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So the muppets who went on Facebook urging people to riot have had their 4 year sentences upheld by the appeal court.
So what happens if I start a Facebook group urging social uprising and revolution,including takeover of the Stock Exchange,banks and financial institutions without compensation and a wholesale redistribution of wealth ( along the lines of the old labour manifesto!) .
Will I go to jail?


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:27 pm
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Yes.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:28 pm
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Suck it and see.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:29 pm
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No.

Unless people take you seriously and it starts to happen. [crosses fingers and wishes you luck/]


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:55 pm
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i'm not sure i approve.

until they have acutally commited a physical offence, i dont think anyone should be charged. What happened to free speech?

same goes for that chumpp in scotland who got sent away for posting things like "i hope all celtic fans die"

bit extreme i know, but he is allowed to have his opinion surely?


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:57 pm
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yeah but i bet it gave some geriatric daily mail readers a hard-on for the 1st time in many years


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 9:59 pm
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What happened to free speech?

It never existed....


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:01 pm
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conspiring to offend, attempted murder - no physical act. So thats just extreme expression?


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:02 pm
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matches for sale.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:06 pm
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What happened to the guy who tweeted (apparently jokingly) that he was gonna blow up an airport cos it was closed?
Think there was a big campaign to raise money for his defense?


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:07 pm
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Will I go to jail?

Not a chance. It is an important aspect of keeping up the pretence that the society we live in is a [i]real[/i] democracy, that all political points of view must, without exception, be tolerated - no matter how hostile they might be to the existing social order.

It is this illusion of democracy, along with heavy marketing, which keeps the masses suitably docile and compliment. They will certainly not risk shattering it all by restricting certain political points of views. And they are perfectly comfortable and secure in the knowledge that should things go pear-shaped and turn ugly, the army will step in......so there's simply no need for it.

Locking up looters gets you votes, locking up lefties gets you in trouble - best only do it if absolutely necessary.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:15 pm
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social uprising and revolution,including takeover of the Stock Exchange,banks and financial institutions without compensation and a wholesale redistribution of wealth

Is that what you're suggesting on this public forum?


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 10:18 pm
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Lord Judge does seem to have a fairly paranoid opinion of social media sites...

TBH, I don't agree with the sentencing at all here. Not that I'm in favour of rioting, but realistically this was never going to incite a riot. It's like walking up to a crowd of strangers and saying "Right chaps, let's rob a bank"- you'd never end up in court for that because there's no likelihood of any banks getting robbed. Obviously it's not a requirement that the plan has to come to fruition, but there has to be some credible claim that it [i]might[/i] have done.

I'd consider it an offence more or less on the level of kids walking down the high street singing "Let's go *ing mental"- irritating, and moronic, but not actually a precursor to going *ing mental.


 
Posted : 18/10/2011 11:07 pm