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Perhaps if they were better paid, worked less hours, were given are little more responsibility and scope, and training and lived a little less in fear they’d teach a bit better.
That was my point earlier. Problem is that education is expensive and wealthier people live in areas with good schools, so paying higher taxes to improve schools for poor kids isn't popular among most taxpayers.
That's a realy sad state of affairs, hols2. Then the poor and wealthy alike moan about beggars, the unemployed (and unemployable), the lack of skilled workers, immigration (of well-educated Europeans). It seems to me that the first thing teachers need to do is to educate kids about the value of education and hope they remember when they get to voting age.
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It seems to me that the first thing teachers need to do is to educate kids about the value of education and hope they remember when they get to voting
Maybe it’s the first thing parents should do. Teachers should teach and not raise your kids lol.
Kick the bad kids out of school. Simple.
Send them to the army and learn a trade.
Some stupid rule can’t easily kick 1-2 bad kids out of a class and ruin the education of a whole class.
Perhaps if they were better paid, worked less hours, were given are little more responsibility and scope, and training and lived a little less in fear they’d teach a bit better.
There is scant evidence to support paying teachers more improves outcomes for kids. There is scant evidence that paying employees more in any area improves outcomes.
Well paying teachers a bit more might have stopped me, Madame and tens of thousands of the best finding greener grass elsewhere.
I find it bizarre that the very same people who justify top managers being paid millions with "companies need the best" are happy with paying teachers a pitance.
I visited the same German school five years running. A couple of teachers retired, one died of cancer and three new teachers were taken on. Oh, and there were a couple of maternity leave repalcements. In a typical UK secondary school 50% of teachers would have moved or left the profession in the same time.
Paying them more, combined with better resourced schools and reducing workload might stop teachers leaving the profession in huge numbers leaving behind huge teacher shortages and increased workload for those that stay.
Just a thought like.
I think you're the longest serving teacher on the forum a_a, still happy in the job?
At a quick glance, school funding in England has risen, in real-terms from 1990 to 2015, dramatically so during the Blair years. And yet teachers have been leaving the profession disillusioned since I was at school. Even after the current and previous round of cuts schools are still over two times better funded than they were when I was a pupil.
But the money hasn't gone to school resources of teacher saleries, it's gone into academy trusts paying huge saleries to academy bosses (privileged tories generally). It's gone inot paying contracts to businesses providing services to academies... .
https://www.tes.com/news/exclusive-top-earning-academy-bosses-revealed
Top selective quoting there, well done.
I clearly said that there needs to be some listening done too.
Thanks! For someone who was advocating listening, you seemed rather fond of shouty capitals.
I think you’re the longest serving teacher on the forum a_a, still happy in the job?
I still love teaching and have stepped away from management which has helped but the changes to GCSE science and available courses has meant I spend much of my time hammering square pegs into round holes which is no fun for them or me tbh.
At a quick glance, school funding in England has risen, in real-terms from 1990 to 2015,
And what has happened to A. pupil numbers and B. Since 2015?
Oh and according to a recent email from my union academy trusts are sitting on big enough surpluses to give every teacher a 5k rise. Authority schools have to give any surpluses back!
Common man, let the teachers do their job. Kids discipline is poor today. If you don't like it take her out of school and teach her at home yourself.