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Ickle Jonny career tackle stats
Career tackles,

Pro 12/14. Made 655 missed 11
Champions cup. Made 264 missed 8
6N. Made 217 missed 5
RWC. Made 67 missed 2
Other Int matches. Made 200 missed 4

Totals made 1403 and missed 30.


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 10:04 am
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Growling a lot works to a certain extent in the rugby RC played but he isn't a great coach IMO. Coming in without a winning structure pre-made for him will be a real test. That said I do like some of his straight talking in the article


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 10:32 am
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Ha! Happy Christmas TJ! That’s what happens when you’re opponents go to sleep for the last play of the game!


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 8:06 pm
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Ickle Jonny career tackle stats

ERC Cup Winners Medals?
6N Winners Medals?
Grand Slams?
Triple Crowns?


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 8:12 pm
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Ah, now that’s not fair DD, Scottish players are the bestest, and not winning trophies in no way diminishes how good they are!


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 9:39 pm
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BUT...BUT...STATISTICS!


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 9:44 pm
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Tipuric hasnt missed a tackle in 240 000 years. Fact.


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 10:09 pm
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Ulster getting battered in Galway


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 10:13 pm
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😯

Has someone put a space warp / altered reality along the M8? 14 man Edinburgh bBeat Glasgow with the last play of the game? Shome mishtake shurly


 
Posted : 23/12/2017 11:10 pm
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1/2p has missed first 4 kicks at goal. Wonder when that happened last!!!


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 6:57 pm
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We seem to say it every week but the way the ball in the air is played in the laws is just daft. He who jumps highest shall escape punishment however reckless. Can't fault the ref and he didn't have much choice under the laws


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 7:50 pm
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He who jumps highest shall escape punishment however reckless.

Not sure I understand your point are you saying jumping for the ball is reckless?
Besides Evans didnt get off the ground he just ran into Johns legs.


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 7:58 pm
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Davies also doing a good job of showing why Webb will be sorely missed for Wales. Frustrating to watch


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 7:58 pm
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*comment out of frustration more than anything 😳

In general though there does seem to be a lot of these types of sendings off lately which is correct under the laws but means that so long as you jump highest you will always be protected. Other sports are more balanced and common sense in the laws and the catcher doesn't generally jump in so wildly and going for the ball in the air is a normal everyday thing rather than frequent game changer


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 8:11 pm
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Davies also doing a good job of showing why Webb

Meanwhile Webb has knocked on more times than he's caught the ball!!

the laws but means that so long as you jump highest you will always be protected

Thats not correct. You can get out jumped but as long as you go for the ball its fine.


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 8:29 pm
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Anyway, shit game and Ospreys were shittier and lost


 
Posted : 26/12/2017 8:30 pm
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Bath fined £60k for releasing Faletau outside of the window and France have sacked Noves, so I guess their 6N will be awful. Brunel taking over and to be supported by six other coaches; that's a big old team. This doesn't solve the apparent problem of lack of fitness and too many superstars on their last contract.


 
Posted : 27/12/2017 10:50 pm
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The French issue is lack of preparation time with the squads, they have more than enough talent.


 
Posted : 28/12/2017 9:43 am
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Simon Berghan gets six weeks for gently moving some oiks head out of the way with his boot. Sounds about right - warra numpty. I was at the game and we all saw the replay and no one complained the red card

We are going to start the next 6 nations missing a few props. We're doomed1


 
Posted : 29/12/2017 11:10 pm
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Josh Adams keeps scoring tries. Any Worcester watchers rate him? My sauces say he's welsh.


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 6:52 pm
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Yep, Welsh and scoring tries left, right and centre. Fast. Very fast.


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:02 pm
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Yep, Welsh and scoring tries left, right and centre. Fast. Very fast.

Great. Stick him in the Wales squad.


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:13 pm
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On current form, I'd want Aled Brew in there ahead of him!


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:14 pm
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Yep, Welsh

Like yourself then.


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:17 pm
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16 minutes?

You're losing your edge, DaiDarcy! 😆


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:22 pm
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On current form, I'd want Aled Brew in there ahead of him!

No chance of him being picked. Just extended his contract at Bath hasnt he?


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:26 pm
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Sadly yes, AA. He's playing like a man possessed right now. Reborn.


 
Posted : 30/12/2017 8:27 pm
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Josh Adams keeps scoring tries. Any Worcester watchers rate him? My sauces say he's welsh.

He's in very good form at the mo and is ful of confidence. He's currently the top try scorer in the AP. I doubt he'll hang around at Worcs long though because bigger clubs will be sniffing around soon enough.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:33 am
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Posted : 31/12/2017 2:01 pm
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Saints are woefully bad. The only player who should get near an England shirt is lawes. The remainder are playing like crap. I don't dislike the club, but I don't feel sorry for them at all. They have failed to invest and recruit then sack mallinder when they don't perform. And they took a couple of our lads. So **** em.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 6:53 pm
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At half time a try bonus wasn’t looking likely for Exeter - 4 tries second half into the wind though! Woodburn is a beast & should be in the England squad.


 
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Saints are woefully bad. The only player who should get near an England shirt is lawes. The remainder are playing like crap. I don't dislike the club, but I don't feel sorry for them at all. They have failed to invest and recruit then sack mallinder when they don't perform. And they took a couple of our lads. So **** em.

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Not much different to Tigers (who I support for my sins). They never even looked like scoring a try today. I know Veanu is a big miss, but even so......


 
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Oh yeh you guys took genge from us. Up yours too! 😉


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 9:18 pm
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So Saints and Tigers coaches reckon they can finish top four / compete for trophies... I'd love a bit of what they've been drinking! Saints in particular will need a huge turnaround to get near the top four....they're only three points above Worcester.

Interesting to see that Jones is still backing Hartley despite him not being as good as George and being outgunned by the likes of Cowan-Dickie. Shame that Robson isn't being given a shot at scrum half either.


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 7:39 am
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Jones cannot be that short of leaders on the pitch that Hartley still gets a game. As saints fortunes have warned his true thuggish moaning nature has shown itself.


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:47 am
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Itoje should be captain. Almost nailed on for a place, and has experience of captaincy from the U20s. Would help build a squad for the longer term, next RWC. The continued selection of Hartley is baffling!


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:49 am
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I was surprised to see Brand H included in the training squad - he's not been that great for Wasps this season and isn't one for the future. Would have been nice to see teh young Wasps flanker Willis get a call up, even as an apprentice.

Hartley did really well when Jones took over, but I can't help thinking that he needs moving on.

It'll be interesting to see how this 6N goes and how Jones deals with things not going his way beause I think this year will be much harder (Ireland look well drilled, clinical and very hard to beat, Scotland are in a really good place etc).


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:17 am
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Itoje should be captain. Almost nailed on for a place, and has experience of captaincy from the U20s. Would help build a squad for the longer term, next RWC. The continued selection of Hartley is baffling!

I have it on pretty good authority that Jones doesn't consider Itoje captain material, obviously inspirational player but not someone who is seen as a leader in the squad, bit of a hysterical ranter supposedly. The continued selection of Hartley is the other side of the same coin, Jones says in a squad devoid of natural leaders he is the best he has. This second bit is consistent with his public comments on Hartley.

Obviously if he ever played as poorly for England as his recent performances for Saints, Churchellian powers of leadership wouldn't be enough to save his place


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 11:13 am
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England as a team of nice boys didn't work so well last time around so I can only thing EJ wants a few angry faces in the side. I can't see any other appeal for him


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 11:16 am
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bit of a hysterical ranter supposedly.

I think thats overstated - from what I've seen and heard of, speaking with authority to a group of players doesn't come naturally to him, so nervousness and a raise in pitch occurs, hence the label you've applied. That may disappear with maturity, it may not, but currently as you say he's a doer not a vocal leader.

Whats wrong with Farrell? He spoke up quite a lot in the Lions behind-the-scenes, a bit impetuous maybe? I also think that leads to Haskells selection - Haskell for all his faults is a good communicator and intelligent understand of the rules, and is prone to showing the way forward in flashes. I can see his next job will be as a pundit, but for now, he backs up Hartley?


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 11:22 am
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The Prem is looking really interesting. Some 'bigger' teams not as high as they want to be, some surprise high fliers and The Chiefs are looking pretty damn awesome which is fine by me!
What a second half to get the 5 points.
Really interesting year as far as I am concerned.


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 11:26 am
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Dai Young has signed a new long term contract with Wasps which is good to hear. He's done good things with them but I guess there's unfinished business.


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 2:01 pm
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Looking good for Wales
No
North
Loopy Liam
Amos
Davies
Faletau
Warburton
Moriarty
Ball
Lee

And maybe some others


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 2:32 pm
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Jesus. That's a hell of an injury list.

Will Gatlands law go out of the window with guys like Young and Adams getting a look in?


 
Posted : 04/01/2018 3:59 pm
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Is Jones playing way to smart with players? Graham and Velacott could both play for Scotland, Graham especially is in a position where, although he is undoubtedly talented, he's not streets ahead of the likes of armand who can't get in for love nor money. But if he gets tied to England then he can't be a rising Scotland star.


 
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