A la Quebec/seperatist vote and the 100,000 Canadians who demonstrated to show they care?
I'd do it. If anyone knows of a march/etc going on. Egg throwers need not apply.
Scotland- anyone fancy going up and demonstrating/showing that we want them?
Nope.
That's the most sensible suggestion, maybe a bike ride up there.
Singing 'please don't go' all the way...
I wonder how many would join in?
I'm serious too- I'd do any day. Regardless of the semantics of who would be worse off I personally don't want a split. If anyone hears of any event(?) could you PSA??? 🙂
If they get independence we could build a huge holding facility for immigrants just like France have done. I hope they make a go for it as it will be even sweeter when they get the wooden spoon in the 6 nations . All in good jest
The political landscape of England would change for ever lots of labour voters will go.
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Who's this 'we' you speak of?
Moar Scotland posts!
*flies Saltire*
Can anyone play the flute? maybe take a big base drum with us?
'we'?
The patriotic ones, you know the ones who believe in Great Britain.
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Can anyone play the flute? maybe take a big base drum with us?
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I'm an Egg-Thrower!
(knocked out in round 2 at the Egg Throwing World Championships, but got through to the quarter finals at Egg Roulette) Yes, it is a real sport!
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Seriously though, I'd come.
The patriotic ones, you know the ones who believe in Great Britain.
I believe in Great Britain - I've looked at a map, and it's definitely there in the North Atlantic.
I think you mean the United Kingdom (political entity) not Great Britain (the island).
When I said 'nope', I think the point is that this is a decision for the scots to make.
'Interference' by Englishers is probably the last thing they want/need.
It is their decision - they can make it, and they can live by it.
The attitude of the 'no' campaign offering further concessions due to a swing in the opinion polls would actually piss me off more if I was a Scottish swing-voter on this issue.
"Oh, I see - only if it looks like you are going to lose do you attempt to bargain - well screw you, then".
Scots can make their own minds up - as long as they can stay off the booze long enough (with thanks to Prince Phillip for that one)!
'Interference' by [s]Englishers[/s] [i]people like [b]hora[/b][/i] is probably the last thing they want/need.
[quote=ninfan said]Can anyone play the flute? maybe take a big base drum with us?
well played
Chapeau
well played
Chapeau
Except for the spelling of [u]bass[/u] drum, of course.
-1 point for carelessness.
But would you walk 500 miles to show how much you care?
Oooh, it could just swing it for the Yes voters. Cameron, Milliband, Clegg and Hora. The perfect band of four. 😀
Feel free.
Over the past few weeks however, I'd say the realisation is dawning on a lot of people in Scotland (and elsewhere in the UK) that this referendum isn't really about nationhood as such - its more about our shared political landscape, how little ordinary people are involved in it, the pointlessness of selecting one of the two main parties every five years, and what political power in the UK is really about.
Its all very well feeling that we're great together (indeed, much of history would testify to this) but Scotland's voters are beginning to ask themselves to what end? Increasingly, this is not about Scottish interests alone, but about the interests of everyone outwith the very wealthy and politically influential, and the realisation that this minority is taking away for themselves what belongs to all of us, and making life tangibly worse for many of us, because our political system encourages them to do so.
In an ideal world, it wouldn't matter where on these islands you lived, we'd all be able to have this realisation and be in a position to seek to address it, but the last 30 years have shown this to be an impossibility with our political setup.
This referendum is a chance to ask questions of the status quo. Young, intelligent, pragmatic Scottish people are being politically engaged for the first time and the 'establishment' (for want of a better term) are now realising this and are becoming visibly desperate to halt it to serve their own interests. An election with a turnout of 75% could be a frightening prospect for those in power.
The prospect of real political change is becoming a possibility for the first time since Thatcher took office - Scottish independence is no longer looking like the endgame in itself any more.
But would you walk 500 miles to show how much you care?
There is a bunch of chancers flying up for an
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/09/cameron-clegg-miliband-emergency-visit-scotland ]Emergency vist[/url] 🙂
dannyh - MemberScotland- anyone fancy going up and demonstrating/showing that we want them?
Nope.
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Cameron, Milliband, Clegg and Hora
I'd vote for only one of those. I don't like waste, back-scratching or soundbites.
I would however employ the cheeky girls to be my personal 'bodyguard'.
dannyh - Member
When I said 'nope', I think the point is that this is a decision for the scots to make.
When I said Nope, I mean it 😛
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Just a thought, but if Scotland decide to stay in, can we in England have a referendum to leave the union?
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11084414/Saltire-to-fly-above-Downing-Street.html ]Too late, I think Cameron is surrendering.[/url]
Isn't it odd that, after a long campaign where the Yes side was supposed to be about emotion and Braveheart, it's the No side which starts desperately waving flags about?
Not for me. I want the scots to leave. Not because I dislike them (I'd wish them all the best, and mean it) but because I think the rUK will be better off in the long term. Yes it's selfish, but this whole thing is about selfism (it's [i]scotlands[/i] oil!) with plenty more to come. I reckon that the negotiations resulting from a no vote will be openly hostile. I don't care if they want to use the £, retain the monarchy or whatever. Their country, they can do what they like.
Devomax is the worst possible outcome for the (r)UK IMHO.
I do wonder if Cameron has deliberately thrown this. The tories don't like the scots, and could win more elections without them.
Christ on a bendybus! Has he invited the Krankies round for afternoon tea too?
You'd be better coming to Yorkshire Hora, we will be out of the UK shortly then the UK will be truly bust. Come on get over here and bribe us to stay, mines a pint of Landlord.
Apparently Nigel's coming with his wee ukip entourage. That's enough for me to make my mind up, thanks
Nigel and his growing support darn sarf are the biggest thing pushing me towards a yes.
Don't make me do it!
You'd be better coming to Yorkshire Hora, we will be out of the UK shortly then the UK will be truly bust. Come on get over here and bribe us to stay, mines a pint of Landlord.
Which part of Yorkshire? West Riding/Kirklees? The real heart of Yorkshire? Where I was born?
I'd fully support a separate Yorkshire. I'd even marry your daughters. Thus ensuring pure Yorkshire blood lad!
What flash grenades for an Independent Yorkshire?
^ A handful of shiny ten pence pieces?
The only reason any of the politicos are heading north is so they can look as if they tried if the yes vote comes in, or look like they made the decisive intervention to turn the tide if the no vote arrives.
None of them are concerned with anything more than appearances.
An election with a turnout of 75% could be a frightening prospect for those in power
No its the perfect opportunity for the politicians to demonstrate just how far from democratic the system is, to destroy the hopes and dreams and impetus of a generation as they swap Cameron for Salmond and nothing changes except for for Salmond, resulting in more apathy not less.
Apparently you can just stay down South and fly the Saltire:
If I were voting, anything Cameron/Cleggand Milliband were selling I'd reject out of hand, those idiots couldn't sell me a glass of water in the desert if I were dying of thirst.
But I wonder how the swing vote would feel if a bunch of us actually took the trouble to march up there asking them to stay, I think there are a lot of us that regardless of the politics genuinely think it would be a bad thing if only for entirely emotional reasons.
We've stood together, fought together for so long tolerated so much crap from the political idiots that love change for changes sake (and no doubt individual power and wealth)don't think a lot of the political hangers on, lawyers, lobbyists, consultants won't get rich with this if it goes ahead and in the end no more UK.
A ghastly thought, yes it would be worth a day of my time to protest from the pro UK perspective, English division, which so far as done the square root of didlly squat to prevent this disaster.
couldn't sell me a glass of water in the desert if I were dying of thirst
wow. could you be persuaded to purchase spectactles to treat your short sightedness?
We are not emigrating nor are we upping anchor and sailing further into the Atlantic. This is a referendum to decide whether or not we leave a political union. Regardless of the outcome of the vote we will still be in the same place, you will still be free to visit, the internet will work cross border, transport links will be maintained and telecommunications will still be possible. History is history, what's been done will not change.
If we came down in numbers before next general election and asked you to vote a certain way would you do it?
If we came down in numbers before next general election and asked you to vote a certain way would you do it?
No, you skirt-wearing savage. 😉
[i]The political landscape of England would change for ever lots of labour voters will go.[/i]
well....thats another bonus I hadn't considered! That and lighter evenings for outside beer drinking and sporting activities....its looking rosier by the minute! 🙂