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He is in no rush to call the elections as I heard him say just a few days ago how hard he is working to deliver his pledges to everyone, why would he want to stop delivering that great stuff.
@kimbers It’s a bit of a gamble.
Good LEs and it makes his position stronger for the GE, bad LEs (which frankly seems more likely) and he’ll have a load of pissed off local activists who won’t campaign.
She really is madder than a tube of kittens
Probably taking home a shitload of cash for telling the audience what it wants to hear so maybe not mad.
Even without that she has a choice between admitting the plans she had for years and schemed to the top of the tory party for were in fact shit or blaming someone or something else.
Given the position of power she was in she has to go for deep state as the evil opponents.
Get ready for the Tories to celebrate lowering energy prices (not reverting back to the low pre-inflation of course.) And nothing to do with them.
I reckon this is just temporary dip because that's how it works as things get bumpy.
But the Tories will love it. Also remember everything has gone up loads including anything to do with interest rates and they've not gone down. (The general price level.)
She really is madder than a tube of kittens
🤣 This really made me laugh. I know it's not funny really though. She's very dangerous. And stupid. A terrifying combination.
I think they all debunked to the Starmer thread to blame him for the chaos yesterday.”
I just popped onto that thread to see how it was going… I now regret that choice.
‘That’ thread is the STW equivalent of Super Hans New Year’s Eve party 😂
^^ lol 😁
the Tories are having a normal one
Truss has has done more (paid) trips to America than speeches in the commons this year & the stuff she said with bannon was bonkers
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1761146826588053890?t=CO9sbBCkGi1YYhuxFnM2Zg&s=19
Sunak has been out courting the Gilet Jones in wales
https://twitter.com/JonesyFay/status/1761033233842471013?t=b2_bWr0iwQiYDeYZrx3wXg&s=19
and lee Anderson has gone full Tommy Robinson
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1761146872352145869?t=uS5MlF64qMt70akNF9h3Nw&s=19
is there a sort of mania that grips a party when they're stuck consistently 20pts behind in the polls?
Gilet Jones
I'm actually way prouder of that than i should be
Seems like it’s a deliberate campaign from the nutjobs. Cruella has waded in with her size 12’s, saying the same thing in the Torygraph
They’re all completely hatstand, aren’t they?
Just wait until she finds out who’s actually been in charge of Britain for the last 14 years
This sums up the Truss fandango quite nicely:
https://twitter.com/cbrookmyre/status/1761070124579115193
is there a sort of mania that grips a party when they’re stuck consistently 20pts behind in the polls?
Anderson's comments are very similar to those made by David Cameron 18 years ago:
It didn't help Zac Goldsmith to win the London Mayoral election, in fact it almost certainly backfired and helped Sadiq Khan.
There is no reason to believe that the latest anti-Khan islamophobia by the Tories will be any more productive.
Looks like the Tories are taking a long run up to a May 2nd election day by trying to bleed talking points from the London Mayoral Election on the same day into the national campaign, where there may even be a better reception for that kind of culture war shit.
Now the Starmer thread has been closed they're coming here to, no doubt, push the same views which will lead to this thread also being closed.
I give it two weeks.
Oh joy! Something to look forward to. You know how every town needs a pub that’s a nobhead magnet, to keep them out of every other drinking establishment…
Looks like I’ll have to retire this then
Meanwhile Sunak and gang have normalised this kind of behaviour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68388579
Probably just need a thread called "UK Politics" where whatever discussion can take place about the things that day/week in politics".
I wouldn't be surprised if the Starmer thread get's reopened anyway, a sort of U Turn if you like.
Certain people need an intervention
Most already have had one. There's overlap between those threads, posters and threads about MH.
Is it a form of affluent middle-class guilt where getting into spats is a form of self-flagellation at not having had enough suffering in their life.
Or are they just dicks?
They might need to consider taking up cycling.
Is it a form of affluent middle-class guilt where getting into spats is a form of self-flagellation at not having had enough suffering in their life.
Or are they just dicks?
Something about a razor.
So in the last 24 hours we’ve had the former Home Secretary and the former deputy chair of the Tory Party claim that the country has been taken over by a shadowy Islamist cabal, led by Sadiq Khan and the former PM is off busking it in the states, repeating far right conspiracy theories about the country being run by a left wing ‘Deep State’ which undermines democracy
Anyone heard anything from Rishi? The person who is allegedly running the country?
Or is it not just expected that his MPs have all got their metaphorical tinfoil helmets on and trot out a constant stream of unhinged, paranoid far right, racist and xenophobic bile?
The weakness has always been clear. He has no control over large chunks of his party. His only aim is to hold it together long enough to get to an election. Removing whips etc will trigger the implosion immediately, rather than save the blood-letting until after the polls close.
It's disgusting.
Truss has gone full fascist now.
Talking about how the Judges need to be removed, to allow the Government to remove regulation and human rights.
Wasn't that the 1st move after the Enabling Act?
Steve Bannon described Yaxley Lennon as a hero and she didn't push back.
Yet Sunak says nothing.
My hatred of him still just builds and builds.
I don't use that word very often but there is no other way to describe how I feel about him and his ways.
The Starmer thread got out of hand as the notorious posters had to be more right than others
Usual STW
Were you following the thread? Someone who as far as I am aware had never previously posted on that thread posted something fairly offensive.
I challenged it to a degree, Brownperson called it out in much stronger terms and claimed that he had reported the post. The post was shortly afterwards deleted and the thread was closed.
I didn't recognise the poster, who is a full member, of the offending post at all, so I looked at their profile which said that they had been a member since 2009.
It came as a surprise to me as they obviously have strong views, well on Palestine anyway, and yet I don't recall ever seeing them on a political thread before.
So you’ve come on this thread to talk about ‘that’ now closed thread?
Fantastic!
Any other pointless and irrelevant issues you’d like to discuss?
Flower arranging?
Donkey sanctuaries?
https://twitter.com/lukecooper100/status/1761097211239153835?s=20
She has gone a long way from the Liberal Democrats. It's scary to think that less a couple of years ago she was Prime Minister. I am genuinely shocked how much off the rails she has gone.
She claims that she was "sacked" and that the British people back her stance. Which doesn't quite explain why Labour has a 20% lead.
Edit: The first link I posted didn't work, the one above should.
I genuinely think Truss is so delusional that she’ll trot out any old shite to try and avoid facing up to the uncomfortable reality that she was just the most shit PM in this countries history. And that’s following Boris Johnson. Quite an achievement. Her ego just won’t allow her to accept the obvious truth.
She’s also too thick to realise that the optics ain’t that great of standing on stage next to a loon like Bannon in front of a room of MAGA shitkickers
If Rishi had a modicum of control he’d be slapping these nutters down, but they know they can pull his strings because despite it all the likes of Truss and Braverman are still more popular than him with the backbenchers and party membership
Certain people need an intervention
You mean people who disagree with you? Apart from one idiot the discussion on the Starmer thread was perfectly fine. Deal with the offenders rather than shutting down the whole bloody thread!
There's a lot of talk and faux-outrage on this thread about far right fascists (see above about Truss), but then we're not allowed to talk about actual real far right fascism going on not far from us which is resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians. If I were a complete stranger coming on here seeing the lack of discussion and the active cancelling of any discussion of the subject I might wonder why that is and conclude that this forum doesn't tolerate any anti-Israel opinion. I might even interpret it as tacit support for what's happening. Censorship is a dangerous game.
Any other pointless and irrelevant issues you’d like to discuss?
Flower arranging?
Donkey sanctuaries?
Wow!
Oh FFS?! Censorship? Fascism? Is it like Nazi Germany around here? Really? Grow up FFS! 🙄
Better still… head off to Twitter/X and shout into the void with the rest of the nutters, rather than depth-charging yet another thread on here
so what are the odds of Anderson having tge whip removed?
or will he just need to go on a training course like he did when was posting antisemitism?
https://www.thejc.com/news/two-conservative-mps-receive-training-on-antisemitism-afhkfm2z
Oh FFS?! Censorship? Fascism? Is it like Nazi Germany around here? Really? Grow up FFS! 🙄
Better still… head off to Twitter/X and shout into the void with the rest of the nutters, rather than depth-charging yet another thread on here
It's the weekend and some people still can't have a day off from working themselves up into a rage. Think of your blood pressure binners!
Admittedly it was very naughty of Daz to throw that hand grenade! 😂
so what are the odds of Anderson having the whip removed?
Absolutely zero. They all know they can spout this garbage with impunity as Rishi is too weak to do anything about it.
A few of them really are pushing the boundaries into proper far-right, conspiracy-theory nut-jobbery now though while still retaining the whip from the party in power. Islamist cabals? The ‘Deep State’? Really?
From the above link:
Mr Anderson was an active member of Ashfield Backs Boris, a Facebook group where Soros conspiracy theories have been promoted and which includes supporters of the far-right activist Tommy Robinson.
He told the JC: “I apologised for being a member of the group that allegedly posted offensive remarks.
Things are so messed up currently in UK far-right politics - the Jewish-haters don't know who to back.
"Tommy Robinson" is actually a very strong supporter of Israel and zionism.
and lee Anderson has gone full Tommy Robinson
I'd say more Melanie Phillips. But Lee could actually come and talk to some of us Muslims and find out that most of us aren't extremists, and just want what the majority of people want really. Because all that shouty fundamentalism is really quite tedious and not particularly fun. Far from the extremists 'having control of London', I think their numbers are actually decreasing, as more of us reasonable Muslims have no time for their nonsense.
I just want to drink my pint in peace.
That video of Liz Truss reminds me of someone I saw in a nightclub around 1994 or thereabouts. They were high on a combination of Ecstasy, Charlie, Ketamine and Valium. Fortunately for them, they eventually came back to normality. I think Truss is way too far gone.
I just want to drink my pint in peace.
Inshallah
Truss surfacing like this might actually help Sunak… not being her is about all he has going for him when he first become PM… a few reminders of that might not be such a bad thing come polling day.
Rishi has now completely lost control of his party. 30p Lee has thrown off any vestiges of Tory camouflage and shown his BNP colours in full whilst Truss, a former PM in the eyes of the US if not ours has just stated on TV that the President of our biggest allay be ‘kicked out’ not to mention her continued rants on various conspiracy theories. That 2 sitting MPs are being allowed to do this shows we are through the looking glass now as far as Rishi’s premiership goes.
The Tory party as it has been over the last 100 years is dead and that’s actually not a good thing in a 2 party system of government.
There should be a mechanism where a GE can be forced when it’s clear the PM cannot form a government.
There should be a mechanism where a GE can be forced when it’s clear the PM cannot form a government.
There should be but I reckon it'll go the other way. Tories declare some kind of manufactured crisis - maybe an imminent invasion of migrants in small boats - and put the whole country under martial law.
And then just remain in power cos obviously you can't have democratic nonsense like an election while there's a CRISIS!