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Ive finally succumbed and said yes to a dog after relentless pressure from the gf. The question now is what type of dog? Firstly is it a good idea to go for a proper pedigree, does it give any guarentee of the dogs temprament etc or is it just asking for trouble with regard to dodgy hips etc since the gene pool is likely to be shallower than a Norfolk broad.

With regards to breed I want something that will be happy to left at home during the day, but I want a dog that is able to come out for decent length runs, so has decent endurance. At the minute a working cocker is coming out tops but Im worried it may struggle running for any great length. Anyone any experience on taking these running? I basically want a springer or a collie but realise this is not realistic!

It also cant be too big as our house aint massive. Im not keen on greyhounds/whippet type things either.

Anyone recommend any more leftfield breeds?


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:39 pm
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the friendliest breed around
labrador
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and the most spoilt.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:41 pm
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Jack Russell?

We have one and he is small, clean, clever, very loyal, can run all day long, and not at all snappy or aggressive.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:42 pm
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"happy to left at home during the day"
prob not a working dog for you then especially a spanial


 
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My mother has working cockers, dont be fooled about it being small so it wont be too active. I would say he is more active than my springer but he is a fair bit older.

They are very clever and need loads of mental stimulation, she leaves hers for no more than 3 hrs at the most and even then he can be a nightmare after that.

From what you have said I wouldn't recommend them for you. They are used as sniffer dogs just like springers as they are so excitable and enthusiastic.

I got a rescue springer who was 5 he can be left for about 6hrs max - normally he is let out at lunch time. He runs/bikes with me but being that bit older he has lost most of the madness younger ones have.

I read on a spaniel forum - dont be fooled that a WC is like a mini springer as they are normally more active just in a small bundle.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:48 pm
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or a lab, in the pup years............or a lab then.


 
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A Lab would be good but some can be massive and some small so see both parents. Also check hip scores.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:51 pm
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Dobermans are happy to be left alone. Don't be put off by the hardman(dog) image. Without the cropped ears and tail they're just like any other soppy looking hound. Short hair too (which unless you like furballs rolling through your house like tumble weeds is a big plus).
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Posted : 12/01/2010 7:51 pm
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jack russell every time for me. they do drops and everything 🙂


 
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with regards to breed I want something that will be happy to left at home during the day

Poor thing would get very lonely - they are sociable animals right?

the friendliest breed around
Golden Retriever

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Posted : 12/01/2010 7:54 pm
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Don't get a dog.

Leaving a dog indoors all day is a wrongun. Sorry mate but there it is.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:56 pm
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Dobermanns are beautiful dugs.
I have an english bull terrier mongrel thing from the rescue home.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:57 pm
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jack russell. i've had 3 over the last 20 years, absolutly ace, leave 'em at home, they're small enough to have a dog flap to get outside, pick 'em up if they get into trouble, playful, hardy, inquisitave, intelligent and trainable when it suits them!

i never trust any dog with children, pedigree doesn't guarantee anything, as for temprement? i think they pick more up from the owner than what they have bred into them.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 7:58 pm
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I want something that will be happy to left at home during the day, but I want a dog that is able to come out for decent length runs, so has decent endurance. At the minute a working cocker is coming out tops

oh!


Ive finally succumbed and said yes to a dog after relentless pressure from the gf.

oh! again.

things to consider.
how long will it be left each day?
the fact that it is being left at all should rule out a puppy, so you are best off starting with the local rescue. You could check out breed specific rescues if a particular breed takes your fancy.
an adult dog, rescued, will guaranteed need a settling in period, where it would be best if it was not left unaccompanied for long periods. You could get round this, to some extent, with crate training and a serious exercise regime for the dog (so it is exercised/fed/tired when left)

totally ignoring your needs and circumstances i heartily recommend a dobermann.
edit: dont make it run all day, and as they get very attached they easily suffer seperation anxiety


 
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Its got to be a Border Terrier, can run all day long (originally bred for hunting)great with kids/family etc, can stay outside all day even winter as they grow 2 coats and they are tough as old boots!


 
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Carbon,

Spot on about not leaving working cockers alone, any more than an hour left with his own thoughts and Tigger (I Know) is a nightmare. If I go out to the car for 5 minutes he greets me as if we havnt seen each other for days, shoe or childs toy in mouth.

Wouldnt change him though, he will run all day and is great with everyone


 
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also... like you i got talked into it 20 years ago. i agreed but i wanted a small playful dog, wasn't bothered about breed but liked terriers.

2 days after i said yes we were at ncdl (now dogs trusts), we had three that loosly met the criteria, one didn't like men, one had three legs and one was a snappy jack russell who we came away with (no home checks in those days!), it was sort of spur of the moment but we had him for forteen years and never regretted one moment.


 
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Actually Borders are a good shout - they can run and dont mind being left for periods. They have a tendency to do off after rabbits etc though.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:08 pm
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There's lots of good eating on a St Bernard 😯 😯 😉


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:09 pm
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Border Terrier or if you are slightly fruity- Westhighland Terrier 😀


 
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Golden Retriever Very friendly dog and FAB around
kids and loves the woods and Mud


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:20 pm
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Wow that was quick. Thanks for all the comments.

Yeah I am a bit concerned about whether we should get a dog at all with it being left alone all the time.

We have looked after a golden retriever before and she didnt mind being alone during the day so maybe a lab or a golden retriver maybe possible. or possibly an older rescue springer/ cocker

Ton- is youre lab left alone during the day?

Im not keen on terriers or Jack Russels but may have to learn to like them.

and SOOBalias its to protect my macho image that I pretend Im being forced into getting a dog!


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:21 pm
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Working Cocker, quite happy on our normal 12 mile dog run, or even climbing hills!


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:23 pm
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Another Doberman, not sure about leaving all day though:

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Prob be better off with something like a lurcher

Our greyhound:

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Posted : 12/01/2010 8:25 pm
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I would suggest a Lurcher, but you don't want a Greyhound/Whippet type dog. I have to say though that once you let a Lurcher in to your house (and on the sofa) you'll never want another breed. Although I bet most breed owners would say the same. You can get short haired, long haired. Smaller tumbler type to full on Deer/Greyhound crosses.

Depending on the parentage they don't need too much excercise, they're happy to be left alone too.

If fact the only problem is they spark so many conversations when your out walking with them it gets a bit tiresome.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:30 pm
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I want something that will be happy to left at home during the day

Don't get a dog. You can't turn them on and off when you want. They are living creatures that deserve better than being abandoned all day. It is a child substitute so you need to treat it properly - which does not include abandoning it all day.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:37 pm
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Lurcher deerhound here. Working stock and a bit of a mentalist TBH, as as Lee says check the parents out. Great temprement but full on - also not sure about how long she'd last on a bike ride - she's more 15 minutes of sprinting then back home to the sofa...

Not sure she'd take kindly to being left more than a couple of hours...so I have to echo lots of the comments above.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:39 pm
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leeW awesome pic!


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:40 pm
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Another Doberman, not sure about leaving all day though:

If we had a big house/land we'd also have a Doberman 😀


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 8:43 pm
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get this one

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Posted : 12/01/2010 8:43 pm
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that five days vid doesn't pull any punches - and fair enough i suppose


 
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Flat coated retreiver, best breed of dog !

I have had numerous breeds through my life, and i can honestly say that IMO the best breeds are the Flat coated retriever and the Dachshund.

Seriously do some research on them and you will see what an amazingly friendly, loving, easy going dog the Flatties are

We have a Flattie called charlie

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Posted : 12/01/2010 8:47 pm
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2nd lurchers. Don't be thinnist!


 
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Posted : 12/01/2010 8:51 pm
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+1 borders. We have two. Old ladies now who love the sofa. Although they love their walks, occasional days off aren't a problem.

A major plus - compared to almost every other non terrier breed - no health problems.

They are terriers though - they can be little thugs sometimes if they a big dog tries to boss them.


 
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I'd have to ask how long your planning to leave alone each time. Me and my gf got a right Heinz57 mix (think a bit of Boxer and possibly Parsons terrier). We got her at roughly 12months old from the Dogs Trust. I'm lucky and have a job where I can take her to work and go for walks at lunchtime, but she does get bored and has already taken to chewing the wiring loom in the back of the van. I wouldn't dare leave her for a full day in the house, it'd be trashed! But being part Boxer shes great when we go out on the bike and loves going out in the woods. Shes also got a fantastic character and we've no concerns about her being aggresive to anyone or anything.
I'd highly recommend a hybrid/mongrel, as you say for the limited gene pool that gives so many problems with pedigree breeding. Not that mongrels are a guarantee against problems, but it does theres less risk. Having said that, we're hoping one day to get a Lab.
Also think about costs, we reckon about £10-15 a week once you include food,insurance,vets etc. On that I'd recommend getting a dog from a Dogs Trust shelter, we paid £75 and included in that the dog has her full set of vaccines, microchip and speyed. You'll pay in excess of £500 for a pedigree Lab, and then you'll need all them things on top.
I don't know how long you and gf have been together, but also realize you'll be committing to anything up to possibly 20years of a dogs life.


 
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A retriever of some sort. Golden, lab, flattie etc. All are good dogs.

I would think carefully though if it's going to be left alone all day. I've got 2 goldens and they get antsy after a couple of hours.

All day every day seems a bit heartless IMO.


 
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Westies rock.. For little dogs they are great. Eric will quite happily walk for hours in the Lakes, as for Esme, she's only 6 months, but love thse hils so far...

Short haired, and don't molt. And small enough to throw in the bath when they are covered in mud.

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Posted : 12/01/2010 9:20 pm
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There is no problem whatsoever in leaving an adult dog alone all day, and if you have them from a pup they'll easily get use to it.

We got our Working Cocker (see prev post/picture) at 8 weeks old (June), we had a weeks holidays and then my wife came home lunchtimes for the next few weeks. He was alone mornings and afternoons. Then summer hols where he was left odd days.

We started with a pen (1m x 1m) with a cover, and under-cover. We then bought a full size walk-in cage (3m x 2m) with an insulated kennel inside. He spends days in here, and sleeps inside.

He has plenty of toys and is often walked by neighbours, plus obviously us and a weekly bike run. He also travels well.

I would totally recommend one, and they're good with kids too.


 
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A lurcher is what you want. Sleep all day when left alone, all dogs sleep most of the day if given enough exercise. Leaving them in a house is a bit of a strain though as the poor things cant have a shite or pee when they want. Ours has a kennel outside and seems happy enough.
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Posted : 12/01/2010 9:25 pm
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Similar thing. Other way round. I really wanted a dog and my wife didn't. We ended up getting a Pedigree Lab (long story) rather than a rescue. He was 4 months old when we had him, that pic is about 10 months after he'd just been done over by the "big dogs" on the communal walk 😉 Now he's 40kilos and quite large, so what you said about not wanting a big dog...

But Labs are ace, incredibly friendly, ace personality, always pleased to see you but I'd be worried about leaving them all day. He gets left 4 hours max I suppose (my wife doesn't work) and now he's coming up two doesn't eat shoes anymore 😉

Big committment tho. If you don't want one, I wouldn't get one. Ours is - kitch as it sounds - definitely part of the family and we've ended up doing more camping/different stuff for hols so we don't have to put him into kennels. So like I say, big committment.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 9:30 pm
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Working cockers will run all day.

I would also vote for a flat-coated retriever. They have a lovely nature and are great all round dogs. We've a flat-coat / setter cross and she has been great, but is now 12 and sadly lost her sight over Christmas, so running on my own now.


 
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i agree with dobermans - i have 3 bitches ,great dogs ,very intelligent


 
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Always had Boxers, fantastic dogs, got 2 bitches full of energy, stamina is great, brilliant clown like temperament not usually a bad bone in them. Superb with my kids as the boxers think they are kids too.

I work shifts so they are not alone "all" day just part days as one of us is in soon after. Boxers are real people dogs though and want to be involved in anything you are doing.


 
Posted : 12/01/2010 10:52 pm
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Labs for me every time.

I have had Monty since he was a few months old.

My best pal, pain in the a$$ all rolled into one.

He has swam in every bit of water he see's.

Done 20 odd munros (5 in one day a few years ago)

Trashed more christmas trees, raided more bins than I care to imagine.

But I would not change anything

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As others have said, a lurcher can be left on their own, but I would never advocate a working day, in my book that is too long. With regards to them accompanying you on the bike you need to be careful of the mix of that lurcher. We have had 4 so far (all rescue) and some have been great over a distance others not as they are much more sprint based.


 
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Forget it if your going to leave a dog alone all day,everyady.Thats just being completely selfish.Dogs are very social animals and thrive on companionship.Left along most dogs will take on antisocial inclinations and get up to mischief.There will always b those that dont agree but in general this is something to be taken in to consideration by anyone that loves dogs.


 
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We've got a Lab. Ronnie, got him 7 months ago from a rescue center ( aged 4 or 5)as his previous owner was single and working 12 hours a day so sadly didn't have time for him. he was left alone when she went to work.

When we got him he was fat and I mean fat and very unfit. His paws were quite soft so he didn't like walking on rough things or walking far.

Now he comes with me on little (up to the park or round the block) bike rides and he's lost loads of weight. He comes to work with me most days and cos he's so gentle quiet and placid he's welcomed into the office by my colleagues.

I think he'd have been the runt of the litter - the quiet one at the back of the cage being trampled on the other more boisterous puppies. Because of this though he's our perfect dog even though his breath smells.

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I strongly advise you visit your nearest Dogs' Trust, and be honest with them about your living arrangements (ie, dog being left alone all day).

They'll point you in the right direction.


 
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If you are planning on leaving any exercise loving dog at home all day be prepaired for it to want constant attention when you are home and lots and lots of exercies. To be honest if its going to be more than four hours a day I would actually advise you not to have a dog unless it has access to outside and a warm kennel to retreat to. I use a 'dog door' into the kitchen so the dogs have the run of inside and out and much of the outside comes in and it will always be wet and muddy. My two Cockers are at the age now that I am having to ease off on the exercise or they just flake out and sleep all day and all night and the bitch tends to develop sore pads and gets a bit creaky (saddly a poor immune system). Oh and dont forget spaniels tend to suffer from ear problems on and off no matter how rigid the ear cleaning practices are.
My only bug bear with foilk running their dogs alongside their bikes is -DONT FORGET THE DOGS FLUIDS!!!!!


 
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Hmmm...

I have a dog (half-husky, half-shepherd) aged 10 that we got from the Dogs Trust in Leeds. I'm a teacher and he gets left all day with the radio on and he's fine...but I specifically looked for a dog that had lived in that kind of environment prior to us getting him. In principle I agree with those who suggest that leaving a dog all day is wrong, especially a young dog. Aside from the fact that it will be destructive, seperation anxiety may manifest in other ways; sh*tting, barking all day, aggression towards other dogs etc.

If you want a loyal dog that'll run all day and love you to bits, go to your local Dogs Trust or rescue centre and get a older fit mongrel. None of the health problems that pedegree dogs suffer with, but all the fun. Spaniel/Terrier/Lab crosses are good for running all day. Greyhounds are sprinters and no good for riding alongside.

My dog is useless for anything cycling-related. Actually, my dog is useless for most things. Wouldn't trade him for anything though...


 
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Personally I wouldn't have a dog if it were to be left alone for too long. Mine gets left for around five hours per day and if it looks like I will be late home I get stressed out. Ask yourself, can you give a dog a good home and good life? It is amazing just how much of your time they can take up.

Some people leave their dogs at home for a full days work, come home and then go out all evening, then to bed, repeat. Must be a very lonely life for a dog in those circumstances. Also consider what will happen when you go on holiday etc


 
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Get yourself down the dog pound, plenty of dogs that need a loving home. Muts are great, you dont need a particular breed - you will know which one is right for you - its a very rewarding experience taking a broken dog into your home and seeing it develop evolve over the next months/years.


 
Posted : 05/02/2010 10:55 am
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We would never have got a dog at all if we both worked full time. I agree with others that its not fair to leave them alone that long.

As for the "relentless pressure" bit - you do know that having a dog isn't easy? They can be a total pain, making a mess, wrecking stuff, shitting on the carpet, stealing food and need to be taken out every day.
You wouldn't want to get any feeling of resentment towards your partner or the dog.


 
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