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Wilson had control of that ball and put it down so should have been Scrum 5 to Ireland (unless they've changed that)
Just nipped into the club house to get coffee, scotland making it easy for them so far!
Scrum 5, not a try.
Scotland have been pish so far.
“Don’t forget about England v Tonger!” FFS!
Yup
Just nipped into the club house to get coffee, scotland making it easy for them so far!
I can see why Tj watches from behind his sofa! Ireland are getting more than their fair share of the luck; but I think that’s due to Scotland’s sloppiness. Too many wee errors from Scotland and now they’re trying to force things. Maybe.
Too much ambition with too many mistakes, we need to calm down and build some phases.
Scotland heads went straight down after 10 mins. Very poor leadership again. I thought those days of going behind and then looking beaten were behind us! Buggeration.
Watson looks like a tourney ending injury as well. The toonbola strikes again - Brown the replacement hooker on at 7 ( he did start off life as a flanker)
Why does one team get all the luck? sometimes it works for you but right now scotland would lose a winning lottery ticket.
Time to build a pillow fort behind the sofa. I may be there some time
Wilson had control of that ball and put it down so should have been Scrum 5 to Ireland (unless they’ve changed that)
The irish player just got it to ground before wilson took the ball. Just.
Scotland look really poor this morning. Ireland look a different team to the one hosed at Twickenham. Hopefully Watson’s injury isn’t too bad.
Too much ambition with too many mistakes, we need to calm down and build some phases.
Agreed. It looks to me as if Ireland have had better warm up games and are starting well, whereas Scotland are feeling their way/ not up to speed. With Ireland being the stronger team, it’s not surprising they’re comfortably ahead. Scotland should get better over the next couple of games, to be ready for Japan. 1st or 2nd in the group doesn’t make much difference to Scotland imho.
A real shame about H Watson, he is an exciting player.
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The irish player just got it to ground before wilson took the ball. Just.>
I just hate Wayne Barnes
(How the hell do you use the quote thing!!)
I feel like this is going to be a very long second half.
With the rain now it’s a complete foregone conclusion. Ireland will close this out, doubt We will even get a try.
Why does one team get all the luck?
It's funny how when one team is totally pish the other team seems to have more "luck".
Incorrectly awarded try, or not, Scotland are getting thrashed fairly and squarely. They lack the power to bully Ireland.
This is not a good start to the day.
Well that's Pools A and B decided with just a bunch of meaningless games against the minnows to come.
Really? Japan will be feeling pretty confident today I reckon! Scotland have only got a 4 day turnaround before that game too.
At least Scotland will get a couple of games before they have to face Japan who will have targeted that game as THE one to win.
Ireland strangled them just like before and we didn’t have the power to get any control and reverted to trying too bloody hard because we couldn’t build phases well.
Ah well such is the life of a Scotland supporter, hope is a bastard
Japan will be licking their lips at that performance for sure. Best I have seen from Ireland for a while but poor from Scotland. The forwards especially looked uninterested until about 60 mins. Nothing Russell could do 'cos he didn't get much ball to play with and too many gaping holes in defense. 3rd try especially - no one covered the winger as Maitland had had to come inside to make a tackle. 9 or !5 should have been out on the wing
The fans will be after Townsend and I think he must take some of the blame. Scotland looked like they didn't think they could win. OK that second try came from bad luck ( pen not given, ball off the post leading to a 5 m scrum but there is no excuse for the team to look beaten after 10 mins. None. Somethings not right in the mental preparation.
Thompson and Graham showed they should have started
Scotland have only got a 4 day turnaround before that game too.
Yes - but the game before is russia so we should be able to rest guys
Bradbury to come in for Watson? ( he looks like he will not play again)
Pish.
The one saving grace is that it wasn't exactly unexpected. Unfortunately I didn't manage to extinguish all my hopes before kick off.
At least Scotland will get a couple of games before they have to face Japan who will have targeted that game as THE one to win.
I wonder how many injuries Scotland will get against Samoa?
It’s funny how when one team is totally pish the other team seems to have more “luck”.
Agreed. Scotland didn’t do any of the basics correctly. They couldn’t even work out that when you’ve made 20m down the pitch you don’t kick the ball into touch. And if you do, you need to compete at the line out, not stand there waiting for Ireland to give you the ball.
The single thing they did well was to charge down kicks, but that was because Ireland weren’t guarding the fringes in their normal way.
After the first quarter Ireland needed to do nothing more than run through their basic systems to win that game.
The loss wasn't unexpected but the nature of it was. Large steaming pile of mince
Japan will be licking their lips at that performance for sure. Best I have seen from Ireland for a while but poor from Scotland. The forwards especially looked uninterested until about 60 mins. Nothing Russell could do ‘cos he didn’t get much ball
- Scotland will (have to) get better, and the Japan v Scotland game continues to look key
- Russell got enough ball to say he had a poor game. He seems to pass to players who are only half expecting it and have almost no time on the ball
- Hogg must be good, everyone including Gatland rates him highly, but whilst he is fast and has a great boot, he jinks and runs straight into the defender. He’s nothing like Kolbe, which is how people talk of him imho
- just too many errors, if Scotland had scored when they were pressuring Ireland in the ~45th min then they might have come back, but Barclay fluffed it. It was wet, but was one of many key mistakes.
- Ireland (whilst good) were no better than their games against Wales as far as I could see, just that they capitalised on Scotland’s poor play
Well that’s Pools A and B decided
Come on, it's not guaranteed that Japan will beat Scotland.
Well that’s Pools A and B decided
Come on, it’s not guaranteed that Japan will beat Scotland.
😂
One point. I thought the refs were supposed to be keeping better control of offside - in just about every game so far players are constantly offside in the centres.
Scotland have only got a 4 day turnaround before that game too.
Yes – but the game before is russia so we should be able to rest guys
Russia will be licking their lips after today. Scotland should win, but not necessarily if they get ahead of themselves.
C’mon Tonga!
Russell may have had the ball but it was crap ball always without space - partly due to good irish play blitzing to cut off the moves but mainly because the forwards were not getting him on the front foot.
As an aside, what game do people think will provide the biggest score in the competition?
Nice to see that Farrell’s first involvement is with a shoulder charge to the face. 🙄
As a casual RU follower this is a great thread to follow, thanks and well done peeps.
In peril of losing all credibility with chips on shoulders though...
gauss1777
Member
C’mon Tonga!
Classy. 🙄
First of all Ireland deserved the win. As for Scotland Rory Lawson got it right on the radio commentary when asked how poor the Scotland performance was he said " Less than 2 out of 10 I don't have the vocabulary to describe it"
gauss1777
Member
C’mon Tonga!Classy. 🙄
Eh???
Just supporting the underdog.
Smashed him bro!
Ref failing to compute that Tonga have the stronger scrum
Tonga looked knackered after more than 3 phases!!!
Eh???
Just supporting the underdog.
ABE!!!!
Ref failing to compute that Tonga have the stronger scrum
Commentators also saying that Tonga collapsed. Couldn’t possibly be England in their minds. 😁
Eh???
Just supporting the underdog.
ABE
Are English fans getting a chip on their collective shoulders because Wales, Ireland and Scotland don’t all become English cheerleaders? 😂 (So many reasons for supporting teams -or not! - buts it’s always ABE in their minds.)
Eh???
Just supporting the underdog.
ABE!!!!
England are often the favourites, but should they play Ireland for example I’d support them : )
England fan doesnt realise its the british flag on his suit!!!
So world rugby want to get rid of offside and high tackles - appear not to have told this ref. Both of the England line crosses so far have had a Tongan headlock.
Just noticed England players have 2003 on their arms
He might be supporting all of the home nations?
#clutching@straws
Well done ref!!!
Yup - good call on the high tackle - worth a look as it was marginal but correct decision.
All previous winners have the RWC on their shirts....
All previous winners have the RWC on their shirts….
Ah, thanks - NZ will need long sleeves soon : )
So according to itv england not playing well was part of Jones master plan!!!
Is it Monye the co bullshiter, wonder if he's read the rulebook yet!!!
England will need to show a lot more to be contenders. on the evidence so far SA and NZ will eat them alive and they will be hard pushed to beat Ireland
Yeah the kiwis would put 20 plus points past that England performance. Very fragmented and sloppy passing but the forwards should get England to the quarter finals.
The NZ vs SA game yesterday was a completely different level of rugby, sublime.
Ireland may get a semi-final position but don't have enough to win it. Be interesting to see if the French can put a run together.
Handy bar has it. England were dire in the second half, and for all the bluster looked slower, tired and inaccurate. “Gelling together” my arse ITV, that lot have been playing together for a very long time in one form or another.
C- for me that.
Relatively poor by England today however it is still job done with a bonus point and hopefully no injuries. Plenty to work on before Thursday, let alone France and Argentina.
Could be worse though...could be Scottish registering the lowest score against Ireland in 50 years. When Scotland are on sing it’s very pretty but there doesn’t appear to be a plan B and they lack carriers to front up in those sort of games. Ireland will be pretty happy with this mornings work.
New Zealand / South Africa both look a chunk better than everyone else.
Eh? I think cricket is boring as sh*t. Different strokes for different folks.
What’s the point I. Rugby union? They don’t at any rugby? I’ve tried and tried but it’s a dreary tactical battle for the most penalties to win.
I’m a cricket man but try a lot of other sports but good heavens it’s just a media public schoolboy bore fest.
I’ve watched RL, a Shambles of a sport but it’s exciting to watch, shame the people that run it didn’t go to Eton so it got a bit more profile.
A bloke kicks a ball over the posts, the crowd goes wild! In league their fans go for a beer because it’s boring.
Edit : the poster admits to being a regular poster who got a second username to avoid revealing them self on an anxiety thread. Now is using the second username to be a dick.
watch the last 2 calcutta cup ( england / scotland) if you want to see what an exciting game of rugby looks like
Good to get a high scoring win but thought tonga might have played a bit more so england would be forced to play a bit more. The passing of the nz team was so much more fluid.
Hodge cited
Only just realised its the same ref who failed to see 1/2p get hit high and late by an Aussie that led to a pretty much season long concussion lay off
Watson out so Scotland's pinball attack and jackal defence has been depleted.
Watson heading home is a big loss for Scotland and a massive shame for him. He's a bloody good player.
Hodge cited
Only just realised its the same ref who failed to see 1/2p get hit high and late by an Aussie that led to a pretty much season long concussion lay off
Seems to have a blindspot for those 'fair' Aussie tackles.
Townsend
Calls for him to go are getting louder and he must carry responsibility for the poor performance
Wales now have to be utterly ruthless, score from solid phase play and not concede soft penalties.
And Hovis needs a new jacket that fits him.
I cannot believe after all the rugby I watched at the weekend, I’m at work for the Wales v Georgia game : (
The usual good luck to both teams and especially no injuries; now to hide from the World until I get home.
Scotland really were dogshit yesterday.
Hogg conceding a 5 metre scrum after the ball bouncing off the post when it should have gone dead summed up the game.
Ireland were excellent, they played Scotland perfectly, the blitz defense gave Russell no time on the ball and forced loads of errors as they flung it wide to try and create something from nothing.
I hate to say it but on the strength of the performance Japan will beat Scotland and they will have a hard time against Samoa
I cannot believe after all the rugby I watched at the weekend, I’m at work for the Wales v Georgia game : (
The usual good luck to both teams and especially no injuries; now to hide from the World until I get home.
Me too - the Sky Q app is proving very useful!
I imagine that I'll watch a lot of the not so interesting games just because...
That knock-on that wasn't - the commentators are saying they can't figure out how it wasn't a knock on. But it was a Welsh hand that knocked it towards the Welsh line so from their perspective it went backwards despite being forwards in respect to the direction of play.
What’s the point I. Rugby union? They don’t at any rugby? I’ve tried and tried but it’s a dreary tactical battle for the most penalties to win.
Hasn't been like that for 15 years. Sure, there are shit games in RU but so there are in any sport. I don't mind RL but it's all the same. Not enough variations in the action.
Since the 30th minute it’s hard to tell which team is tier 1!! The BP try was definitely offside - no wonder Biggar kicked it so quickly!!
First 20 for Wales was a point a minute and they looked very sharp!
I may have had it on the the background whilst teaching yr7, how was the first try unconverted wasnt it under the posts?
Bigger managed to hit the post!
Glad to get a win and the first 20 was everything you could hope for albeit with so abject Georgian defending.
Referring was a bit of a lottery on both sides. No idea how Davies didn’t get a card for his knock ons or the forward pass from Parkes plus offside from the kick that resulted in a Wales try was missed.
Really good to see Tips have a good game after being a bit quiet recently but we could do with a spare lock against Australia and Shingler looked really rusty still.
Most less good things were a symptom of sloppiness and having the game in the bag after 20 mins but I do hope the kicking out of hand and competing in the air improves before Aus- maybe it is a Jones-esque bluff to look so poor there 😂
Did we have any injuries? Is Owens ok?
Referring was a bit of a lottery on both sides. No idea how Davies didn’t get a card for his knock ons or the forward pass from Parkes plus offside from the kick that resulted in a Wales try was missed.
Because the first ‘knock-on’ was knocked backwards, and the second was a genuine attempt to catch the ball.
Equally, how the ref could avoid giving a penalty try for the collapsed maul, or why nobody reviewed North being taken off the ball with a knee to the chest.
My guess is that the refs have been told to be a little lenient on the lower tier nations, but still make sure the correct result occurs.
As an aside, what game do people think will provide the biggest score in the competition?
My guess would be NZ against Scotland in the quarters......
Anyone see this? Stunning. Looks like a video game.
Fair enough. Another ref could have been much less lenient on the second. The collapsed maul logic seemed to be it started so far out and moved so quickly that it wasn't a deliberate collapse but inevitable. Not sure that is in the maul laws but then I was a 9 so I know nowt. The North being steamrollered one was really odd! I'd love to see of gif of that again
Parkes has a bit of a bone fracture in his hand but they think he can pad that up.
“It shouldn’t be an issue for next week.
Oh... and please please please remove the pitch side microphone from the screaming woman (screaming anyone)!
The collapsed maul logic seemed to be it started so far out and moved so quickly that it wasn’t a deliberate collapse but inevitable.
No, he gave a yellow for a deliberate collapse on the line. He said that there were too many defenders to give a PT. Umm, yeah, that’s why they had to collapse the maul just before the line - they didn’t commit enough defenders to the maul. 🙄