are. would also like to see the people who condoned/covered up what was happening to find themselves in the dock
Rachel - no idea
G
I thought removing the gravestone was a step too far and a complete waste of money.
It had a spelling mistake on it, so entirely correct to remove it. By STW standards anyway.
It had a spelling mistake on it
Paedophile spelled the American way? Quite right too! 😉
What did Guy Fawkes do that was so wrong?
He failed to blow up the Houses of Parliament.
Are we going to dig him up so we can have a public hanging, just like back in the good old days?
binners - MemberYou think so? If members of Binners' family had been abused by Savile, then I doubt he'd feel the same...
Funnily, I'm generally a bit more rational than that. If, god forbid, that was the case, then I can assure you it would massively reinforce the opinion I expressed above
So you wouldn't want it investigated if it happened to a member of your own family... I don't have anything else to say to that really, not without calling you a liar anyway.
There's investigating and then there's hysterical over-reaction...
Butcher & Binners & Grum +1
what a load of hysterical nonsense
Get a grip.
Of course if his family had any sense they be quietly distancing themselves from Saville, I think that's what the headstone removal signifies, "we don't want to remember him any more". In the good old days the media wouldn't have named or photographed the graveyard so there'd be only the gravediggers and parish register who'd have to worry about just another unmarked grave.
Likewise the trusts should have been quietly renamed and allowed to go on doing their good work.
I reckon if there was enough evidence to convict anyone it would have all blown up long ago so basically this is going to end up as an unpleasant and fruitless bit of work for some lawyers. I would like to see them take some people down but I doubt it.
I would like to see them take some people down but I doubt it.
Patience...
what another few decades?
Its pointless doing anythin to a corpse but we should learn from this and get those still alive
Keep him where he is and start selling hot dogs and ice cream. He's not bothering anyone anymore.
Tell that to the now women he raped, got pregnant, and abused for years. Allegedly.
his actions left a long lasting impression on a lot of people. I'd dig him up and burn the fricker
[quote=M6TTF ]I'd dig him up and burn the fricker
To what end?
what the actual **** are people thinking..!!?
It's just a big lump of smelly old meat in a hole in the ground
We could kill him again, but betterer, then bury him and dig him up again and kill him even better!
This country is a strange place at times, I blame the others...
M6TTF » I'd dig him up and burn the fricker
To what end?
Probably feet first
Yup, lets dig 'em all up, lets kill all them dead guys again, just to be sure.
Lets ignore all the women in refuges across the country, lets ignore all those kids in care, lets ignore all that hard-to-deal-with-stuff, lets dig up the dead guys and kill 'em all agin.
'Cos that'll solve lots...
well, I for one will not be able to sleep at night until his remains have been dug up, left to soak overnight in a marinade of balsamic vinegar, garlic, marjoram, cumin, parsley and thyme..
And then, then right, I want him coated in breadcrumbs and deep fried in leopard fat, and then served up to the queen for Christmas lunch..
It's the only way to compensate his victims, serve justice on his accomplices and keep our children safe..
Leopard fat... genuine LOL... 😀
Tell me, where you gonna get leopard fat from in this day and age, boy?
(don't say leopards!)
Since when did we do anything in this country that made sense? The only reason I could see for exhuming the body and moving it to a private location is out of respect to the victims and the other people buried there
Yes, because the other people buried there will probably be either really upset or dead.
I think, on balance that their current situation, in a graveyard, might give a us a clue as to their upsetness or deadness.
[quote=crikey ]Leopard fat... genuine LOL...
Tell me, where you gonna get leopard fat from in this day and age, boy?
(don't say leopards!)
They sell Tiger Bread in my supermarket but I'm not aware of any large feline predators at loose in the Pentland Hills.
The only reason I could see for exhuming the body and moving it to a private location is out of respect to the victims and the other people buried there
It's almost like you've read the BBC story.
Personally, I think we should dig him up, tie him by his ankles to the back of a horse, drag him round the streets, probably naked, bury him again, dig him up again, hang, draw and quarter him. Then bury him again, then dig him up, then put his head on a spike for a month, bury him, dig him up, burn him on a crucifix, then bury his ashes at the bottom of the Mariana trenh, then di..
The people visiting their loved ones however may not want to see vulgar graffiti everytime they visit to remember them it's not about the people having a rest there, but you knew that
Junkyard - Member
what another few decades?Its pointless doing anythin to a corpse but we should learn from this and get those still alive
Amen
Typical.
What about the horse?
Equine rights have been ignored, even ridden roughshod over for far too long in this country.
Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh.
Haven't seen the story actually - link?
yunki - Member
well, I for one will not be able to sleep at night until his remains have been dug up, left to soak overnight in a marinade of balsamic vinegar, garlic, marjoram, cumin, parsley and thyme..And then, then right, I want him coated in breadcrumbs and deep fried in leopard fat, and then served up to the queen for Christmas lunch..
It's the only way to compensate his victims, serve justice on his accomplices and keep our children safe..
You sleep-deprived again?
M6TTF » I'd dig him up and burn the fricker
I'm hoping that the word which begins with "b" there has 4 letters in and not 3.
[quote=crikey ]Typical.
What about the horse?
Equine rights have been ignored, even ridden roughshod over for far too long in this country.
Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh.
Why the long face?
😆
And then, then right, I want him coated in breadcrumbs and deep fried in leopard fat, and then served up to the queen for Christmas lunch..
Actually I quite like this bit, but don't think it's justice to just leave him to rest in the Queen. Can we [s]hang[/s], draw, [s]and quarter[/s] her then feed that to a pig. Bury the pig. DIg it up, crucify it, bury it ag...
Should Jimmy Savile's remains be exhumed?
Hell yes. Then we can make his corpse into a marionette.
Let's decapitate his head and display it over London Bridge!
Hooray for the Middle Ages, hooooray!
Well it's better than decapitating his getting I suppose
dig 'im up and sell 'im on ebay..


