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Considering that if your policy is to have a [i]referendum[/i] then every anti Liberal states categorically that Liberals would definitely take us into the Euro (ie totally misrepresents the policy) then its hardly surprising that it gets deemed not worth discussing.
What exactly is the objection to having a referendum?
Wow quite a few lib dems then. I am still swaying between them and labour, going to vote shortly.
Euro: I think Clegg said that economic conditions are all wrong ATM so not worth discussing. Fair enough
Lib dems 4 the first time !
Lib Dems - not much option here - Berwick Alan Beith
However he has had 30 yrs as an mp and still no dual carrigeway for the A1.
Lib Dem, here.
it would be interesting to hear from people voting lib dem whether they are first time voters, have always voted lib dem or have switched their allegiance from another party.
Yeah I doubt many are swapping from the Tories! Going to feel so sad if Dave gets in 🙁
ive voted lib dem since he iraq war as they were the only party to not be swept up in the bloodlust at the time
here are my reasons for not voting labservative......
voting tory seems crazy when we have essentially had a tory giovernment for the last 25 years, since nulab repositioned themselves to the right ......
deregulation of the banks, finance over manufacturing, privatisation of everything, house ownership and rocketing houseprices for all etc etc
only diffrenece is nulab spent more on public services and taxed the rich a bit more, oh and the fox hunting thing, FOI and minimum wage
so the tories will get into power now
slash public services, increase vat, cut family tax credits- stuff that affects the little guy most
they will raise money by selling off everything thats left, ie the NHS just like hanahan has promised his american paymasters and more importanatly Peter Gershon camerons advisor and chairman of the largest private healthcare company in the UK who stands to make billions from it all)- to be fair nulab were gonna do this anyway tho perhaps not to the same extent
the tories (like nulab) will do nothing to halt eu immigration; they cant, they dont want to as all their friends at the CBI want their farms factories and warehouses staffed by the lowest possible paid workers
they wont raise employers NI contributions, not yet anyway, as a favour to all the businessmen who donated to their campaign
and then they will hack up the bbc, sell bits off and reduce it to nothing
which of course is why rupert murdoch and the right-wing press are salivating over a cameron victory (murdoch will no longer have to start charging for the times website as he said he would in june (just after the election!)
only the lib dems offer anything slightly different
(also only they opposed both wars- the tories have a hard on for war worse than nulab)
I live in a Tory safe seat... by a massive majority (Tim Yeo)
Normally I spoil my ballot paper None of the above stylee, but its going to be Lib Dem this time.
Actually saw the pompous twunt out canvassing in my village this time. First time he has condescended to so so in the 27 years I've lived there, (my ward normally returns Liberal councillers) so obviously been told to get his fat blue backside into action or something. Worried?? Whaderyerekcon???
oh and yeah i think the lib dem vioters are all disgruntled labour so tories will probably do well out of it in the end
Euro: I think Clegg said that economic conditions are all wrong ATM so not worth discussing. Fair enough
You've still got to wonder why that speech was removed from the LibDems website though
Everything else is still there, just the bit about the Euro gone
oh and yeah i think the lib dem vioters are all disgruntled labour so tories will probably do well out of it in the end
most of the lib demmers where I am seem to be first time voters/people who have never given a crap about politics. I wonder whether we will be in for a surprise tomorrow?
Like I said, probably because it is so misrepresented.You've still got to wonder why that speech was removed from the LibDems website though
We wouldn't even be allowed in the Euro at the moment, and if we ever get healthy enough it could never be done without a referendum. Despite all of that, people will cheerfully claim that Liberals would ave us in the Euro.
Repeating myself as usual.
I always vote Lib Dem, BTW, in answer to query above. Voted Green in Euro elections because it has PR.
Lib Dem manifesto commitment could mean I'm out of a job so can't risk that. Plus wondering where our power is going to come from in 20+ years with their "no Nuclear power stations" thing, don't want to be (even more so) reliant on Russian gas pipes. That coupled with their local income tax and reduction of capital gains allowance from 10K - 1K per year means I'm hit hard in the pocket to boot. So no ta Cleggy 🙂
I fully intended on voting libdem but when it came down to it I couldn't do anything other than put a cross in the labour box. I've no rational explanation as to why, but old habits die hard I guess.
+ 1 for Lib Dems ... but then again thats the way I've voted for years now ....
Amusing Fb post from a mate below , as they left their pollingstation ..
***** is leaving the polling station by bike, complaining about getting wet on the way to work. The green part candidate says...."you should get a car, like the rest of us!" ROFL
"You've still got to wonder why that speech was removed from the LibDems website though"
Simple: it's a pipe dream at the moment and also not a popular policy. LibDems are happy to peddle several "unpopular" policies e.g. immigrant amnesty. But a row about the Euro right now really adds nothing and probably strengthens the Conservatives.
The LibDem policy on nuclear power annoys me. But I think they will come around before the lights start going out. Still voting for them today.
In the absence of anything preferable... tactical Lib Dem.
Tory 8)
My local tory is likely to win, last majority was 7000 however that dropped form 14000 the time before that.
Even if the Liberals don't win this time I hope to see his majority cut further then maybe next time the Liberals will win.
I'm in this for the long haul! As for the local taxes it's simple really all the parties are going to have to raise taxes and cut spending it's obvious.
3 months ago this was a two horse race now it's a 3 way split in 5 years I hope the lib dems will have built enough confidence that they will finally win a significant number of seats.
Tory 8)
Tactical Lib Dem. Newcastle, so the Tory candidate hasn't got a hope.
I was quite tempted to vote Tory because they have such a talentless shadow cabinet that I suspect they'd **** things up even worse than Labour have and never see power again in my lifetime. But then i'd have to sell my lifeblood and soul to the factories of despair and would never be able to look in a mirror again.
So I voted Labour instead.
EDIT: Love the way a couple of Tory voters have had to put shades on their smilies to hide their identities... 😉
Votaill Sinn Feinn
2 votes for lib dem from this household. One first time voter and one who hasn't voted for 12 years.
Lib dem. First voted that way (1997) as I never understood the two party system. Now, well, my original sentiments still stand really and the policies (now I actually look at them) strike a chord (Trident, tax threshold, bank breakup etc).
Conservative.
Lib Dems have policies made up to appeal to as many people as possible, rather than to actually make sense.
Pensions, power, immigration: their policies just don't add up. Shame really as their candidate would make a great MP.
Can't vote Labour in this area as they don't have a candidate. Probably wouldn't vote for them if they did though. Gordon is a one trick pony: if there's a problem, throw other people's money at it.
Another limp dem here......voting after abstaining for many many years
At least this is a pretty interesting election. The worrying thing is that six months ago it was inconceivable that Cameron could fail to win. Even if he scrapes in he's not exactly instilling anyone with confidence in his ability to lead: if he fails to prosper in security what's he going to be like in adversity?
This chap www.independentdemocrat.org
Lib Dem, I've voted Labour in the last 2 elections (wasn't old enough to vote before them). MrsMomo has also voted Lib Dem today as a first time voter.
Lib Dem. They're the only ones who seem to have noticed that the reason the economy is completely ****ed is due to the banks. And maybe, just maybe.... if it isn't too much of a radical idea.... maybe we should do something to ensure they don't do it again.
Its revolutionary stuff
BNP
Tactical vote for Lib Dems here in Malvern - in order to unseat the local Tory TW@s
And I'm also living in hope that this election could deliver something even more satisfying that 'The Portillo Moment'
Seeing Call-me-Dave face up to the reality tomorrow, that it isn't his birth-right after all. He still thinks it is. He needs a rude awakening! The smug smarmy ****!!!
Just kidding, voted labour really
Me and the wife, both first time voters at almost 30 years of age, and although I've always thought of myself as labour, swayed to lib dem ( both of us). Think the freedom bill was enough for me, pipedream that it is.
me and girlfriend voted lib dem, local income tax, it would be nice to have roads that weren't potholed to hell, and someone has to pay. Immigration, at least they are stating the reality unlike labour and conservative who would do the same but deny it at the same time. As for europe and the euro, the UK is a minor country on the edge of europe, with the strength of the BRIC countries, the US mainland europe, we have to make choices about the future and not sit on the fence. Nuclear power, it won't solve anything, it makes no money and there are many issues that get sidestepped.
and the one thing i don't want is a conservative government with an absolute majority, last thing we need is a repeat of thatcher.
Bill Cash-will-do-nicely is/was (please god) the self-serving tory twunt in my area. voted lib dem to hopefully give him a bloodynose if not a kick in the nuts. usually don't vote as i despise politicians.
JUst been to vote, So pleased to see queues of people and a good number of obvious first timers there. Object to tIe suggestion that voting lib dem is a politically naive vote. Labour are no longer a left wing party and lib have socially responsible ideas... imo.
agreed jojo
green here! dont think it'll make too much difference anything but bnp!
Another Green vote here...
Labour here.