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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/30/tory-ministerial-aide-sacked-over-call-for-gaza-ceasefire

How grotesque is that? A ministerial aid gets the sack from his job because he wants to see an end to a bloodbath which so far has cost the lives of almost three and a half thousand children.

I am assuming that Paul Bristow's motivation is not necessarily support for Hamas but a genuine concern for the slaughter of Palestinian children.

It is truly sickening to think that the person who has decided to sack Paul Bristow for wanting an end to the killing is our prime minister.

Surely Rishi Sunak's public support for the continued slaughter of Palestinian children represents an islamophobic hate crime under UK law?

And we know that prime ministers are not above the law.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 12:35 am
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I wonder what sunak/starmer would make of a politician/lord giving such a speech as Gerald Kaufman gave in 2009, sadly passed away in 2017.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 1:16 am
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It's mad how quickly he's got sacked for calling to an end of a war, yet others in the party are not sacked for much worse actual criminal behaviour.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 7:28 am
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Amongst all this, Sundays Observer front page story went almost unnoticed, but it looks like we now have Sunaks ‘strategy’ for the general election campaign. The faint slither of hope given to him in Uxbridge will now be rolled out nationally. Talk about clutching at straws

Rishi Sunak to ‘double down’ on anti-green policies in king’s speech

Rishi Sunak’s government will use next week’s king’s speech to advance expansion of North Sea oil and gas exploration, as well as pro-car policies, in the hope of opening up a clear divide over the green agenda with Labour


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 7:51 am
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Hasn't that policy already backfired given they lost two "totally safe" seats since going all anti-green and pro-car.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 10:14 am
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Very much so, but they're so desperate that its literally all they've got. I think they may be in for a shock how few people are going to be receptive to an 'anti-green' agenda, but this isn't really aimed at the wider electorate. This is simply about getting their base of reactionary bigots off their arses come polling day. It hasn't worked, but they're now completely out of alternative ideas


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 10:28 am
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Very much so, but they’re so desperate that its literally all they’ve got.

Well they've got their pro-genocide policy too, not that it will help them as the Labour leadership are just as enthusiastic on that front. Vote for us, we support genocide and ethnic cleansing, and there's f-all you can do about it. The sad thing is people will, and make themselves apologists for the unforgivable.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 11:13 am
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It's incredibly poor form to have Charles announce them too. For all his faults he has been a consistent supporter of environmental issues and tackling climate change


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 11:13 am
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I've never seen the Kaufmann speech, thanks for sharing.


 
Posted : 31/10/2023 11:25 am
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From the Guardian:

“I despair at No 10’s naivety,” said one senior Tory. “People are worried about their finances, climate change, pandemics, war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East and now the PM has provided Elon Musk with an interview platform to say, sometime soon, that they and their children will not have jobs, a life without meaning."

At least they are being open about the reason they see for your continued existance.

Right up there with "the workers paradise", really.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:06 am
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Meanwhile, just when you thought Mad Nad had reached peak batshit crazy, she's now gone full David Icke and claimed Rishi is under the control of a shadowy cabal, known as 'The Movement', lead by a figure called Dr No 😂


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:27 am
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im not sure that Sunak will be able to get much through, backbench rebellion over ending leasehold for flats will definitely get labour support.

and the oil licences thing is all just a bit pointless, theres hardly any left in the north sea and we lack the infrastructure to get it out

its all just hot air, but not the global warming kind!

meanwhile Dories is going to spend the next  year leaking stuff like this (unless shes given a peerage, obvs)

https://twitter.com/killingbritain/status/1721059347579695280?t=sHQtAVdxIAdqOkOqnyp4TQ&s=19


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:29 am
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Rishi Sunak must be appalled by this as I know that he attaches so much importance to what pupils are taught at school.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/nov/05/schools-in-england-block-lessons-on-middle-east-over-fears-of-bias-claims

The fear of discussing the Middle-East, or more probable the fear of people learning more about the Middle-East, has certainly got a grip on our society.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 3:25 pm
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😳 at all the Mad Nad stuff.
Also not sure who's more mental, her or the Daily Mail staff for running such a story without going "sorry, WTAF are you on about?" and then calling for the men in white coats.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 3:48 pm
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She'll be taking that to who ever is in charge of mps standards then.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 5:13 pm
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now im sure that theres plenty of issues within parliament as s whole (labour have their own mysteriously suspended MP)

but the Tories could really be in the doodoo over this 

https://twitter.com/fenwench/status/1721177289105289486?t=KvV7iZahpUY6r6-g4p1P-A&s=19


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 7:42 pm
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That ^^ sort of stuff wasn't happening when Thatcher was Tory Leader, women were treated with respect:

Whether you agree with her or not, she smashed glass ceilings and shifted the boundaries.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-margaret-thatcher-b2441901.html

But it’s not just Thatcher’s career that was an influence — Reeves says she’s learned the art and power of fashion through Thatcher, who was known for her power suits and sharp sense of style.

And Thatcher is someone who got it right, according to Reeves who wrote: “Well-coiffured hair, bright blue suits and, of course, the handbag were Thatcher’s trademark – a source of both appeal and caricature.”

If Liz Truss came out with drivel like that she would quite rightly be castigated on here.

I have never heard of "power suits" before btw, although I suspect Liz Truss probably has.

And according to the article Copy-and-Paste Truss Reaves was 3 months old when Thatcher came to power, therefore 11 years old when Thatcher resigned, so when she says "My generation of women, of course we have been influenced by her" presumably all the influence Thatcher had on her comes from stuff that she has read.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 9:59 pm
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power suits was an 80s thing.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:11 pm
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power suits was an 80s thing.

Yep, the modern Tory is all about the Power Stance:

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Posted : 05/11/2023 10:29 pm
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Ernie very surprised you weren't aware, power suit was very much a key part of recognising women trying to be part of a male dominated world in the 80's - primary coloured dresses with large cut shoulders, pumped up poodle hair does and a handbag usually big enough to swing with authority usually covered it.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:31 pm
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They all look like they're going for a theatrical fart


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:31 pm
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^^ You SOB Crazy legs, I was literally just going to post that picture! 😆

Yeah, the Tories have a strange fascination with Powaaaaahhhh!


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:32 pm
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80’s shoulder pads and power dressing?…


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:35 pm
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binners - you scrub up nicely...


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:38 pm
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I like to make the effort


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:41 pm
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Ernie very surprised you weren’t aware, power suit was very much a key part of recognising women trying to be part of a male dominated world in the 80’s

No, wasn't aware, but good ol' Google explains it to me:

"Most known in the 1980s, the power suit is an (typically) exaggerated man’s business suit that is worn by a woman, in order to associate masculine traits (such as authority and respect) to the woman wearing it."

I can't say that I ever paid much attention to what Thatcher wore but the only times I can recall her wearing "exaggerated man’s business suits" was on Spitting Image.


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:42 pm
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Bleedin 'ell, from the Imperial War Museum:

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30089560


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 10:49 pm
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That “power stance” is just asking for someone to take a run up and kick them in the nads/chuff


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:16 pm
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Thanks for those pics @crazy-legs.

For some reason I was trying to demonstrate the Tory power stance to the kids yesterday. I thought I’d made it as stupid as I could, and now I realise I wasn’t even close 😂


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:34 pm
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Given that Rishi is about 5’2” and famously wears trousers far too short for him, if he attempted a power stance he’d look like a toddler in a pair of shorts


 
Posted : 05/11/2023 11:40 pm
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I’m pretty sure he was doing the power stance during the run off with Truss.

Anyway…

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Posted : 06/11/2023 12:53 am
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Sunak has tried it but he has trouble finding a camera man that can get low enough to get his legs in shot whilst also panned upward to make him look tall. It's a real conundrum for the little fella.


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 11:15 am
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I think that with all the crap things he's done we don't really need to take the piss out of him for his physical features, do we?


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 11:22 am
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Today at the Covid inquiry is Clare Lombardelli, who was chief economic adviser under Rishi Sunak at the Treasury.

This on the day that Conservative peer Michelle Mone finally (after months of denial) admitted connection to a PPE company given £203m during Covid...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/06/michelle-mone-admits-involvement-with-vip-lane-ppe-company?CMP=share_btn_tw


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 11:40 am
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I like to make the effort

All done in the best possible taste!


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 12:23 pm
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The Sex scandals within the party are going to be a problem for him (its always the coverup) at the moment it seems at least 2 MPs & 1 SPAD are being investigated for rape, Oliver Dowdens lies will come back to haunt him

plus youve got Danny Kruger & Ben Houchen raising money for convicted racist Bob Stewart to appeal his case which has shades of Owen Patterson

Braverman moving her focus of hate from refugees to the homeless

Johnson freewheeling in Israel

Badenoch exposed using an already debunked IEA report to say brexit is definitely a success and not dragging down the economy & making us all poorer

Cummings in a manic phase up & lobbing out his usual brand of insane vitriol

Dories still raging about her non-peerage willing to take anyone down, because she has a book to sell

Sunak has got a lot going on right now, has a feel of the multiple rolling scandals Johnson saw in the last 6 months as PM


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 12:45 pm
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^^ I for one feel sorry for sunak with all this going on.

(I f****** well don't.)


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 1:13 pm
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It does (thankfully) feel like the final death throes of this bloody awful government, but at the same time terrifying to think they could stagger on for another 12 months

God knows what damage they'll do in that time? Or maybe they'll just carry on scrapping with each other instead?

Johnson freewheeling in Israel

Never one to miss a photo op in a flak jacket, is he? Could he be any more crass?


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 1:21 pm
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Sunak has got a lot going on right now

Yeah, and none of it is actually doing government stuff.


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 1:32 pm
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I think that with all the crap things he’s done we don’t really need to take the piss out of him for his physical features, do we?

On the contrary, any proper political discussion is labelled as 'derailling' or 'ruining' the thread by our self-appointed forum police.


 
Posted : 06/11/2023 2:07 pm
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Fieldwork yesterday:

https://twitter.com/wethinkpolling/status/1723000231543882184

I can't see the Braverman bounce.


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 7:51 pm
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I can’t see the Braverman bounce.<br /><br />

I doubt she’d bounce either, I’d still be interested in throwing her from a greater height just to satisfy my curiosity though. 


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:11 pm
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I'm still bloody traumatised by the fact that 1/4 of course would still vote Tory.

I mean, I'm guessing that even if Tory ministers started carrying out drive by shootings they aren't going to lose their vote?


 
Posted : 10/11/2023 10:25 pm
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We have truly entered the mirrorverse. Imagine if these ****ers stopped humping or trying to hump everything that moved and actually tried to help their constituents?

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1723060988189032863


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 10:33 am
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Poop scoop =- most parties have a base vote that will only ever vote for them.  Even at their lowest in Scotland they still got around 20% of the vote.  It will be interesting if it drops below that at the next election seeing as Labour are trying to hoover up the unionist / anyone but SNP vote


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 10:36 am
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In other news, apparently the 50-60 ERG fruibats who support Cruella are now referring to themselves as ‘The Five Families’. A reference to the five families who control the mafia in the states. The assertion - probably correct - being that they run the party

Instead of it being laughably pathetic, they probably think that’s scary or something. I suppose it is if you’re little Rishi, as they’re all going to write to Graham Brady if he sacks Braverman, and it’s a vote of no confidence in the little fella and another leadership election.

They’re actually insane enough to do it too, aren’t they? They don’t give a shit about anything or anyone other than their own little psychodramas that we’ve all had more than enough of

We just need this lot gone, for the good of everyone


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 10:49 am
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I think if Rishi resigned snd forced another leadership election, there should be protests in the streets demanding a general election.

I know thats not how our version of parliament and democracy are meant to work, but 3 unelected PMs in a year is taking the piss.


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 10:57 am
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he's gone full trump

He says he condemns the "violent, wholly unacceptable scenes we have seen today from the EDL and associated groups and Hamas sympathisers attending the National March for Palestine".


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 8:04 pm
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Just read that, the man is disgusting, I haven't seen any reports of any significant issues with the marchers, it's all been the 100 odd football hooligans. 


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 8:11 pm
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What a totally spineless little shithouse.

He should have just written ‘I am now nothing more than a pathetic little sock puppet for Suella and her far right friends’ 


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 8:14 pm
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He is a piece of shit, equating chants and slogans with racists fighting police.


 
Posted : 11/11/2023 8:14 pm
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Absolute meltdown on ConHome comments section atm

not only have they lost Braverman- champion of the anti-woke brigade

but Remainer Dave is coming back!!! he who bravely ran away, isnt even an MP and will now be shoehorned into the HOL so he can join the team......  I can see why Sunak has done this & as a foreign secretary he has a higher profile  than many others, but still seems nuts, all his Greensil lobbying is going to be raked over again


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:18 am
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I wonder how many letters to Graham Brady have gone in already?


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:20 am
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can a non elected person be given a ministerial position?  surely not, this paves the way for everyone getting their mates into the cabinet surely?


 
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Yes they can be.  Plenty of previous of using the HOL to fill cabinet positions.  I don't remember anyone tho being appointed to the cabinet who also had to be made a peer at the same time.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:33 am
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can a non elected person be given a ministerial position?

They just have to be a parliamentarian.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:34 am
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Well, the country has pretty much stood still since 2016 so Cameron coming back is kind of poetic I suppose.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:44 am
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Silver lining

Johnson hates Cameron, he will be hating this


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 11:48 am
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Yes they can be. Plenty of previous of using the HOL to fill cabinet positions.

Eg Lord Carrington as Defence Secretary during the Falklands War.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:02 pm
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Imagine being a Tory MP and knowing none of you are good enough to be Foreign Secretary, so Sunak has had to bring in an outsider.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:11 pm
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Can I also add that Dave Cameron's 'serious face for serious days' makes him look like he's holding back a particularly urgent turtle's head. 


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:14 pm
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Poor turtle. Who put it up there?


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:18 pm
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A source within the Labour Party apparently messaged a GB News (I couldn't resist) pundit when asked for comment about Cameron.

He said, "The Tories have given up on Sunderland, this is all about Surrey now."

He has a point.😁


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:21 pm
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Interesting that more moderate MPs like Tugenhadt are completely ignored to bring back a non MP for one of our biggest Offices of State.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:27 pm
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I suspect a moderate with any talent is hiding on the back benches not wanting to be associated with Sunaks government as it will harm their reelection chances if they are.  also being a back bencher gives you more time to do constituency stuff and campaign


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:29 pm
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megalols if this happened

https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/1724002788961640907

House of Lords Appointment Comitte could block him because of his involvement in the Greensill scandal


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:29 pm
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A few nonentities standing down as well


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:30 pm
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I don’t remember anyone tho being appointed to the cabinet who also had to be made a peer at the same time.

Peter Mandleson!  (After being sacked from cabinet twice before hand, and standing down as an MP to become a European Commissioner).


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:35 pm
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@nartinhutch Carrington was Foreign Secretary and resigned on April the fifth 1982 for the failure of the Foreign Office in not anticipating the Argentine invasion. Your main point remains accurate though.


 
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https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/nov/12/uk-government-challenged-over-icc-inquiry-into-israels-conduct

The UK government is being challenged over whether it will join Labour in supporting an international criminal court inquiry into potential war crimes committed by Israel, with the shadow foreign secretary, David Lammy, calling for all parties to uphold international law.

An interesting issue for Lord Cameron to deal with.

Previously the Tories have argued that because Israel is not a signatory to the international criminal court, and Palestine is under Israeli occupation so therefore not a sovereign state, that the international criminal court has no right to investigate Israeli war crimes in Palestine.

With the amounting slaughter of civilians and evidence of war crimes our new Foreign Secretary might struggle to maintain the policy that Israel does not need to be held accountable in the international criminal court.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:37 pm
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That Guardian link's a good read Ernie, thanks.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 12:53 pm
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Mrs Doubtfire is gone too. Jumped before she was pushed. Seems harsh... she did such a great job. Her genuine concern for the environment she carried out with such passion


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 2:05 pm
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That's one ray of sunshine. Who has she been replaced with?

Please say Mark "SoS for Drivers" Harper has gone too?


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 2:08 pm
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Sunaks gonna need to find a few more ministers now - I've lost track of how many resignations now - mainly juniors it must be said.

Oh I am enjoying this


 
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So apparently I've been at work this morning and just like that famous shower episode in Dallas I've gone back 5 years and that smug faced twunt is back.

They will be digging up thatcher next.


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 2:19 pm
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Mail online comments are glorious. I suspect chemists will run out of aspirin by the end of the day. How many sessions can a defib be used for?


 
Posted : 13/11/2023 2:56 pm
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Their hero has been dethroned and they've not even got over Boris yet! Or Liz!

How long do we reckon Cruella will stay quiet for before she comes out swinging then? I imagine she's feeling mightily aggrieved and keen to vent her furious indignation

She should really leave it until Wednesday so she can blame him for the failure of Rwanda/take the credit for Rwanda, but when it comes to keeping her gob shut she's like a teenager with tourettes who's just necked a can of Red Bull


 
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Sunak seems to have cut off the head of whatever devil he had done his deal with.

This seems to be quite a reset.

They must of realised that the culture wars weren't going to cut it.

Let's see what the ERG/Tufton Street/right wing nut jobs do next.


 
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I see party girl Therese Coffey has chucked it in.

I do wonder who's in the pipeline for that jobby?


 
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