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Someone has annoyed me. It's not cost me money (The reverse if anything) but it's cost me time and I bent over backwards to help them out and they pissed me about from, if not square one, then certainly square two. Then metaphorically slapped me in the face.
I was actually warned about this person in advance by a friend too, as they've also been pissed about by them, but it was too late by then.

This person might well read this thread (I hope they do actually)

I really want to let rip, I really do. And I might. But don't know if I should, if it's fair or not. And I'm a nice person, I'm not like that.

Bunch of arse.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:04 am
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yeah go for it - if only to entertain us on a Friday.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:06 am
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yes you should so we can all judge 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:06 am
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Do it!


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:06 am
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Have you considered telling the person in question instead?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:07 am
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Yep! Have aa good rant, & extra points for capitals, intelligible gibberish, **** etc!

EDIT:

Have you considered telling the person in question instead?

Come on, this is stw, no place for rational thinking such as that.


 
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Caps lock at the ready? Sweary filter avoidance mode engaged? Scattergun attitude to who's responsible, fired up? Pre-menstrual-feminist-style irrational, brooding, anger deployed? ... aaaaaaand............ [b]GO!!![/b]

@MarkMyRant.com


 
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Pre-menstrual-feminist-style irrational, brooding, anger deployed? ...

Oi! I resemble that remark!


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:12 am
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Have you considered telling the person in question instead?

Don't worry, I'm doing just that, there's no swear filter on Google Mail.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:12 am
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Well, it's been 6 minutes. Hurry up. My teas going cold and biscuits stale.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:12 am
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yeah marking the rant down already


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:17 am
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To have a pre-rant teaser like this, really does add a lot of pressure on the OP to deliver a nut crunchingly power ballad of a rant.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:19 am
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and since you were warned beforehand, surely its you that's the knob?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:19 am
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and since you were warned beforehand, surely its you that's the knob?

He was warned too late. So it's the guy that warned him that's the nob.

I think.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:20 am
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Thunderbirds voice >> " FIVE ...FOUR...THREE....TWO......"


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:23 am
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So it's the guy that warned him that's the nob.

Or the guy that didn;t read the OP properly 😀


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:23 am
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Is it Hora? 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:23 am
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I bet its vorlich.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:28 am
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OP, you're not a bricklayer are you? 😉


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:29 am
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Who is it?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:33 am
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OK.

I can't be bothered to find the links but if you look through my recent threads you'll see I've been selling a lot of kit for a friend. You'll also see I replied to a wanted ad for some £150 15mm wheels
I have a lovely pair of DT/XTR 15mm wheels for sale. £450 worth new. I dropped to £155.
Then I get an email from a mate whos seen my reply telling me to be careful and that this person has pissed him around in the past. Ever the optimist I carry on

Turns out he doesn't have £150
Wants to send me a deposit and pay the rest next week

WHY THE SMEG WOULD YOU PUT A WANTED AD IN FOR £150 WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE £150?

I stay calm. No worries
I get the deposit. I relax

Then today I get an email saying he cant afford the wheels because he's spent £900 on a frame

Say WHAT?

You don't HAVE £900!

I'm not making you buy my wheels, if you don't want them, just turn me down. Loads of people do that. I've done it. But don't waste my time.

Thing is. I'm honest. He'll get his money back. But I could smash things right now. Lots of things.

I would suggest not dealing with him. But do what you like, obviously


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:33 am
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Is it Hora?

Now what on earth would make you say a thing like that? 😉


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:37 am
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I think it all sounds totally reasonable; the guy just got his priorities right and you are clearly over-reacting.

*runs away and hides.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:38 am
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Ah. Yes. He did something similar to me over a frame. Seems like a nice enough chap, just a bit haphazard.
But hey, these things happen on classifieds. I didn't let it bother me at all.
I've kept the frame now and it'll be an ace (if slightly extravagant) spare bike.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:40 am
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http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/wtd-lightish-15mm-wheelset


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:40 am
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Isn't the whole point of giving you a deposit, that if they then renege on their end of the deal, then they can ****ing whistle for it if they then want it back?

Keep it. As recompense for your present blood pressure


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:40 am
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In my world a deposit is a payment to secure the item pending later payment in full. If you then decide not to proceed, you lose the deposit.

If they have history for this sort of thing, then maybe losing money as a result might be more effective than an internet flaming.


 
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You're giving him his money back? MENTAL
He paid a deposit.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:41 am
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I'm honest. I couldn't do that. I just can't.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:43 am
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He sold a frame for over £400 a week ago, so he must have some money. Keep the deposit!


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:44 am
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and then he'll do it again.

tell him you're witholding his payment as you're entitled to, but as you haven't lost from it either you'll be donating it to McMillan / BHF / Sarcoma...... instead?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:45 am
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If you put a deposit in anything and then change your mind, deposit is normally non refundable. Ok you're not a business, but tough titties.


 
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-Reads far to gramatically well Peter.
-Good use of an "of the moment" (new series innit) comedy rude word. -However it needs some random keyboard slamming like this:

'[ihmngvna;yeombjv6nhtspojgcf0-93

-I do like the idea of you simmering there comtemplating breaking stuff too. Don't break the wheels though. They are worth £450!

I think before passing judgement we really need to know what frame he spent £900 he didn't have on. If it is not really special then I reckon its a genuine "let rip". 😀


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:45 am
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Keep the deposit, or a %age of it.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:46 am
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I have fully ripped a strip off him via email though. You CANNOT keep pissing people around, ESPECIALLY on STW. Too many of us know each other.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:47 am
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I'm honest. I couldn't do that. I just can't.

Me neither. I think you're doing the right thing.


 
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Oooh CAPS, now it's getting good 🙂

Just need the culprit to step in now and it could go fully nuclear.

*Sips brew*


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:51 am
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to be fair to lodrik, it's a very nice frame.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:53 am
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Another public thrashing of an individual on STW.

Great.

Re: "I'm honest" is commendable (although honesty is not relevant) - you feel that on balance, he should get his deposit back, which is down to being honorable.

Now you've called him out by name, which is as far from honorable as I can think.

I think you're both even now.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:56 am
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To be fair to me, It's a flipping superb pair of wheels. There's £350 worth of hubs alone.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:57 am
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Now you've called him out by name, which is as far from honorable as I can think.

I don't give a rats ass

I think you're both even now.

So do I.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 8:58 am
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so no-one asked the obvious yet -

so what was the deposit, i'll buy em off you minus 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:00 am
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I'm honest. I couldn't do that. I just can't.

Fair enough if you don't want to profit from the situation, but that won't help him learn how to behave on the classifieds.

If the sale doesn't go through, give the deposit to [url= http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Home.aspx ]MacMillan[/url] *

* or insert good charity of your choice here


 
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CacklingFishwivesWorld.com


 
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Gutted..

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Posted : 19/10/2012 9:11 am
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[i]Now you've called him out by name, which is as far from honorable as I can think.[/i]

This is so far from my understanding it might as well be Swahili.


 
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It's a pair of wheels, I can't proceed with the purchase, get over it. The wheels weren't selling anyway so it's not like people were beating a path to your door....

Tbh doing this is a rats trick anyhow.

Bought and sold hundreds of things on here over the years, these things happen from time to time, don't give a seconds thought if someone has to pull out. Maybe that's because I'd class myself as a pretty honest guy, who certainly would feel bitter at someone for not buying an item off me.

So don't try and tarnish me as some fly by night charlatan. Hundreds of happy buyers and sellers off here and nearly 900 people on eBay would testify otherwise.

And Peterpoddy, if you really feel that aggrieved, you have my phone number....


 
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Posted : 19/10/2012 9:19 am
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Kettle on,choice of biscuits?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:19 am
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does seem a storm in a teacup to me.
Been mucked around by a few people on here, and probably done the same to one or two myself. I've never felt a need to get upset about it.

Nice of you to refund the deposit though, I'd do the same, unless it was a fiver or so.

Curious as to what frame Loddrik would lash out £900 on though, it's a bit over his normal price. 🙂


 
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It was a frame and forks, but Peterpoddy really has shown himself to be a bitter fool.

Apparently he has suggested that I don't offer to buy anything off him again.

That's actually pretty funny!


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:26 am
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What bike did you buy in the end Loddrik?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:29 am
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I'd donate the deposit to STW for providing the Classifieds Section.....


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:30 am
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Tracer


 
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I had a perfectly civil and sensible sale to loddrick if it helps.

I do agree though that putting a WTD that you can't actually pay for seems pretty silly.


 
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Nice! Enjoy.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:32 am
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I am after wheels, but just need cheaper ones for the time being.

Though with hindsight, I'm really glad I didn't buy these wheels. I'd hate to think what would've happened if I'd received the wheels and they were defective...


 
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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

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Posted : 19/10/2012 9:32 am
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Peterpoddy really has shown himself to be a bitter fool.

A bitter fool with your £60. don't forget.

Do you need that to pay for the frame? Or something else you're buying that you don't have the money for?

I'm gonna let you sweat for a while.

I suggest you shut up and back off if you wanna see it back in your bank account. I might change my mind, just like you did

Yes. That's a threat.


 
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So don't try and tarnish me as some fly by night charlatan. Hundreds of happy buyers and sellers off here and nearly 900 people on eBay would testify otherwise.

sounds like you're a trader?


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:33 am
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I said BACK OFF.

You know what I mean.

I'm now charging you £10 for every time you call me.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:38 am
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I suggest you shut up and back off if you wanna see it back in your bank account. I might change my mind, just like you did
Yes. That's a threat.

Answer your phone, and we can exchange threats....

And I'd suggest that keeping my money won't be wise, and you can ****ing take that how you want it.


 
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This thread won't last long now...

sounds like you're a trader?

Nicely placed question mark. He's not. And not sure why you'd ask the question?


 
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[quote=loddrik ]
And I'd suggest that keeping my money won't be wise,
I'm with the "non-refundable deposit" option.....


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:42 am
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ooh, i give it less than 10mins before "thread closed"


 
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loddrik ... you only have to pay 90 quid more, that sounds like a small percentage of recent monies spent by you.... cough up

PP.... Don't be a wally... it's cost you nowt except a little time... probably less time than it's taken to type your wierd semi-rant.

Can someone please smash thier heads together.


 
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I said BACK OFF.
You know what I mean.
I'm now charging you £10 for every time you call me.

You look like a complete tool now.

Sorry.


 
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900 sales on ebay and hundreds on here makes it sound like he is, the question mark is because i was asking a question.

asking the question because i thought traders weren't allowed on the classifieds, but then again i'm not a user of the classified so i'm unsure. figured its better to ask than assume!


 
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lol at peter poddy!

reminds me of a small angry dog


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:45 am
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As I've said over text, if he's happy to slag me off publicly, he should at least be man enough to do it straight to me.

I'm a reasonable chap.


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:45 am
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I'm not sure why you would pay a deposit for something then expect it back if you back down on the deal. Isn't that why we have deposits?


 
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[quote=MrGrim ]I'm not sure why you would pay a deposit for something then expect it back if you back down on the deal. Isn't that why we have deposits?
Exactly


 
Posted : 19/10/2012 9:46 am
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A deposit if to keep hold of something, its that simple.

Never ever ever would I even consider retaining a deposit of someone who was in the reverse situation, the mind boggles.

And then to use the retaining of said deposit as a way of getting said person to be quiet after attempting to publicly flame the person.

The actions of a seeming horrible person IMO.


 
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As I've said over text, if he's happy to slag me off publicly, he should at least be man enough to do it straight to me.
I'm a reasonable chap.

Agreed.

Pretty weak slagging you on a forum then refusing to answer his phone.

(And then to tell you, on a forum, to stop ringing him otherwise he's charging £10 every time he has to ignore his phone, well FFS that's just pathetic)


 
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I think you need to settle this like gentlemen...

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I reckon Pete should donate the £60 to a local charity.


 
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And anyway, if we're talking about deposit ethics, how about distance selling regs (which obviously don't really apply), and I've not even received the goods, but I'd suspect Peterpoddy might appear on watchdog at some point.


 
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