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Schools up here been back for 5 weeks now, attendance across Scotland on wednesday was 92%.

Nearer 80% here.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 11:22 am
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Not School but University. Group of lecturers met up for a Team meeting pre-term in the building (without permission) No social distancing. You can guess the rest. One tested positive, whole team has to self isolate and work out how to deliver to students on-line. Fortunately, this was before any student contact. There has been a "WTF" reaction from colleagues. Idiots.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 11:25 am
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Scotland has less covid


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 12:31 pm
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48% of my class this morning off after a positive test for one of them - a rather conspicuous 4m diameter circle of empty seats.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 12:35 pm
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2 weeks in and there have been positive tests in 3 primary and 1 secondary school in my town already.

Are you surprised? It is bound to happen unfortunately - school kids aren't immune from the virus and it is going to be quite commonplace, especially in regions that currently have high infection rates.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 12:46 pm
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Confirmed case in sons primary


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 5:23 pm
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Are you surprised? It is bound to happen unfortunately – school kids aren’t immune from the virus and it is going to be quite commonplace, especially in regions that currently have high infection rates

True but the local authority has one of the lowest infection rates the country.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 5:32 pm
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True but the local authority has one of the lowest infection rates the country.

Same here, 2 confirmed in local schools in an area with very low levels.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 5:51 pm
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First week back, it’s all about the holidays, not the level of local infection. Two weeks of asking people to stay local before the return to school buildings might have been useful. As the term gets going, then it’s all about local cases.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 5:54 pm
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Yep schools effects will be seen in a week or 2 now.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 6:05 pm
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Dept of 9 staff. 3 tests carried out all negative. That's one dept mind and we don't know across the school due to policy I'm not allowed to talk about or even mention.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 7:27 pm
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That’s one dept mind and we don’t know across the school due to policy I’m not allowed to talk about or even mention.

More and more staff at my school walking around coughing, I know one had a negative test but the lack of info and increasing stress is going to see a melt down somewhere!!


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 8:00 pm
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Yep schools effects will be seen in a week or 2 now.

Or now in Scotland...


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 8:20 pm
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No names, no pack drill, but we've now had a positive test in one year group.
PHE have told the whole year group to isolate for 2 weeks + tutor and a couple of TAs.


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 8:31 pm
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PHE have told the whole year group to isolate for 2 weeks + tutor and a couple of TAs.

That seems more appropriate tbh. The secondary near me that had a case only had 20 told to isolate, turns out the kid hadnt been to school yet!


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 9:09 pm
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No positives for us yet a week and a half in (a week with the whole school back), but relatively large numbers of students absent waiting for test results (5 or 6 in my year group so 30 or so in the whole school). Only one staff member in the same boat so far. We serve a deprived community in an 'enhanced' local authority and border onto an area of concern so I think we're lucky so far...

Can't see us getting through another week without a positive case somewhere...


 
Posted : 11/09/2020 11:55 pm
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Had a good chat with my union today who said staff and students absolutely can wear masks during lessons according to section 44 of the health and safety act. The law protects us so we can wear PPE using our own judgement. Since the government states 2m distancing, or 1m+; this means when you have to get closer (less than 2m) to a student you should be using PPE. Not just washing hands. They said they will support me if my college asks me to remove my mask. Not planning on wearing it all the time but will when I cant keep 2m from everyone.

To the parents who dont work in schools and colleges, your kids are being exposed to hundreds of other kids. The bubble system is ignored in our place and there is no enforcement of social distancing. I've witnessed some staff not care and have a 1 to 1 chat with students less than 1m away with no PPE or shielding.


 
Posted : 13/09/2020 7:15 pm
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No explosion of cases in Scottish schools it would appear.
Thankfully.


 
Posted : 13/09/2020 9:02 pm
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No explosion of cases in Scottish schools it would appear.
Thankfully.

I thought cases in Scotland were on the rise? Might not be showing up in schools but the kids could be spreading the virus to parents etc.


 
Posted : 13/09/2020 11:20 pm
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Not planning on wearing it all the time but will when I cant keep 2m from everyone.

I know of one teacher taking this approach, and been challenged by their head for doing so. And I know a teacher at another school who has had complaints from parents for not wearing a mask when working with pupils and less than 2m from them. Teachers are stuck, not being able to do right. Everyone’s interpretation of what should be happening in schools is different, which is no surprise when national guidelines are open to interpretation. And then you get ministers saying that our schools are “Covid safe”… how?


 
Posted : 13/09/2020 11:29 pm
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Teachers are stuck, not being able to do right.

Normal!


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 7:24 am
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I had a robust discussion with line management. They were saying we were making schools covid safe, they would not admit that we were just reducing risk. I know that they were just towing the party line but that's not acceptable. The high heid yins are surrounded, as in a lot of things, by yes men/people who don't questions.

So parents and kids hear safe therefore don't understand the silly wipe down/mask/other rules.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 7:40 am
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No explosion of cases in Scottish schools it would appear.
Thankfully.

I thought cases in Scotland were on the rise? Might not be showing up in schools but the kids could be spreading the virus to parents etc.

Just a thought, but if the evidence says that most spread is currently via social interactions and not in schools - hence the rule of six - whyTF don't they produce some data to back up the decisions?


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 9:18 am
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Sat in my room waiting for tutor group to arrive, teacher next door coughing a lot, has he been tested, I dont know. Kids walking about coughing, have they been tested, I dont know. Its quite stressful tbh and I'm a fit healthy person who isnt overly worried.

Kid in tutor group off with "chesty cough, not covid" have they been tested? Doubt it unless they did it and gotvresults over weekend


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 9:43 am
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Son of teacher in school off with a "cough". Said teacher in school.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 9:44 am
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First positive Covid test at my Son's school, it's to be expected really, it's a huge school.

Although they're being very coy about it, Son reports that they're now enforcing mask rules, bubbles etc and not just 'encouraging' them and they're distributing the masks they said they'd distribute when they first went back.

Thankfully the R rate etc is still very low in our area so there's a chance we might just pull this off.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 11:04 am
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I'm wearing a mask if I move among the students in class, but removing it when I'm teaching from the front. I'm staying at the front as much as possible.

We were on masks in corridors anyway.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 11:30 am
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To add to the first KS3 pupil, now we've had a positive test in Yr11, so they're out for 2 weeks. Arse.

Most frustrating and anger inducing thing? Both kids (unrelated families) had been sent into school by parents after they'd had tests done, and the school was only informed when the tests came back positive. ****ing idiots!


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 9:47 pm
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Yep, same in my wife's school, parents sent kids in despite there being confirmed cases at home and kids showing symptoms. Years 9 and 10 now home for 14 days as well as 1 year 7 class, plus teachers. Schools are going to close by default unless something changes.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 10:33 pm
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Most frustrating and anger inducing thing? Both kids (unrelated families) had been sent into school by parents after they’d had tests done

Similar with our school, two year groups now sent home to self isolate for 14 days because kids sent to school when someone in the household had symptoms.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 10:36 pm
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I’ll leave others to comment on this. Personally, I’m fuming about it…

https://twitter.com/neupresident/status/1317908976491761664?s=21


 
Posted : 18/10/2020 10:44 pm
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My year 9 daughter has had another kid test positive in her year group today.
Last month she had to isolate as she was in the same classroom as another kid tested positive.
I can only see the numbers increasing.
Half term can’t come soon enough.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 10:40 pm
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It’s skwarkbox though, so take with a tonne of salt.

https://fullfact.org/health/schools-contact-tracing-not-escalate/


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 10:58 pm
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Seen some reporting that schools are now being advised by the DfE not to report further positive cases in a school to them after the first one.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 10:58 pm
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From our local experience, the schools are left to identify pupils who have been in close contact with the one who tests positive, and then tells them to isolate. At my daughter's school, four cases in a year group meant it was easier to send the whole year group home.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:05 pm
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Is these fake?


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:14 pm
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Yr7 to 11 is a worrying figure.
The yr12 to 24 is stoodents and well reported on.
Hmmm


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:33 pm
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Is Year 7-11 due to school, or outside school? Other youth activities/sports, hanging around with mates, generally being a teenager kind of stuff.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:40 pm
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Other youth activities/sports

Don't think much of this has started up yet? Our school is rigorously running bubbles, but students within them are in close contact in classrooms and corridors - it's inevitable. As a member of staff walking across site it's impossible to keep over 1m at times.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 7:57 am
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Don’t think much of this has started up yet?

Scouts, BB's, Bike Club, Air Cadets, Football, Golf are all up and running here.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 8:54 am
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Is Year 7-11 due to school, or outside school? Other youth activities/sports, hanging around with mates, generally being a teenager kind of stuff.

Straw clutching? where else are they sat right next to loads of other kids in a poorly ventilated room for an hour?


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 9:07 am
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Excellent Twitter thread comparing the government’s plans and stated approach when schools returned, to what is actually happening:

https://twitter.com/tweetsbyames/status/1331327502715924480?s=21


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 1:33 am
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Straw clutching? where else are they sat right next to loads of other kids in a poorly ventilated room for an hour?

You can't catch the virus by sitting in an enclosed room... the statistics are clear... 100% of positive tests are made AFTER testing hence why our schools are being told to strongly advise against testing and continue to exclude kids who test negative despite being told not to get tested.

The virus can be best controlled by NOT testing.... especially in kids who are likely to be asymptomatic. 2 dead vulnerable carers from COVID-19 at a local school already but that's a small price to pay to control the spread of testing and testing leads to more positive cases.


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 9:37 am
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Straw clutching? where else are they sat right next to loads of other kids in a poorly ventilated room for an hour?

Nope, not straw clutching, but a trustee of a youth organisation with serious doubts that just because we were allowed to do face to face activities (prior to lockdown 2) that didn't mean that we should.


 
Posted : 25/11/2020 10:00 am
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