[Closed] Rip Rangers

Too true. Too many folk with blinkers and tinted glasses on. Same old arguments, same old shite.

they'll be moving on to the second coming thread....:)

It'll be a sad day for Scottish football when Rangers finally close their doors (which is looking more and more likely).

No major sponsors will be interested in an SPL without them, UEFA will probably cut the quota of European Champions and Europa League places for Scottish clubs and the TV money for the SPL will disappear.

The SPL will be on a par with the Welsh Premier League. Celtic will want to come to join the English leagues further devaluing the SPL (although I doubt the English clubs would agree to it).

The SPL will be on a par with the Welsh Premier League.

Like it or not the SPL can not survive as a credable leauge without tthe oldfim

Rangers gone? Great news. Celtic next, please!

+1 Celtic and Rangers , two cheeks of the same arse...

andyruss - Member
Like it or not the SPL can not survive as a credable leauge without tthe oldfim

If Rangers are liquidated and reformed as a Newco,
should they be allowed immediate re-entry into the
SPL?
NO
15,782 (95.49%)
YES
745 (4.51%

Of course other clubs will vote them out....christ it 's a no brainer.But when sponsership dries up and clubs have to survive on their own gate receipts what then. You end up with with celtic as the only club trying to win the leauge and the rest just trying to avoid relegation what an advert for our top leauge

Of course other clubs will vote them out....christ it 's a no brainer.[b]But when sponsership dries up and clubs have to survive on their own gate receipts what then.[/b] You end up with with celtic as the only club trying to win the leauge and the rest just trying to avoid relegation what an advert for our top leauge

andyruss - Member
Of course other clubs will vote them out....christ it 's a no brainer.But when sponsership dries up and clubs have to survive on their own gate receipts what then. You end up with with celtic as the only club trying to win the leauge and the rest just trying to avoid relegation what an advert for our top leauge

Trying to say one or the other will happen is silly. Scottish fitba will carry on regarless though.

True punishment has to be handed out to rangers though or it truly will be the end.

Plus we've still got Big tax case, wee tax case, dual contracts, misuse of EBTs.. There's should be plenty more harsh punishment to come, if not, integrity in the league is completely gone.

if not, integrity in the league is completely gone.

Oh bloody hell, a Celtic fan talking about integrity? **** me sideways 🙄

seosamh77 - Member

They aren't sectarian, I view them as historical and as part of my heritage.

Ya know, I met a chap from Alabama once who felt the same about white bedsheets.

S77 you are just enjoying getting one over on rangers and quite right. If rangers got of l can just see the conspiracy merchants at parkhead let alone lennon having a fit. But as you said earlier oldfirm songs are history,,that makes rangers part of your history too. Even you know that nothing can replace beating rangers to the title or getting one over them at lbrox. Beating the likes of hearts week ln week out won 't come remotely close. With no compertion how strong will your team be in europe.?

Its just a football club, a field and some seats, that a gang of overpaid men play football and fall over on every week, no great loss,comapred to some of the great engineering companies that have gone with the skills associated with them.

Roll on the demolition experts, to raise it to the ground,to build new homes,new shops,cinemas, and lots more, all creating new jobs and new opportunities for the locals,bringing wealth into the area,along with new build in adjoining areas.

There are other football teams to watch.

Roll on the demolition experts, to raise it to the ground,to build new homes,new shops,cinemas, and lots more, all [b]creating new jobs[/b] and new opportunities for the locals,bringing wealth into the area,along with new build in adjoining areas.

new jobs will be created, a lot of football clubs rely on volunteer staff .

Ones who kick a ball for a living can go to another club.

lots of new jobs will be create, a lot of staff at football clubs are volunteers, on match days.

Ones who kick a ball for a living can just apply to another club.

Houses, shops and cinemas built on the land?? That's funny.
Somehow I can't see it- is the shopping mall going to retain the ibrox facade then?
Facade is a good word to use in the context of rangers at the though..

Northwind - Member
seosamh77 - Member
They aren't sectarian, I view them as historical and as part of my heritage.

Ya know, I met a chap from Alabama once who felt the same about white bedsheets.

whatnobeer - Member
if not, integrity in the league is completely gone.
Oh bloody hell, a Celtic fan talking about integrity? **** me sideways

Nope - its absolutly correct - by defending he singing of sectarian songs you show your lack of understanding of the situation.

have you actually been to a game recently?

So then. How will Celtic do in the English Premier League?

They'd have to start in the conference I would have thought

We're not the ones cheating..

Tour of Japan good was it? Intimidation of referees? Altering attendance figures to avoid paying tax? EBT used to pay Juninho?

We're not the ones cheating..

It's a football team they ALL cheat.

Tj - shoosh

Whatnobeer - juninho, yes that happened. We also realised it was a silly road to go down. Paid the tax and even warned you fools to do the same. Advise which, much to my enjoyment, you completely ignored!

Paulosaxo - mid table challenging every now and then.

Celtic fans are allowed to gloat but don't think
Anyone is really entitled to take the high ground here..

TJ (gulp) has a point..
Think Northwind's comparison is a valid one..
Just cos something's part of your history, doesn't necessarily mean you should be proud of it/sing about it.
And that goes for both sides btw.. IRA, UDF whatever, folk getting bombed or gunned down as they walk across the street- surely you'd just want to put that behind you and move on.
But, there's a small minority who apparently dont, and would rather celebrate it.

TJ (gulp) has a point..

~Really Seosamh 77 - lets see
1) You are proud to sing a song at a football natch that is known as a sectarian song
2)recent legislation has made it an offence to sing sectarian songs at football matches

So - when did you last go to a game?

~Really Seosamh 77 - lets see
1) You are proud to sing a song at a football natch that is known as a sectarian song
2)recent legislation has made it an offence to sing sectarian songs at football matches

So - when did you last go to a game?

Next game will be, the last ever huns game!

Ps yes unrepentant fenian bastard is how i would term it. Now go away and stop bringing this shit up every time this subject gets mentioned. You look like a fool. There is a different perspective from the British one, not that I expect you to understand.

So you are now a self confessed sectarian bigot. Nice. I grew up in Glasgow and met folk like yo then. Bunch of fuds the were then and the rotten remnants remain so today. Fud

So you are now a self confessed sectarian bigot. Nice. I grew up in Glasgow and met folk like yo then. Bunch of fuds the were then and the rotten remnants remain so today. Fud

Hypothetical question for Rangers fans - If the L-bomb hits, as seems an increasingly strong possibility, and the curtain falls on 140 eventful years, what will you do?

Throw your weight behind whatever Zombie Rangers outfit emerges from the wreckage, bearing in mind it will be a completely new club, shorn of all official history and tradition, which will have to start from scratch and likely endure a few years in the wilderness before regaining anything like its former vigour?

Support another big/wee/juniors/English/European team?

Pack in fitba altogether?

Speaking as a weegie of irish descent who is agnostic and has attended many an old firm game. Each side of the Old Firm is as bad as the other. Union flag imagery and thuggery is matched by rebel songs and tricolour waving in equal measure. Healthy sporting rivalry was lost long long ago on the significant minority of vocal bigots. Old Firm football has log been a vehicle for the troubles and it is played out weekly by nasty nasty small minded men singing their evil chants about being knee deep in blood or transported from their fields. Take a look at the ferries and buses transporting the Irish contingent away from their local clubs across the North Channel to Scotland. Whatever justification the imported and home grown muppets think they have for singing such nonsense at a sporting fixture is so laughably risible that the only conclusion that may reasonably be drawn is that old firm football in the west of Scotland is a sport hijacked by drunken idealism.

Natural rivalry is healthy, the Old Firm still has a hope of sharing sharp, edgy banter but pissheads, particularly in Rangers Risk and the Green Brigade take it so far beyond the norms of sport. Stadium violence is minimal but the knock on effect elsewhere on impressionable yoofs and angry husbands after these games is enormous, ask any polis or A&E nurse.

Those who perpetuate the hatred under the spurious guise of heritage and history are deluded. Sport is about skill, excellence and winning within the rules. Bigoted thuggery shouldn't feature but sadly overshadows Scotland's two most successful teams.

Rangers FC has suffered terrible mismanagement. An element of fiscal punishment is expected but the SFA have been astonishingly short sighted in their increasingly punitive approach to Rangers predicament. Enduring sporting rivalry needs balance, killing Rangers will tip this for good, harming smaller clubs reliant on visitor takings at the turnstile. Celtic will have no realistic rival for years. How long before boredom cripples the scottish game?

That is the best post on this thread by far. Well said downshep

The trouble with the bigots is that they can 't except N Irland has moved on from the troubles. They need the mob mentality to fill what ever sad void they have in their lives. I used to go to rangers game as a young teen and sang anti catholic songs. Two tours of the provence opened my eyes to the utter crap it was/ is. I now have a son who supports celtic ( l,blame his mum) who would like to watch an oldfirm game, l would like to go as well but will not subject him to that kind of bile. It is long past the time the bigots from the central belt caught up with the rest of the UK and filed the irish troubles to, history

Very good points downshep, however SS77 has already informed us that the songs are not in any way bigoted and indeed are used to cover up the real problems in Scottish society. So you must be wrong.

Oh hang on he gets a mention;

Those who perpetuate the hatred under the spurious guise of heritage and history are deluded.

I will ask again, explain this different perspective you allude to SS77...I would like to see it. My postgrad (Mphil,Dundee)was on the impact of Immigrants and Exiles to and from Scotland 1830-1930. I was interested in this subject as I come from part of Dundee once known as Tipperary because of it's high number of Irish immigrants who came for work in the mills. I had always thought of myself as being quite knowledgeable about the subject of population movement to Scotland, but you claim to have a perspective I don't and couldn't understand...

Crikey, seosham has been long established as a bellend so why are we still wasting breath on him?

Brilliant post Downshep , Seosamh77 once again you sound like A complete tool. I remember a previous thread where you shared your small minded sectarian ideals.(think It was one about rememberance day).
Despite not liking the 90 minute bigots on both side I can almost understand why they get sucked into the banter , chanting etc. Its pretty much what most football fans do but just with a ugly sectarian edge.
Its the full time bigots who constantly 24-7 go on about the pope / queen and have no other outlet / angle in there lifes but to preach hate about there rivals I despise.
To be honest Im surprised this thread hasn't been pulled as 'Althepal' started a serious post and as he feared himself It has developed into a full scale mud slinging mess.
For the record as much as I despise the old firm I do feel sorry for the genuine lifelong supporter who has to watch his team go to the wall.

Finally, some sense and perspective from a few folk- actually, the majority of folk.
It's a shame there's still one or two idiots on here that show their stupidity and hide behind history and heritage.
It's clear how the majority of folk on here regard them and their outdated ideals.
Totally agree with, and happy to see the posts above from downshep onwards.

Some great posts above, well done.

I have a problem with this though:

Throw your weight behind whatever Zombie Rangers outfit emerges from the wreckage, bearing in mind it will be a completely new club, shorn of all official history and tradition

The club isnt a company, and so, cant be liquidated. The company can, but the company 140 years old anyway, the club was there before, and it'll be around after. I'd continue to support it, even if it had to work back up from division 3.

Is this sectarian bickering still going on? Hurray! There will always be one place on the internet where its 1873.

Well done 🙄

Is this sectarian bickering still going on? Hurray! There will always be one place on the internet where its 1873.

Well done

What bickering? I see somebody with unacceptable views being dug up. Much as you would like to paint all of Scottish football in that light it isn't the case. Maybe you should stick to the thread about Liverpool and Manchester taunting one another about Munich/H'bro.