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Security of 10mm does concern me a bit. 16mm less so.
10mm is £250, 16mm is £380 though.
Polycarbonate sheet is flippin tough stuff (they make riot shields from it) - you'd need power tools to cut through it (if it's more than a few mm thick). You could always add a metal frame inside for added security.
I'm just getting some metal grilles made up for my Veluxes:
Custom made, will be white powdercoated. £30+VAT each:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8705023844/ ]Velux Grille[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
footflaps - this isn't the solid sheet we're talking about - it's this stuff:
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Hey! Got to here and the thread/shed's not finished! Still in progress??
Reading cos I've just had an offer accepted on a house - currently has a greenhouse and shed in the garden, which I plan to remove and replace with a nice, big workshop/shed... 2 months away from moving so must not get premature excitement! 🙂
I've let you down badly Dez. Really sorry. I'll try and pick up my game.
Truth is, I've still to decide on the roofing. Also busy with work.
Next job is to take my 5x2 pieces down to a local joiner for him to machine them into window surrounds and battens/beads. Then I can burn them!
🙂 Damn impressive so far.
I'll just be buying a whole shed I think. Where from will require advice from STW...
If you can fit a rectangular one and don't fancy a new hobby, I think buying one is a great idea 🙂
Did you decide on a roof ?
pretty much. Insulated metal, with full top-to-bottom rooflights in-between the panels.
Still trying to get sense out of actionclad so that we can be sure it wont be a wasted trip.
Any weekend updates?
It's gone awfully quiet ....
You can't get the tradesmen these days 🙂
My house purchase fell through, so no shed thread from me 🙁
Unlucky, happened to us a couple of years ago, found a much nicer one fairly quickly afterwards
Think the tradesmen are on strike 💡
My green roof is now on....
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It's a sedum and wildflower mix.
A bit of regular watering for a couple of weeks to get it established and it will look after itself 🙂
Just got to finish insulating and boarding the inside, and few other finishing off bits.
That's a nice looking abode there Mary. DIY or off-the-shelf? Will you be using it all year round given the insulation etc?
Am still looking for ideas and trying to figure out if the pros of using a chippie mate + materials (for an office build) are better than going OTS.
@Spacemonkey - Thanks :-). It's a diy creation. Was originally going to be a pergola type thing (christened the bus shelter), but the missis kept adding "wants", so it's morphed into a nice little garden room. I think the term is "scope creep"!
Got power in there, wifi signal is strong, so will be used as office, party HQ, post ride watering hole etc. Nice way of getting out of the house away from the telly even if the weather is crap.
Had a few beer sessions in there during the snow, couple of fan heaters, beer outside in 12" of the white stuff. It will be real cosy once it's insulated.
I am rather worried this shed has no roof yet,
WHAT'S HAPPENING, we need to know !
Sorry - it's so long since I posted that it didn't even appear on my list of updated threads 🙁
I'm hoping to order the roof today.
Metal - box section - drip stop lining - Olive Green - 4 pieces, alternating with GRP rooflights.
(I'll believe it when I've actually picked up the phone and ordered it)
On the other hand I've been nicely busy with work (self employed) and had a couple of great holidays! 🙂
Just read this from the start. Great thread - keep the updates coming Alex.
Cool, I am hoping to persuade the SO that I can do this, but .....
BTW - Mary Hinge - that looks fantastic. Really good.
My wife wanted a green roof, but it's actually quite an expensive route to take - would be around £550 in total for our roof.
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Ha - knew I couldn't trust myself to order the metal roof.
I have now ordered a box-section plastic roof in Opal (ish - it's recycled)
Hoping to achieve something like this:
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I've also been charring some larch for the window frames - now [b]that[/b] is fun (and great looking).
I've taken videos and photos, so I'll put something up (probably in a part 2 thread).
Ok. I feel inspired by this thread. MrsHora has told me this greenhouse HAS to go due to horaJnr being a crazy fella who wont mix well with glass.
So once its gone it leaves a lovely concrete base. What could I put in its place?
I have never built ANYTHING before but I can visualise sawing wood, nailing it and levelling with a spirit level etc.
What could I make thats simple?
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Hora, a log cabin style summer house is really quick and easy to build. Not logs but shaped planks that slot together. Not cheap, but as long as the base is level you don't even need a saw as everything is perfectly cut to size. Can be put up in two days.
Is there a part 2 to this thread yet? Charred larch sounds good.
Part two coming soon.
I thought I'd get slightly ahead of the thread for a change!
This sunny weather has been a great time for progress - especially when a roof is involved.
Hora - that's worth starting a thread of your own - you'll probably get more help as old threads tend not have as much life.
We're still following this one 🙂
I have never built ANYTHING before but I can visualise sawing wood, nailing it and levelling with a spirit level etc.
Just have a go, the whole thing will be a great learning experience and just accept that you're first construction is unlikely to be perfect!
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I have never built ANYTHING before but I can visualise sawing wood, nailing it and levelling with a spirit level etc.
Just have a go, the whole thing will be a great learning experience and just accept that you're first construction is unlikely to be perfect!
I had not done much more and I built this.... It's still standing quite a few years later 😀 .......A shed won't kill yeah 😀
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^^^want.
Don't you go coming into my thread with your large, complete and sturdy-looking fancy-ass structures! 🙂
Well, if you would finish your shed there would be no reason for people to taunt you with their erections ......
ok - I'll stick to this thread for now.
It took ages to choose a roof and save up for it, so while we were doing that, I started charring the larch for the window frames.
This was a really fun thing to do.
I used a hose to connect a torch to my patio gas bottle and everything went really smoothly.
Time will tell if it retains it's lustre, and whether it protects, but I'm really happy with how it looks.
(apologies about the photos - I've only been using the iPhone as selling my other cameras)
Video of some of the stages (best seen on youtube):
A couple of images of the frame on the shed.
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As you can see in the photo above, we eventually chose to keep as much natural light as possible by going for box-section polycarbonate.
It's a proper faff to install - especially with our non-rectangular build. Lots of processes for each sheet and fitting has to allow for expansion. It was boiling hot as we fitted it, so we allowed only a little (normally 3mm/m - we did 1.5mm/m)
I much prefer working with wood - everything with this seemed so critical!
It's a recycled product (from new offcuts) and a little cheaper than some.
http://www.cabp.co.uk/acatalog/16mm-Haze-Reform-Polycarbonate.html
Total cost for sheets, tape (to seal ends), glazing bars, sheet enclosure (goes around the perimeter), foam fillers to stick under the eaves between bars, etc was £360.
We bought the rest of the glazing and guttering at the same time to save a bit of money - whole lot was £440 (due to a £40 off £400 discount).
We worked from one end - calculated the overhang we wanted at the gutter end and worked our way across:
You have to tape the ends up - aluminium tape at the top end, vent tape at the gutter end. Sheets weren't all the same width which threw us on the rafter spacing.
I'll add noggings after.
This hot weather (after a wet spring) is warping all the timber so I had to buy a couple of replacements as these are fairly critical.
Rafters are the same 2x4 tanilised as the rest of the frame.
Just screwed up from under the top of the wall frame - 2 150mm screws per end.
Used a fine handsaw for cutting the polycarbonate - it's actually quote nice stuff to machine - not as splintery as I would have thought.
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Hmm, I was thinking about PC sheets for [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/how-much-for-timber-framed-extension-with-glazed-roof-panels ]my proposed 'indoor/outdoor extension'[/url] but wasn't sure if the quality/longevity would be up to the job.
What's your opinion of them so far AlexSimon?
And what timbers are you using? If our house purchase completes then this is defo something we want to add, but no way are we going to budget for full on oak and double glazing. More likely half decent timbers and PC.
These are just bog standard 2x4 studs.
If I were doing it proper, I'd have used 2x8 planed softwood probably.
I keep having to remind myself it's 'just a shed'.
But I'm kind of just playing and learning. I'm enjoying it.
Re: PC - I'm worried like you about longevity - there are a lot of nasty-looking ones I can see around our village - yellow and containing 'stuff' in the cells. Having said that, most of the bad looking ones have been here as long as I've lived here - so that's over 13 years.
Time will tell. I'm not sure I could bring myself to attach it permanently to a house. (on the other hand it's cheap compared to the other options).
BTW - this is 16mm. I wouldn't use less than 25mm for a house.
BTW2 - we're currently at £1600 and counting. Still to buy are interior fittings (including a bench) and various Osmo products for exterior and floor.
Oh and a door 🙁
I think I might hang around the tip for that 🙁
Cheers AS.
What's the light like in there? We'd like to let in as much as possible so any significant loss might make it a no go. We're not overlooked on that side from the street or any other property so we've no need to create a tint effect from the outside.
It's basically feels like all the light but none of the sun.
Hard to describe.
Obviously mine is an enclosed shed, so some drop-off in heat is welcome.
If your having an open side and not storing much in it, then perhaps clear will be better.
No idea if anyone's following this thread still, but I'll carry on regardless 🙂
Put the guttering on and a freecycled water butt. It's a large one, but I have a feeling that 15sqm of roof is going to quickly overwhelm it.
What am I supposed to do with overflow?
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Does my butt look big in this?
you need another pipe coming out the butt into a soakaway (hole in the ground filled with gravel).
I think it's considered a 'bad thing' to discharge rain water from extensions/sheds into a standard sewage pipe via an existing drain.
We're still following, so keep posting the updates.
Very impressed with your work. Looking forward to seeing it finished.
Nice build AlexSimon .
Waiting to see if I can get some recycled flooring ( old school classroom )to finish off my super shed .
On the Beeb site this morning.
I would really like a [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23036096 ]Woodland hut[/url]