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Forearm?
Well he started with the forearm and finished off with the shoulder.
Did the ref register that he was watching a slo-mo reply???
Probably the only thing that registered was that he needed to give Leinster stupid amounts of home advantage. It's written into the laws. 😆
It’s good to see Leinster strong in Europe again. Exeter attempting to be a bit “Glasgow” which is good to watch but ultimately doomed at the highest level.
Human Anatomy 101.
The forearm is below the elbow.
HTH.
He hit with the forearm, elbow and shoulder. All high too. The ref bottled it.
Naughty Healy. How that ref doesn’t red card him, I have no idea. Good comeback from Leinster but they’ve hardly beaten a top European side there.
Human Anatomy 101.
The forearm is below the elbow.
HTH.
Whatever 😆
wrecker - MemberHe hit with the forearm, elbow and shoulder. All high too. The ref bottled it.
Presumably he will be cited then? Like Turner?
I'm looking forward to Clermont / Sarries this afternoon. Its a "must win" for Sarries really. Been some good games so far and a bit of controversy. what we want from the Euro cup 🙂
DanW - Member"No force, no speed, yellow card."
I can see why the ref thought that and its part of the criteria they have to use when judging yellow or red. Because he didn't go charging in to the ruck it was more of a push than a hit.
I think Healy should have been given an option:
1) a red card
2) a yellow and to be kicked/punched/kneed in the head by Cowan-Dickie, with the same amount of force and speed. 🙂
Cipriani is having a hell of a game for Wasps so far. He really is great to watch when attacking.
Jesus Sale v Cardiff....Sale have Sam James a centre at ten, Denny Solomona a league convert winger with a fear of tackling at 13 and Odoguwu a 7's player on one wing and Charnley another league convert on the other!!! Promises to be an awful game!
Sam Warburton on the pitch at half time, blowing a gale, raining sideways, he's on crutches, smile on his face high fiving loads of young kids. He does come across as a bloody good guy.
Sarries came out of the blocks in the first half bloody quickly but Clermont were on top by the end of the half. Big second half needed from Sarries.
Saints are as shit as everyone thinks they are.
Good result for Wasps.
Clermont’s big runners are causing Sarries issues now. Sarries are missing the bosh from Billy and Barritt.
Penalties are costing Sarries.
Sarries scrum is getting annihilated this half.
Dank Hole clearly didn't really want to play tonight. 5 penalties and a yellow from him in the first half!
Munster just watching Leicester self destruct now.
Good win for the Ospreys but Saints have pushed the self destruct button
Tigers hate a late cheap shot, don't they?
Munster do the double over Leicester. I’ll never tire of that. Well down to Bath and Wasps for getting a couple of English wins this weekend.
Hibbard to Dregs
Gatland to Sinners
As someone said in the comments- hell of a good contract negotiation to get a 3 year deal at 34!
Sorry to break it to you dan but I think Gatland might be a little older than 34 😉
Surprised that Hibbard has managed to get a three year deal at 34. Fair play to him. He’s never been less than committed and was a good signing for Gloucester.
Things at the Saints sound pretty low according to Foden with players pointing the finger at each other for errors. Not a fan of the way Mallinder was got rid of part way through the season. Personally it would have been better to tell him that it was it, in May you’re out whilst they look for a new coaching team. West needs to go if the rumours are true about his reaction when Matfield offered to help with the line out.
What rumours are those? Genuine interest as when Richard Cockerill said he wasn’t happy with Saints (can’t recall why) West offered to meet him in the car park for a fight. Prize tosser!
Manu, Healy and Lees have all been cited.
Would be bad for Manu to finally come back only to be banned.
https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/943073958932418560
This is the tackle Manu's been cited for. Little high but they'll be playing 5 a side if they start banning for that!
It's difficult to call when it's slowed down - I'd have to watch it in real time. The tackled player's head is forced back which suggests it was worth citing..
Looks worth a ban tbh, not as long as Healy will get though. That was cowardly as well.
It looked like fairly clear head contact with the left arm down by his side on contact- he knew exactly what he was doing. Stupid in this day of replays and especially with all the focus on contact with the head but one of those normal incidents that almost everyone tries to get away with if they can (not me as a tiny 9 I'll point out!)
https://www.ruck.co.uk/manu-tuilagi-cited-dangerous-tackle-munster-flanker/
Real time here. Still can't see an issue with myself.
This was posted on the Tigers forum, but i've no idea where it came from...
Brian O'Driscoll: "I think the game has gone soft if we’re picking up on marginal collisions like the Manu Tuilagi tackle he’s been cited for."
It's difficult to call
No it isnt. Shoulder to head with force red card. Simples. Its not awful but it is a red. No mitigating circumstances like player dipping etc. 1 or 2 match ban. Move along. Next.
I don't know what is funnier in that particular linked clip... watching May kick ahead when running at full tilt with the grace of a giraffe or Tuilagi giving his 9 a dig in the ribs for no apparent reason 😆 His missile tackle on the last man on the ground was another gem of his. I've only seen highlights but I guess he was a touch over-keen on his return
Daly, Hughes and Te'o could miss the start of the 6N.
Given Daly's form at the mo that could be a blow.
Te'o could miss the start of the 6N.
Who are Ireland playing first?
Turns out not to be a ban for Tuilagi. Just as well, we’re close to playing touch rugby here!
For Leicester fans it feels a bit raw as our best back, Viano (sp?) had his jaw broken by a reckless tackle from a Munster winger the weekend before. He wasn’t even penalised as he knocked himself out in the process.
Just seems the citing and video ref system needs a bloody good sort out.
The tackle was deemed wreckless, but not worthy of a red card, only a yellow.
So, it appears the citing system has worked. Matt O'Connor is not covering himself in glory these few weeks, nor is Brian O'Driscoll or any of the "rugby's gone soft" brigade. All they do is demonstrate a lack of understanding of how citing works, and the changes to the laws regarding contact with the head...which only happened in 2017.
It's not the citing system that needs a good sorting out (and yes, there are inconsistencies). Matt O'Connor needs to wind his neck in a little and stop whinging and concentrate on why he's had his arse handed to him on a plate two weeks in a row. The stark differences between (Geordan) Murphy's in-game interview and Flannery's showed a little of why Leicester are underperforming in Europe. Stop whinging about refs and everybody else and sort your own game out. Munster aren't even that strong an outfit these days.
Is it time for the English clubs to call for a new European competition again?
Looked an obvious shoulder to the head to me all the ****ing about and fudging and this weeks memo to refs is something that really ****ing boils my piss. Looked as bad as the one Filise got a red for for example
Ickle Jonny signs two year deal for Glasgow
It’s seems to me that the AP seems to play a different interpretation of the rules compared to P12 - and the teams just can’t react to it on the pitch.
It is hard when you’re getting pinged off the park for offences that we’re dine for the other team to do 7 days earlier but you’ve got to adapt - that’s a coaching issue.
There’s no way Matt Oconner is a decent coach, he was pants for Leicester but held together by cockers, pants for Leinster (most fans believe they succeeded for 1 more season despite him, not because of him) and now he’ll be pants for Leicester again.
Now I look at Sarries to see if they are also struggling to adapt, they are a bloody good team although like most, missing a few top players and they also seem to be. That means something’s amiss.
Oh and inconsistencies in the citing? Yep, that’d be right!
3 weeks off for Healy.
tinybits. I think its more about attitudes than actual differences in reffing. English teams seem to think the new laws mean no ruck turnovers and don't play for them. Pro 14 clubs have figured it different and still play for the turnovers - now its a rapier not a bludgeon
LIfe as an Edinburgh fan. why oh why!
[quote="Richard Cockerill"]"That will haunt me forever," he says. "Probably one of the worst experiences of my coaching career. Just horrific.
It was mid-September at Myreside and Benetton were in town. The stadium was cold and sparsely attended, a different stratosphere to the glamour of Toulon where he had just come from and the intensity of Leicester where he had spent more than 20 years of his career.This was grey and low-key, but at least the points on the board offered Cockerill some colour. His team led 14-0 after 25 minutes against a side that had now conceded 11 tries in two-and-a-quarter games of PRO14 rugby
Then, predictably and spectacularly, Edinburgh threw up all over themselves. A 14-0 advantage became a 20-17 defeat. In the aftermath, Cockerill had a bloodcurdling demeanour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/42429293
A funny read. I am glad he took the job on but I think he is mad
TJ - he comes across pretty well in that article. Wonder if he'll be able to ingrain some backbone in Edinburgh? If he sticks around long enough he may well have a positive impact on them.
He is the right man for the job and by far the best we could have hoped for. the signs are good so far with Edinburgh showing a bit more guts./