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Doesn't sound good. 😕
That sounds bad. 🙁
Can someone be lucky twice and not only survive but recover from such accidents?
He's got form.
He's okay. Fractured knee.
"The cause of the crash is unknown and is being investigated." ... err, being a dick with his mates shooting that stupid show.
Interestingly an electric super car, up in flames.
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He climbed out of that by himself! Lucky bloke.
err, being a dick
Is this a reported fact or conjecture?
Why is doing a hill climb being a dick ?
How the heck does an electric car burst in to flames?
Think that will buff out?
How the heck does an electric car burst in to flames?
In much the same way as phone batteries, laptop batteries and cheap Chinese chargers.
What car was it anyway?
EDIT: ignore that. Says in the sky link.
How the heck does an electric car burst in to flames?
the same way a samsung note bursts into flames
Well not quite the same way- bit bigger.
Every time I've got a dead lipo I like to explode it, it helps keep a healthy respect for them.
Good job it wasn't a hybrid like my car then with the fuel tank next to the batteries 😯
Harry_the_Spider - Member
Is this a reported fact or conjecture?
Just mockery 😉
He's okay, they're idiots, it's the Internet, can mock.
Though speculatively, I wouldn't be surprised if they were attempting a daft stunt.
Probably the only thing that'll happen on TGT that wasn't scripted.
Bloke enjoys driver cars and makes a living out of it, then has an accident ?
Heal well and do what you love doing I say.
Hot / Damaged Electric cars catch on fire just like Hot / Damaged ICE powered ones. The difference is generally they take significantly longer to do so after any impact, so the occupants have a better chance of getting out!
(also worth noting the no1 cause of automotive fires after accidents is actually brake fluid spilling onto hot components (brakes / exhaust etc) because it is less volatile than gasoline and hence doesn't just immediately evaporate away to vapour)
Video on here. Just catches the moment he loses the back end, from a fair distance. Stops before you see any impact as the camera pans away.
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crash is unknown and is being investigated." ... err, being a dick with his mates shooting that stupid show.
So to extrapolate from that, anyone taking part in any form of motorsports is being a dick, then?
I mean, Nick Mason stuffed his McLaren into a tyre wall while doing a demo lap at Goodwood, so he was clearly being a dick, his daughter rolled her Austin A30 during practice for a classic car race, so that was obviously dickish behaviour...
Deary me.
CountZero - Member
So to extrapolate from that, anyone taking part in any form of motorsports is being a dick, then?
Nope, just Clarkson, May & Hammond.
I'm taking the 'p' here in a light hearted way, yes in the knowledge he walked away from it (and yes, seriously, I'm glad he's okay).
It's a "lads" show about a bunch of guys having a laugh mucking about in cars doing mostly stupid stunts and are likely to have a crash from time to time. They take the 'p' out of each other anyway and I'm sure they will over this.
£2 million price tag , Hammond you bell end! Glad it doesnt sound to bad, that thing fair shifted up that hill though.
So to extrapolate from that, anyone taking part in any form of motorsports is being a dick, then?
Maybe it was a joke - you know, like on Top Gear.
Meh.
He's not even a real hamster FFS.
time to watch some Stewart Lee
I hope he is ok, the vrash sounded pretty nasty. He should realise where his limitations lie. We all find our limit and hopefully we do so without killing or seriously injuring ourselves.
He should realise where his limitations lie. We all find our limit and hopefully we do so without killing or seriously injuring ourselves
That's the trouble with motorsport, I used to compete in hillclimbs and in finding your limit sometimes you have to go over it which sometimes you'll get away with and other times you won't.
People like pushing the limits, where's the fun in getting to the top safely every time 😉
Maybe it was a joke - you know, like on Top Gear.
Nah, not nearly forced, or racist, enough for a (JC era) Top Gear...
kenneththecurtain - Member
Probably the only thing that'll happen on TGT that wasn't scripted.
What's the shows rating figures?
Those dramatic pictures of the mangled burned out wreck will get some headlines ...
He should realise where his limitations lie. We all find our limit and hopefully we do so without killing or seriously injuring ourselves.
Those two things are unrelated. we all exceed our limits now and again, but generally get away with it. He didn't in this case. That's just unlucky, although clearly the penalty for failure in motorsport is often going to be higher than in cycling.
That looked to go very light on the arse end as he turned in slightly to the right.
Lots of people on FB querying why an electric car should catch fire, one even thinking it had a hidden petrol engine in it!
Batteries have horrendous amounts of stored energy in them. We use 12V180 Ampere Hour batts for standby power at work. Manufacturers warning labels state currents in excess of 1000A can be liberated in the event of a direct short. This is more than enough to make the end of a screwdriver or spanner disappear in a bright blue flash and spray of hot steel and lead.
I'm guessing that car has a top speed of over 200, maybe a range of 200 miles and weighs 1-2 tonnes. That'll be a BIG battery. The car was subjected to a beyond manufactures warranty shock/load so some wiring could've failed leading to a large short circuit or the battery itself could've failed mechanically inside leading to short circuit. Or a combination of both.
Either way horrific amounts of electricity would've flowed possible battery thermal runaway as well, leading to massive temperature rises and fire.
Might take a bit of time to get going but really doesn't like stopping until the electricity has discharged and don't try pouring water on it!
We had a 270V 150Ah bank (40 big 12V batts in series and parallel) catch fire, due to old age and poor maintenance. Hobby Fire Brigade turned up crow barred the cabinet open and had hose in hole they had made when our Rapid Response guy turned up and shouted at them. They pointed to the circuit breakers on the local AC distribution panel in the room which they'd switched off stating it was all off and safe so they could apply water. RR had blazing argument with them at this point advising that you cannot turn batteries off and do you really want to be putting water on 270V DC! Luckily they relented and used powder to suppress the flames till the electricity discharged.
Ming the Merciless - MemberLots of people on FB querying why an electric car should catch fire, one even thinking it had a hidden petrol engine in it!
Batteries have horrendous amounts of stored energy in them. We use 12V180 Ampere Hour batts for standby power at work. Manufacturers warning labels state currents in excess of 1000A can be liberated in the event of a direct short. This is more than enough to make the end of a screwdriver or spanner disappear in a bright blue flash and spray of hot steel and lead.
I'm guessing that car has a top speed of over 200, maybe a range of 200 miles and weighs 1-2 tonnes. That'll be a BIG battery. The car was subjected to a beyond manufactures warranty shock/load so some wiring could've failed leading to a large short circuit or the battery itself could've failed mechanically inside leading to short circuit. Or a combination of both.
Either way horrific amounts of electricity would've flowed possible battery thermal runaway as well, leading to massive temperature rises and fire.
Might take a bit of time to get going but really doesn't like stopping until the electricity has discharged and don't try pouring water on it!
We had a 270V 150Ah bank (40 big 12V batts in series and parallel) catch fire, due to old age and poor maintenance. Hobby Fire Brigade turned up crow barred the cabinet open and had hose in hole they had made when our Rapid Response guy turned up and shouted at them. They pointed to the circuit breakers on the local AC distribution panel in the room which they'd switched off stating it was all off and safe so they could apply water. RR had blazing argument with them at this point advising that you cannot turn batteries off and do you really want to be putting water on 270V DC! Luckily they relented and used powder to suppress the flames till the electricity discharged.
So basically, what you are saying is that the car is powered by witch craft?
Surely Faiiry Dust
Pigface - MemberSurely Faiiry Dust
Well now that you mention it have seen quite a few Fairy Dust vehicles on the roads.
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I didn't realise he was back with the beeb 😕
to be fair the DM is usually far further back in time , with its views, than that mistake
I think we should be pleased they have heard of top gear and possibly even the new television device 😉
Well in fairness he's known for Top Gear.
I'm more interested in what a stress busting pullout is.
Shouldn't that headline be:
BloJo stuffs Maybot
I'm more interested in what a stress busting pullout is.
Something to do with the head massage I guess.
Ming the Merciless
Lots of people on FB querying why an electric car should catch fire, one even thinking it had a hidden petrol engine in it!Batteries have horrendous amounts of stored energy in them. We use 12V180 Ampere Hour batts for standby power at work. Manufacturers warning labels state currents in excess of 1000A can be liberated in the event of a direct short. This is more than enough to make the end of a screwdriver or spanner disappear in a bright blue flash and spray of hot steel and lead.
I'm guessing that car has a top speed of over 200, maybe a range of 200 miles and weighs 1-2 tonnes. That'll be a BIG battery. The car was subjected to a beyond manufactures warranty shock/load so some wiring could've failed leading to a large short circuit or the battery itself could've failed mechanically inside leading to short circuit. Or a combination of both.
Either way horrific amounts of electricity would've flowed possible battery thermal runaway as well, leading to massive temperature rises and fire.
Might take a bit of time to get going but really doesn't like stopping until the electricity has discharged and don't try pouring water on it!
We had a 270V 150Ah bank (40 big 12V batts in series and parallel) catch fire, due to old age and poor maintenance. Hobby Fire Brigade turned up crow barred the cabinet open and had hose in hole they had made when our Rapid Response guy turned up and shouted at them. They pointed to the circuit breakers on the local AC distribution panel in the room which they'd switched off stating it was all off and safe so they could apply water. RR had blazing argument with them at this point advising that you cannot turn batteries off and do you really want to be putting water on 270V DC! Luckily they relented and used powder to suppress the flames till the electricity discharged.
It's too early to say if the fire was caused by a primary HV system loss of integrity from impact forces. Remember, a car driven at racing speeds has heat in a lot of components (like the brakes!) and after an impact, fires can start from a lot of sources (for example, those hot brake discs setting fire to the composite inner wheel arch liners for example.....)
It's fairly clear from the photos that the main structure of the car is intact, and the actual impact wasn't too extreme, just a typical "taking off the corners" kinda shunt. The issue with coming to a rest upside down is driver egress, although in this case it seems RH was able to extract himself from the car. (the merc SLS with gull wing doors has pyrotechnically deploy-able doors for this very reason!)
for example, those hot brake discs setting fire to the composite inner wheel arch liners for example.....)
Yup and as mentioned earlier in the thread good old brake fluid.
I'm more interested in what a stress busting pullout is.
Probably a DUP policy launch.