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Damned if he does, even more damned if he doesn't.
Israel is Israel's biggest supplier of military hardware. It exported three times as much as it received from the US. The picture of Israel beinf dependent on US handouts is totally inaccurate.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/4/infographic-what-you-need-to-know-about-israels-military
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Which will then lead to the poor sods being sanctioned too.
To clarify my recent post - the US is the largest exporter of military equipment to Israel.
That should satisfy any pedants.
The US have supplied military equipment to Israel every year since 1961.
Anything to say about lil' rishi?
Anything to say about lil’ rishi?
Just watching the news now, he's poncing around Israel saying how much he supports them.
Bet he's gutted that Biden got there before him.
Global Britain innit?
There’s something deeply tragic about it, isn’t there?
A desperate photo op to a backdrop of utter carnage, hopelessly trying to appear relevant, while obviously running away from potentially catastrophic by-election results
It’s pathetic. He’s utterly pathetic.,
He's in Saudi now, presumably to visit his Big Oil mates since the Tories are basically the political front of the oil and gas industries.
Maybe flog them a few weapons while he's at it.
Edit: I see the Covid inquiry isn't painting him in a positive light:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67163232
Still, at least his wife did well out of it:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife
I reckon he has popped into Saudi Arabia whilst he is in that neck of the woods either to emphasis the shared values that both the UK and Saudi Arabia have.
Or to take the opportunity to once again criticise Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for ordering the execution of Jamal Khashoggi, in a foreign country, for offending him.
Still, at least his wife did well out of it:<br />
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife/blockquote >
It's corruption basically isn't it? That would have ended a Premiership pre referendum, when there was at least a pretence of decency in public life. It's also chump change for the Sunaks, you would think they wouldn't even bother with the "small"amounts involved given the obvious conflict of interest and potential embarrassment. The rich are never rich enough though.Still "Labour are just as bad." apparently?
Story is absolute bull. Not even GCSE grade understanding of business or finance. It’s written like they skimmed off £2m personally.
VC’s have multiple investors and partners. The co’s they invest in also have many investors / share / option holders. Likely hundreds of people involved, using a scheme as intended. £2m is insignificant to them, even more so the scheme overall.
Every VC and co in the UK was eligible at the time and it was publicised everywhere. STW could have raised investment and benefitted. There was no need to be mates with Rishi.
The little fella trundling around various middle eastern capitals mouthing platitudes as he has nothing else to offer is both pathetic and humbling.
He cannot offer military support to Israel as successive governments have reduced our armed forces to relative impotence; he can offer GCHQ intelligence but is that anything better than what Biden has made available?
The US have sent two naval task groups to the eastern med in a 'show of strength'; the UK couldn't send a fishing boat.
We truly are a much diminished and faded post-colonial country.
What's worse is that the whole world sees this for the charade it really is.
Its Lettuce Time! :D, and my monies on the lettuce!
Looking at the by-election results, you can see why even Gaza seemed preferable to Bedfordshire at the moment.
Well done little guy. You’re conference bounce was so impressive it caused one of the biggest swings in political history
Cruella and Kemi and the lettuce will be sharpening the knives for the latest round of Tory bloodletting
Just call a general election and get it over with
When is this going to be over we literally have doctor death as a prime minister.
Just call a general election and get it over with
And give up on all the expenses, the nice free helicopter/private jet, the photo opportunities...?!
Oh no, they're in it for the duration.
They haven't run the country in the interests of what the people want for the last 10+ years (in spite of the best efforts of the Daily Mail giving it "the will of the people" narrative), what makes you think they'll change now?!
I'm sure there'll be plenty of "lessons learned" and "a willingness to listen" from the by-election results though...
Exactly, you will need to take it from his cold dead hands
both losing tories scumbags took it with good grace 🙂
The longer they hold on, the longer they can feed various relatives / mates companies lots of government money
Its like working your notice period - you only do stuff you want to...and take as much cash as possible
your party are going to cut you up and stuff you in a suitcase.
im stealing that !
Story is absolute bull. Not even GCSE grade understanding of business or finance. It’s written like they skimmed off £2m personally.
VC’s have multiple investors and partners. The co’s they invest in also have many investors / share / option holders. Likely hundreds of people involved, using a scheme as intended. £2m is insignificant to them, even more so the scheme overall.
Every VC and co in the UK was eligible at the time and it was publicised everywhere. STW could have raised investment and benefitted. There was no need to be mates with Rishi.
sillysilly t's not "bull". UK taxpayers monies were put into 4 businesses where Sunak's wife was also an investor, and 3 of the 4 failed. I'd want to see the business case that the UK Bank Team (whoever they are) wrote at the time showing why they believed these were good investments AND I'd want to see who got there money out before they failed. Without this evidence I'm assuming something dodgy occurred.
your party are going to cut you up and stuff you in a suitcase.
im stealing that !
Mods is it possible you can change name of thread I just cant take seeing his name anymore, how about Doctor Death?
I’m sure there’ll be plenty of “lessons learned” and “a willingness to listen” from the by-election results though…
Apparently not, they're doing the right things, and Rishi is the right man, according to Tory talking heads this morning.
This lot simply do not know anything apart from how to double down.
They've wheeled out weapons-grade dimwit Greg Hands to do the media rounds this morning.
It really is something to behold...

I wish people would stop beating on Rishi. He's inherited a terrible situation caused by the last Tory government, which he was definitely not part of, that was a different guy who had the same name and looked like him. Despite this, he's still going all out to deliver for the British people. If fact, he's delivering so much he's giving Postman Pat a run for his money. He's making so many "big calls" that his monthly phone bill is going to be astronomical. He´s going to reshuffle his cabinet for the umpteenth time and bring in some new faces, including the Haunted Pencil and the reanimated corpse of Enoch Powell, that will really make a difference. And if that doesn't work, you can be sure that Graham Brady will be receiving some letters from the children, so we can break out the Tory Tombola and see who gets to be PM next. Jolly good show!
Anyhow, Labour smell of wee and kicked your cat, so don't vote for them.
Meanwhile, back home…
Blimey.
I can't remember who's spent the most on private jets now? Is it still Liz when she was foreign secretary? Or has Rishi overtaken her now?
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1715030082299810223?s=20
Think Sunak will be gone by the end of the month. We could very well have a general election before christmas as surely they won't get away with another change in leadership without going to the country. If one of the loons like Braverman replaces Sunak I wouldn't put it past sensible tory MPs to support a vote of no confidence.
I will confess to having a chuckle at the WhatsApp messages between Dame Angela and Jon. Obviously I know and worked with both of them on SAGE, and am happy to confirm that I stuck to the “Write Right” principles at all times. And I don’t use WhatsApp. But prescient nevertheless. He’s still angry about it now. Should have seen him at the time!! Cases started to rise from the end of the summer 2020.
Soon-out will be gone by the Spring. One more crushing by-election should do it. If they are mad enough then could it be Cruella or even Badenough?
Think Sunak will be gone by the end of the month. We could very well have a general election before christmas as surely they won’t get away with another change in leadership without going to the country.
I know theyre mad a s a box of frogs, but none of them want to ruin their xmas with a leadership contest & a GE
We could very well have a general election before christmas
You could be right. He needs to have one pretty soon either way or the "I'm the Change Candidate" he was peddling at the conference will be very stale if he leaves it as long as he can.
Think Sunak will be gone by the end of the month. We could very well have a general election before christmas as surely they won’t get away with another change in leadership without going to the country.
If the tory mps concluded giving him the boot would mean a election then they wouldnt vote him out. Better to spend the next year doing some job hunting than having it now.
I know theyre mad a s a box of frogs
I reckon there are significant numbers of tory MPs who just want to be put out of their misery and start the rebuild. They get rid of Sunak, The membership elects Braverman to replace him, liberal tory MPs refuse to back her and we get a confidence vote and an election. The tories will then be wiped out and the liberals can regain control from the loons and start again. They can also do this against the backdrop of a 'safe' labour PM who won't do anything radical.
Good to see the satirists still have some material to work with.
If the tory mps concluded giving him the boot would mean a election then they wouldnt vote him out. Better to spend the next year doing some job hunting than having it now.
they can easily spend the next year doing that, rinsing out the expenses & generally doing nothing
It's odd that the tories now think the route to electoral victory is extreme right wing and not the center ground 😕 Geebeebies are constantly on about the "silent majority" as if they are a rabid bunch of goose stepping card carrying National fronters. Right wing echo chambers and projection I guess :/
as surely they won’t get away with another change in leadership without going to the country
You think they care what anyone thinks? Of course they'll have another leadership election before they even countenance a general election. That would then involve Braverman and Badanoch fighting it out to energise their racist pensioner base with threats to fire asylum seekers into the sun or feed them into wood chipping machines.
I expect the letters are going in already
I've just checked and the odds are as follows:
Kemi Badenoch - 7/2
Penny Mordaunt - 9/2
James Cleverly - 13/2
Suella Braverman - 17/2
It’s odd that the tories now think the route to electoral victory is extreme right wing and not the center ground
Even stranger considering that their "user base" is slowly dying out, with the upcoming generation being much more centre / centre left.
The last gasp of a political fossil one hopes.
Think Sunak will be gone by the end of the month. We could very well have a general election before christmas as surely they won’t get away with another change in leadership without going to the country.
they would have zero need to go to the country. They would take as long as they can to try to get any new leader bedded in and more favourable ratings
Not that I expect any change. Sunak is not going to resign and the tory MPs do not want a loon in charge which is what would happen with another contest decided by the membership. there may be letters go in but only from the loony fringe
