Where is the best place to see extended highlights or a full replay? The other games have been up pretty quickly on YouTube.
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Jaco Peyper is having a terrible day so far.
He's been reading the news, and the Lions have suffered because of it.
House!That must have been it then. Different ref next week; thumping win for the Lions.
You really make yourself look stupid here. Not anywhere did I say imply or link that comment to the Lions loss. It was just a fact I added to the conversation, so stop trying to make it something it isn't.
To get back to common sense, we lost because the AB's are better, there's not a lot more to it than that.
The problem is that if you swap the front row then you run a risk of losing that platform
True but theres no point having a platform if you cant play off it.....
The other games have been up pretty quickly on YouTube.
There's your answer.....
Best commentary bit of the day from Australia/Italy:
"And the Italians say - you little beauty, Benvenuti!"
Who got done over the following week
Canada
Why was POM taken off?
Why was POM taken off?
Wasnt having much impact on the deck and in the loose, I guess they thought Warbs would be with a go. He certainly didnt do anything wrong.
Still we scored the best try so in usual welsh fashion I'm claiming the moral victory.
I missed the match as I'm away with work. That SOB try is awesome!
To win the test we needed to be error free and take our chances. Sounds like we weren't and didn't.
*shudders* I agree with Jambalaya.*I feel dirty!
Same here!
The errors and substitutions were because the guys were run off their feet! The AB's may not look super flash [i]all[/i] the time but it was non stop control and pressure from them. Running inside shoulders, drawing and passing, slipping the ball out to a supporting runner in the tackle... the Lions were playing catch up and kept guessing all the time.
There was a lot of talk about needing to score tries but before all of that you need territory and control. It would be interesting to see the second row, back row and 9/ 10 for the next Test.
Davies was I reckon the only Lion that can say they outplayed their opposite number and maybe Watson who is class. Teo went toe to toe with SBW but the latters touch of class edges it. SOB was very good but Cane better. Faletau quiet but the Lions had no ball, I expect his tackles stats are stratospheric. Liam made one big error that led to a try.
More dynamism needed. Itoje for AWJ and Sinkler for Furlong. Warbs for POM would be a big call but POM didnt do much to slow the All Blacks juggernaut but is he playing well enough. I'd like to see Faz given more responsibility to kick for territory as Murray controlled things not sure I'd start Webb though.
Agree with most of that.
Not sure about Sinkler starting but you would hope he could see more of the game than today. Could POM, Warbs and Faletau work? Solid but blunted going forwards without O'Brien I guess? Murray gives an excellent escape option and controls well but I think needs Sexton next to him to keep the defence on their toes. Besides a few lines from JD2 we didn't seem to offer anything other than boshing. I'm not convinced Murray/ Farrell is a good balance with what they each offer and realistically I think Farrell was chosen for his goal kicking today with 1/2p swapped out for a more adventurous back 3... I still think Sexton is the way to go at 10.
This says it all lions had to work their arses off to come second!!!
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I must say, a long hard tour at the end of a long hard season..... You only need to be 2% off your best in rugby to get very exposed. A fit and well drilled Lions squad, together for a long period, could live with the ABs for the full 80. Sadly we don't have that.
TJ - what happened in the Fiji game? Not seen the match, just the result. Was it a big step backwards for a "near full strength" Scotland, or just one of those days?
The AB's may not look super flash all the time but it was non stop control and pressure from them.
What @Dan says. Exactly like the England RWC winning side in 2002 and 2003.
I didn't realise they won it to 2002 as well 😉
Was it a big step backwards for a "near full strength" Scotland, or just one of those days?
Not full strength as they are were missing the like of Hogg and Russell.
From what I've read, the offloading game caused them a lot of issues (masters of their own downfall) but Fiji were very physical and actually kicked their goals!
Judging by the piccy in aa's last post - it was the Mysterons (other extra-terrestrial beings may or may not be available) wot beat us !
TJ - what happened in the Fiji game? Not seen the match, just the result. Was it a big step backwards for a "near full strength" Scotland, or just one of those days?
Toonie mixed up the squad a little and it didnt work. A fair few players missing and it showed. Game control was poor, should of kicked early points and we were awful at the restart. I think Fiji scored right after most restarts in the 2nd half.
End of the day, we should of learned a lot from that, what we did well, what we didnt and who isnt up to the job.
Lawes back for Tuesday. Nowell is named at FB which I'm not sure about; he's up against some quick boys and I'm not sure he's got the pace to be the last line of defence and let's face it he's been caught out a few times so far defensively.
The new call ups are picked en masses again as bench cover.
Lions team for Hurricanes:
Jack Nowell, Tommy Seymour, Jonathan Joseph, Robbie Henshaw, George North, Dan Biggar, Greig Laidlaw, CJ Stander, Justin Tipuric, James Haskell, Courtney Lawes, Iain Henderson, Dan Cole, Rory Best (captain), Joe Marler.
Replacements: Kristian Dacey, Alan Dell, Tomas Francis, Cory Hill, George Kruis, Gareth Davies, Finn Russell, Jared Payne.
Wonder if we will see Lawes come off early to be added to the test 23?
Hurricanes have Savea, Milner Scudder and Jordie Barrett back three!!
Not anywhere did I say imply or link that comment to the Lions loss. It was just a fact I added to the conversation, so stop trying to make it something it isn't
Care the explain what a post on the ref reading the papers and the Lions suffering because of it actually means then? You make more sense when you post drunken rants.
Anyway; for the non-puddingphobics.
Lions tried to play rugby this week; very ungatlandball. Back to what he knows best next week and potentially a bigger thrashing; or stick with trying to play rugby and go down swinging? Does anybody think trying to keep it tight and strangle the life out of NZ will actually work in the Lions favour? NZ had scrum parity against our beefiest front five,where the Lions were meant to have the upper hand.
and I'm not sure he's got the pace to be the last line of defence
If he's not got the pace for 15 then he'll be as much use as tits on a snake on the wing and he's not he's a good player, he'll be fine.
Lions tried to play rugby this week; very ungatlandball.
Whilst the all blacks played Gatland ball ++ dominating the gainline.
Agreed;so much for their newly repaired back row being rusty! However the speed in which the AB's use turnover ball is frightening. Still interested to see what the Lions test team looks like when announced on Wed (?) Doesn't matter though; there aren't the players in the squad to turn the series around. As any Scotland fan will tell you "Ye can only pish wi the cock ye hiv." Garland has limited options and all reduce the side in other ways.
[i]Hurricanes have Savea, Milner Scudder and Jordie Barrett back three!![/i]
Looking forward to this one - be closer than it would've been if they'd had their 9 & 10.. Lions to get their last win on the tour..? 🙂
Agreed;so much for their newly repaired back row being rusty!
The ball skills of their pack to offload before or during contact and their running angles to hit the line at space are light years ahead of what we can muster.
Caution to the wind time; Lawes and Itoge and wee angry Quims prop in, oh; and also Sam. Sexton at 10 as only change in the backs.
I think Sam has to start at 6 and be tasked with the same job he was v england in the 6 nations, tackle hard and stop them on the gainline, as should Itoje and Kruis needs a kick up the arse and Lawes to bench. Not sure Marler is the answer as Vunipola carries harder. I'd keep the backs the same but with orders to kick for territory and touch rather than box kick all day. The backs deserve a chance to get the ball and see what they can do.
If North plays a stormer on tuesday he comes onto the bench.
Sadly nothing will happen.
Sorry; I meant schincler (sp) I forgot there were two angry quins props there.
I split the game into timing it went like this
72mins for the all blacks.
8mins for the loins.
The best team in world sport just got better can you imagine that!
How many handling errors did the the all blacks have 3 or 4?
The loins need to have better attacking set plays,admitted they had several individual magic moments but any opportunities need taking.
[i]Why does that not work.
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Noticed that live, thought how the hell ref not see it right in front of him. Now see he glances away just at the wrong moment!
You can't help being offensive once a day can you Duckman, no wonder you've been given a rest so many times. I must be the next in line for you to test out before you get banned again.
You carry on mate, you obviously have a thick skin. I'll not address you anymore, I'd rather talk about rugby so you post away and I'll chose which response(s) to report should I see fit.
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....and we're off again. Nice to see how the Lions team really has united us all 😆
Sorry; I meant schincler (sp) I forgot there were two angry quins props there.
Not to worry, I didnt know he played for quims or maybe I did Adam loves him doesnt he!!
Anyway I agree.
Noticed that live, thought how the hell ref not see it right in front of him. Now see he glances away just at the wrong moment!
Video ref was doing his nails too obviously.
I'll chose which response(s) to report should I see fit.
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Lol. Like I said, I'm not engaging in an argument with him any longer, I'd prefer to talk rugby.
You can't help being offensive once a day can you Duckman, no wonder you've been given a rest so many times. I must be the next in line for you to test out before you get banned again.
I got a weekend once for creating a new profile called tantrumpedantry to wind up TJ, which he though hilarious.It would appear your defination of offensive is fluid as even THM called you out on your comments after you beat Wales,...but that is filed alongside pudding in your selective memory. So report away...but in the meantime can you clarify how the Lions suffered because the ref read the papers?
Or is that not rugby related?
So....
Scotland V Fiji - I have been away so only just seen the game.
Fiji - best I have seen them play. tightened up their weaknesses in the set piece and kicked their goals
Scotland - the toonbola ( townsends random selections) went a bit wrong. too many backs combos that do not know each other and too many small backs. Good for development for a few guys tho. Piecrust ( pyrgos) looked a bit hesitant, Rhubarb looked out of place at 10 in the second half and whatever Furra Linee ( Horne) is he is not a centre.
good on Fiji - I wish more top teams would go to Fiji to play them. they need the exposure and you could see the good playing in Europe has done for guys like big Naka
Just watched it; they mulched us up front!
The lesson for Scotland is to not just play to our strengths but make a game plan to expose the others weaknesses. We should have slowed it down and played a more trad NH style a bit more
True - one style only gets predictable.
I wish more top teams would go to Fiji to play them.
See also Samoa and Tonga.
NZ have been to Samoa once, in 2015. Australia, England and South Africa just haven't bothered.
In other news, I gather the Kenya v Germany game in Nairobi was a bit good! Finished 29-30, in front of about 10,000 people! Germany are the growing force in the lower levels of international rugby. Watch this space...!
