[Closed] Schneier on bike cheats

And yet people on here said a motor in a hub was impossible where I said that's where I'd put a motor.

[url= http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/36142963 ]A six-year ban[/url] is three times what she'd have got for doping.

And yet people on here said a motor in a hub was impossible where I said that's where I'd put a motor.

Keep up. It's 4 years for doping.

I thought the presumption was a motor + battery in the seat tube, with a worm drive to the crank shaft. Wiring to a nub is going to be a bit un-subtle, Shirley?

I thought the presumption was a motor + battery in the seat tube

As I recall the video shows a "glowing" downtube, not the hub. So he's wrong. I think!

No wiring at all, battery gel in the seat stays and dropouts as +ve/-ve terminals

i wouldn't say that a hub motor is impossible, but all the hub motors i've seen, have been... how best to say this? 'unsubtle'...?

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hardly a cheaters dream.

but the seat-tube kit, it's available, and you can't see it (without Predator style heat vision of course).

talking of heat vision, the images i've seen of the glowing hub, show it glowing with roughly the same intensity as the tyres, which are costing the rider a few watts at most? so, my sceptical guess is a draggy hub...

Either that or its a wheel that's just come out of the back of the car after a quick puncture/swap, so everything is warmish. The fact that the rider is passing a team car is another hint that this might be the issue.

Reading about various (and many) methods of mechanical doping on here and elsewhere, I can see why the penalty is tougher than for blood doping. The amount of work required to keep this under control if it takes off will be huge!

From the article liked at the top, I reckon the frame motor will find most customers in amateur cycling. Just because somebody is a cyclist doesn't mean they are honest and there are already rumours of riders doing local Strava segments on mopeds. I can well imagine the forty-something bloke who takes up road cycling, installs the motor and uses it discretely on those occasions when he's about to drop off the back or wants to win the sprint to the next lamp post.

I can well imagine the forty-something bloke who takes up road cycling, installs the motor and uses it discretely on those occasions when he's about to drop off the back or wants to win the sprint to the next lamp post.

I was having a chat with a guy in the black forest about a local bike builder who's very enthusiastic about these motors. He's 70-odd, wants to carry on riding centuries and long days, riding the same loops he's always ridden with the gang. So he gets some help from a motor. The other guys have more of an advantage being 30/40 years younger than he has with the motor. Hard to argue with that.

Does anyone remember the video of the cyclist on a shopping bike keeping up with a club run? hmmm