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Realistically, EU holidaying by late summer?

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We are booked for a long weekend in Rome at the end of May

No chance of that happening, and TBH I wouldn't want to go either.

We have a week in Lanzarote, 2nd week in July, given what you lot have said, that's looking ropey at best.

and Mrs V and myself have a 30th anniversary cruise around the Adriatic in early September, starting in Venice

Even that's sounding unlikely.

Well, never mind, UK touring on my Triumph Street Scrambler it is then 🙂


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 9:04 pm
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We will be in lockdown until end May, they will put schools back ASAP after that but will be essentially locked border and no specific int travel for a bit after that. Domestic holidays could be a go August onwards.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 9:23 pm
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2020 to be the year of remembering the beauty of your local area, rather than searching it out elsewhere.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 10:22 pm
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Yeah, we got 2 UK holidays booked and was planning a Mediterranean holiday. Cant see either happening and even if they do go ahead it certainly wont be a pop to the pub for some grub on a whim type holiday.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 10:28 pm
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So Emirates have today said they wont be restating scheduled flights until atleast July, I think they will be one of the first airlines to restart so ATM I'd say its getting less likely than more at the moment.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 10:37 pm
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Wondering when flights/tunnel/ferries will start up. Supposed to be going to UK at some point to sort out late dad's house and stuff, not much of a holiday but I can't put it off forever.
Hoping to get a few weeks' camping in late summer, Pyrenees or Coast - as mentioned above Spain is knackered if they don't get at least domestic tourism going.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 10:38 pm
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I have written off this year for foreign travel (I could be wrong mind you!). We have booked a week camping in September in Cornwall and I have taken advantage of the cheap Easyjet flights next Feb and villa bookings that need full payment 6 weeks before travel (10% deposit). If we are still in trouble then I am happy to lose the reasonably small outlay.

If we are still in the same situation then......


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 10:58 pm
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We’ve booked an air bnb for Morzine for the last 2 weeks of August. Paid half of it to date but also have annual insurance policy from pre-covid.

I was thinking it was 50/50 but reading this thread has put a dampener on that!


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:00 pm
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Friend has a wedding in Ibiza in September, we’re not expecting that to happen.
Like those above, I’m expecting no foreign travel in 2020.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:06 pm
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I assumed such nonsense results were excluded?

Only if the organiser selects them to be. If he doesn't use zp then it won't be

Our club is organising rides most nights. So tonight was laps of fan flats at Richmond. Lap hard lap easy. Hitting 50kph for a lap was vomit inducing. Proper over unders. Much better than doing them on your own in the garage


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:10 pm
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Realistically I think that travel within the UK will be restricted until a vaccine is found - travelling to China (Italy/Spain..) caused the problem in the first place and once travel opens up again, internationally or internally, I can see us on a second lockdown soon after!


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:10 pm
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Just to be clear. I replied to the zwift thread.....and it's put it in here. Where's dracs iPad when you need it. Forum works perfect they will have you know 🙂


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:12 pm
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Even if you do get to go (and I'd think that's unlikely until the autumn) will bars, restaurants, tourust attractions be open. I bet a lot won't reopen this year. We've been to Turkey a few times. Many of the restaurants employ people from other parts of the country, as well as many owners. Cant see many people bothering for a short season.


 
Posted : 21/04/2020 11:20 pm
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Maui from Canada in November... I'm very much doubting it now and have almost certainly missed the option to buy travel insurance assuming no issues with WestJet credit... But sweeping pilot layoffs could mean financial trouble ahead for the airline.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 12:18 am
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I have a conference/holiday booked for October in Colorado. I'm not hopeful - I can't see restitution of non-essential travel for a long time.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 12:33 am
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Spain villa booked end of July/August. I give it 10% chance of happening. Will feel lucky to get away in the UK, tbh. I think the opposite of the lockdown (lock up?) will be the opposite approach to the lockdown (wrap your head around that logic eh?)
I.e. no step change, but the gradual relinquishing of control, and monitoring how things are going as we relax.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 12:42 am
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Resigned to not going to my brother's wedding in Frankfurt in July. He doesn't think the wedding will take place anyway. And that's Germany. I'd be looking at next year optimistically for holiday travel...


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 12:54 am
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As per my previous post, I don't think my travel is particularly essential - but the ferries seem to be running so if France lifts restrictions on may 10th and UK follows a couple of weeks later, what's stopping me driving up in say late June? Not that I want to.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 1:20 am
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Originally booked for our usual fortnight in Rhodes for September the 2nd. Balance was due end of June. Have cancelled it, rather lose the £120 deposit than the other £980.
The money I'd saved will just be put towards next September.

I usually book it November so see what the situation is by then.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 2:20 am
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I am supposed to be taking 36 pupils and staff to Krakow the first week in September, can't see it happening.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 6:04 am
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We booked the family holiday to the canary islands at Christmas. Supposed to go at tbe end if July. I'm gently breaking the news to the kids...


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 7:23 am
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Even if you do get to go (and I’d think that’s unlikely until the autumn) will bars, restaurants, tourust attractions be open. I bet a lot won’t reopen this year

I’m not sure most people would like a socially distance based holiday tbh.

I think it would be more a change of home,so I could see a stay at someone else's home type of holiday being the new norm 🙂

And perhaps eating delivered restaurant meals instead of going out.

Probably the end of cheap holidays thou.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 7:56 am
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Our trip to Burgundy couldn't be more social distancing if it tried, we only see the bread shop staff and the pizza place staff. Although we do visit the local pool too..
But i'm still not expecting it to happen i admit.

Morzine even less likely i'd think.

It depends on how strict the UK lockdown is as to whether taking a UK holiday makes any sense at all. No point going 'away' for us if all the places to go out to are still closed.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 8:04 am
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I’m not even going to try and speculate.

We have a holiday booked early July. Prob won’t know until 2 weeks before


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 8:20 am
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Our June holiday in Dorset was postponed/cancelled by the operator a couple of weeks ago.
Have a 4 day break in Lisbon booked with the in-laws for end of September which I am not expecting to happen.
Plan for a trip out to Liguria in Nov is probably the most likely of all of them but I’m not banking on it.
We’ve SD loads of bookings for campsites cancelled too & the motorhome hasn’t moved from its storage site since January. Can’t even get to it at the moment as the site is shut and it’s hardly an essential journey so I’m expecting to have to replace the batteries before we can use it again. Glad it had a deep clean after our Jan holiday though!


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 8:39 am
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There are a few reports that the Canary Islands will be re-opening in August for domestic tourism, but only accepting foreign tourists from October. We've got flights booked for end of September so we may have to change our plans, especially if as mentioned there are quarantine restrictions on our return....


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 9:04 am
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I'm amazed that people are even thinking about it. Our flights to Spain and Armenia are not happening, I don't expect to be seriously considering going abroad till next year and that's with lots of ifs.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 9:51 am
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We were heading out to USA for a family holiday in summer holidays, few weeks to see some of the National Parks- airline is only offering credit, but stops flying to the UK from end August (Air NZ) so won't be much good to us. Hopeful as it gets closer then there'll be some acceptable compromise, quite a bit of money spent here.

There's also nearly 2k gone on school trips this term for the kids, which won't be taking place now- we've had an email saying the school has started trying to claim with insurance, but I'm not holding out too much hope- I'm wondering how schools insure these trips, wondering whether they use a specialist insurer that mightn't be able to cope financially with the situation.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:05 am
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I'm amazed people are so pessimistic but for the sake of my own health I am trying to sticking my head in the sand a bit on this whole thing. Hols booked in August and I'm remaining hopeful. 🙂


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:08 am
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I’m amazed people are so pessimistic realistic but for the sake of my own health I am trying to sticking my head in the sand a bit on this whole thing. Hols booked in August and I’m remaining hopeful. 🙂

There's a global pandemic going on, that of which we have no sight of a vaccine for in the short term, and all non essential travel is off the table. I can see why you think you'll get your holiday.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:11 am
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I’m wondering how schools insure these trips, wondering whether they use a specialist insurer that mightn’t be able to cope financially with the situation.

Can you not claim on your own insurance? genuine question, I've honestly no idea on this question. I very nearly canned my annual policy earlier this year as well, really glad I didn't now. I don't think I'll ever not have annual family holiday insurance again.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:13 am
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Not going anywhere I can't walk to until a vaccine is available.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:19 am
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We're booked in with White Room from the 11th July, I think there's naff all chance we'll be going but the Mrs is 'trying' to remain optimistic!

Oh, we're also supposed to be going to Budapest for a long weekend at the start of June with friends. We've already written that off, though hoping we might be able to move to next year. Non refundable hotel and Ryanair flights both booked by a mate. We have no insurance for it, doh!


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:23 am
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Morzine booked for early July, with whats happened some of our group would now be happier it was cancelled and could have some money back!

I cant see travel re opening until a vaccine is found.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:24 am
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Last night I received an email from the hotel I had booked in Majorca for early June, telling me they definitely won't be open then. I had already decided I wouldn't be going, but at least I am now of the hook for the hotel costs.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:34 am
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The plan was Perth, Australia for a family Christmas. Looks like they are handling the virus pretty well, just not sure they will be welcoming countries that are not in for holidays! On the bright side that holiday is definitely the equivalent of a new bike!!

I think the worry for everyone will be a second wave coinciding with the onset of winter and flu season.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:40 am
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Spain are winding down the restrictions by second half of May, so you never know! We've also got a France camp thing booked end August, but are not holding out for it. Depsoit is paid, but not the full amount thankfully as im not convinced insurers will pay out if travel restictions are lifted in the UK.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:41 am
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I would consider driving somewhere but I wouldn't sit in a plane for 3+ hours in the current circumstances.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:46 am
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I'm hoping to get to our place in N Wales at the end of July but who knows?!
I'm pretty sure that flying to the Med is out this year (much to my twins' disappointment as they were due to go in June).


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:46 am
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Here in France things are supposed to being gradually opened up from 11 May. Schools will start going back soon or immediately after that - youngest kids first.
I think the situation by the summer might not be too bad - any travel that can be done without getting too close to strangers should be ok, so driving should be fine. I suspect there will be checkpoints where they are checking temperatures etc. to avoid ill people travelling/make people thing about the risk a bit more.
Mass events might not restart until summer 2021 though, as they are clearly incompatible with avoiding mixing with strangers.
Those who say "I'm not going anywhere until there's a vaccine" - you do realise that it isn't a given that there will ever be a viable vaccine? We may just have to learn to live with this.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:49 am
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It is my 40th this year and I was going to have a week away in the Pyrenees or Alps. I've sacked off the idea off now, either I won't get there at all or if I do I'll be so short of skills I'll be a liability. Just bought a road bike instead, if I can't have skill I'll build up the fitness levels and I'll never complain about riding in the rain again (for a bit at least).


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 10:51 am
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I reckon UK based holidays by the autumn, can't see European travel opening up this year.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 11:01 am
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you do realise that it isn’t a given that there will ever be a viable vaccine?

I doubt that - this thing isn't a particularly cunning coronavirus, it's just a virulent one.


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 11:02 am
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My take is this

UK internal tourism and self catering will come back first. Me self isolating in a house in Devon isn't really that different from doing it here. But I could see the sea on bike rides and walks which I would happily pay for

Going abroad is whole different ball game. You reliant on:

This country letting you travel internally
The destination Country country allowing internal travel
The destination country accepting visitors from the UK (that I think will be a huge stumbling block, we aren't doing well here are we)
The UK letting you return from that country

Then there is travel. I can see once the above is sorted the Tunnel will take you in your car

But flight seems unimaginable to me at the moment. Can you imagine standing at check in looking at say 800 other people hoping that non of them cough then squeezing into a tube with them.

I bet some one is working on a plastic bag that you sit in connected to your own air vent. It will then of course take an hour to load the plane. So I think flights will cost more and take more time

Or maybe I just haven't woken up yet and got my optimism going


 
Posted : 22/04/2020 11:09 am
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Here's the latest tidbits on the EU external borders reopening borders

Mtbbeds have already said they'll transfer to next year but they're just waiting on something official to come down so insurance will kick in


 
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