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But flight seems unimaginable to me at the moment.
We're booked on Newcastle - Ijmuiden ferry late july, that won't happen either, never mind flights.
Spain are winding down the restrictions by second half of May, so you never know!
I can't imagine they'll be in a particular hurry to let in Brits, though - the videos of drunken Brits belligerently ignoring the lockdown restrictions in Benidorm was only a month ago...
Money will, eventually, talk.
We’re booked on Newcastle – Ijmuiden ferry late july, that won’t happen either
Us to but in early July.
Aviemore is looking favourite if we go anywhere this summer.
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Spain are winding down the restrictions by second half of May, so you never know!I can’t imagine they’ll be in a particular hurry to let in Brits, though – the videos of drunken Brits belligerently ignoring the lockdown restrictions in Benidorm was only a month ago…
tourism €€€ will let the knobbish behaviour fade to obscurity..
Also, nice big sign outside Denbies Vineyard - OPENING IN MAY - bit optomistic..
Due to be in Canada early June, fairly certain that’s not going to happen.
Hopefully will get to our place in Kerry for a few weeks late autumn and winter - Road cycling and mountain walks holiday rather than mtb and sun then.
tourism €€€ will let the knobbish behaviour fade to obscurity..
Eventually, of course. But I think the Spanish government will be allowing certain countries in before others.
Eventually, of course. But I think the Spanish government will be allowing certain countries in before others.
Natural to concentrate on other EU member states first.
Trip to Madrid for the wife's 50th in early May has been cancelled, obviously. Ryanair have started the refund process, although I don't expect it to be quick. The hotel was booked with no cancellation, do the current travel restrictions have any bearing on that?
Also supposed to be going to Cyprus in mid-July. Not holding my breath on that one.
Having just put the caravan on the drive for its annual service tomorrow I am thinking we may end up holidaying where it is. Had New Year cancelled as muggins here broke his leg, Easter and Whit for obvious reasons and hoping late July-mid-August in Cornwall might be OK but it's not our decision so wait and see. Rather we get through this and come out the other side than push it. it'll be there next year.
Got a refund from Jet2 pretty smartish for a holiday to Fuertaventura which was booked for Easter. We've rebooked to Corfu for the last 2 weeks in August, but only paid a deposit on this one. I think that Jet2 will have to decide whether the holiday will go ahead before the balance is due in June, so I figured that it was worth a punt. Greece are making positive noises about opening up for late Summer.
Travel within the UK. Help the local communities recover.
In Northumberland things are not good. Here in Seahouses we are totally reliant on tourism. How many of the businesses will survive this, is anyone's guess.
Travel within the UK. Help the local communities recover.
This is a nice sentiment, but I really struggle with the concept of paying a similar amount for two weeks in a holiday cottage in Scotland as two weeks all inclusive in the Med. I was shocked at the prices I recently found on Air B&B for places around Loch Lomond 🙁
I wonder if when it does calm down schools will allow time out during terms to facilitate family holidays, I'm sure some will say we've been together through all this, but a lot of us have continued to work full time and its close to normal contact with family. A different place and go and put some money into local economies would be beneficial all round.
For those worried about getting refunds - no recourse through credit card?
I wonder if when it does calm down schools will allow time out during terms to facilitate family holidays
I think they'll be trying hard to catch up on the months of work that's been missed.
So probably doubtful.
This is a nice sentiment, but I really struggle with the concept of paying a similar amount for two weeks in a holiday cottage in Scotland as two weeks all inclusive in the Med. I was shocked at the prices I recently found on Air B&B for places around Loch Lomond 🙁
Chances are you won't have the choice.
I cant think of a worse holiday than all inclusive in some Spanish resort full of Brits tbh, but each to their own.
Del
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For those worried about getting refunds – no recourse through credit card?
I gave up in Barclaycard, it was taking weeks to get a response and their wording looked like I would not get a refund for the accommodation because the accommodation did not cancel (I could not get there because flights had stopped).
Like I said on first page, accommodation owners have allowed us to choose another date so am going for that instead (and taken advantage of cheap easyJet flights for next Feb)
Edit: I should also add that our travel insurance would have covered is but I had overlapping policies which meant paying 2x excess per person!!
I think that’s a no. (Guardian liveblog)
Social distancing will likely be needed until a vaccine is available for Covid-19, according to the chief medical officer for England Chris Whitty. He told the daily news briefing he is hopeful for a vaccine within a year but there is a long way to go between having a vaccine and widespread immunity. It would therefore be “wholly unrealistic” to think that restrictions would be relaxed any time soon and some “very socially disruptive” measures would almost certainly have to remain in force for the rest of the year, he said. Whitty added that coronavirus isn’t going to be eradicated, so we must accept we will be working with it globally for the foreseeable future.
We have a caravan in North Wales, only 70 miles from our house. Getting back to it this year is unlikely - literally opened it up, cleaned it, then went back again and closed up the next week. Welsh not happy having anyone visit. We can and did isolate when we arrived to open up before the lock down.
At least the site has said they are cutting the grass - that's usully left for owners - will be a jungle if not.
That's £4k down the drain.
Front page of BBC news site at the moment has news feed.
5m - social restrictions to remain for rest of year
21m - vaccine could be available this year
No one knows!!
News outlets always go for the most eye grabbing things but tonight’s briefing was a little starker than I imagined it would be.
I suppose it’s obvious really we can’t eradicate it, it’s just too contagious. I guess we always knew how this would end, either a cure/vaccine or herd immunity with pray it doesn’t mutate. Or very starkly a kind of terrible evolution.
Ultimately, with all these field hospitals coming online and a vaccine unlikely before the end of 2020 we’re back where we were when Lock Down started, we’re slowing the spread so the NHS can cope. That could mean anything from pretty much normal life but self-isolating if you develop symptoms, or 24 lockdown and you don’t leave your home unless you’re buying food, or a continuous changing state depending on numbers.
The economist in me thinks the Government has a terrible decision to make. If we stay in lock down for another 8 months we’re going to need to come up with a really very spectacular economic solution and there’s no point it being on a national level, it would need to be global which means getting the US to act in everyone’s interest and not trying to use its size to bully the rest of the world we’re going to have to create trillions of pounds, dollars, yen, euros and everything else without it causing huge inflation or destroying our pensions and we’re going to have to do it in weeks. The average timescale for a single trade deal between nations is 28 months.
I’d bet now that every leader in the world is look at graph that shows a Great Depression that may never end at one end that means millions dead from poverty and millions dead at the other from the Virus and there’s a dozen of the smartest minds in their country trying to find somewhere in the middle that avoids both.
I’ve been pretty bullish about holiday this year, and I’m still fairly confident that it will be possible to travel for pleasure at some point this year, but a better question might be do you want to? Personally my immediate family has been exposed to Covid and I’m very confident that we’re in the lucky group that get little or no symptoms, but even so, I wouldn’t be thinking about flying anywhere this year.
I can't see how the population will accept lockdown in its current form for the test of the year, and likely beyond - something has to give as the economy can't afford it indefinitely.
"Improvise,adapt and overcome" is a mantra i've met over the decades and now seems a pressing time to explore it fully.
Necessity is the mother of invention, so they say - well surely it's necessary now.
Have you been watching too many 80s action movies?
This is a nice sentiment, but I really struggle with the concept of paying a similar amount for two weeks in a holiday cottage in Scotland as two weeks all inclusive in the Med. I was shocked at the prices I recently found on Air B&B for places around Loch Lomond 🙁
I know it’s pretty ridiculous that they want to charge you that much to be cramped in some apparthotel drinking cheap booze eating mass produced grub right next to other annoying brits getting fat arsed and even more obnoxious when you Could have a fortnight in peace and tranquillity in Scotland. If you looked beyond the stereotypical locations you could even do it much cheaper than L Lomond. Although you may find that supply and demand is not in your favour right now as all the people who usually holiday here have already got bookings before the “can’t get to the med” panic begins.
Hmm...
All knocked into a cocked hat here. We have ferry and flights booked for Germany mid August, but work has knackered it all. I should have been on my leave at that time, but as I have been held on the ship, my rotation is all out of sync now any way. Hoping that the insurance (I took out as soon as I booked) will pay up if I can't get a refund.
Luckily nothing else booked, ie hotel.
P-Jay, generally in agreement with your summary.
As long as trump is president the US will become more isolationist and continue failing to see/understand the global perspective.
How long before he has a pop at the World Bank given their recent statements?
As for a way out, vaccine development is the big solution but there is no guarantee that will happen; if it doesn't, we'll be closer to the abyss.
I know it’s pretty ridiculous that they want to charge you that much to be cramped in some apparthotel drinking cheap booze eating mass produced grub right next to other annoying brits getting fat arsed and even more obnoxious when you Could have a fortnight in peace and tranquillity in Scotland.
Each to their own, I guess. But a fortnight at a 4* hotel next to the beach, with a kids' club, organised activities every day, no need to think about cooking, guaranteed good weather... Not something I'd want to do every year, but I'm not so snobbish as to not see its appeal as a stress-free family holiday.
We took the former attitude ^^ until urgently defaulting to a last minute all-inc in Ibiza one year, then realising the appeal mogrim alludes to.
At the risk of sounding snobbish, for a working family with kids it is indeed a great, easy, sunny relaxer. The key is to find a location where you aren’t surrounded by the trailer trash who want to fill themselves with beer all day and get obnoxious during the kids entertainment at night. We found a lovely place with more middle class people - it means paying a bit extra but it’s not crowded, superbly staffed, clean and everyone is polite and friendly. In theory we’d be going back for our 3rd holiday there this year - we’ve so for been each alternate year.
*pins "Most STW Reply" award on Kryton's Rapha jersey*
My white spare room wall now has the outline of a laptop screen in coffee spray, like those caveman hand paintings
We found a lovely place with more middle class people
*Boak*
We're due to pay the full cost of our holiday cottage in Yorkshire by Saturday. We've booked the middle two weeks in July. 10 weeks from now.
If we cancel now we lose our deposit of £400-ish.
If we pay the balance and we're not able to go becuase of the lockdown or other travel restrictoins still being in place in July we'll lose the lot - nearly 3 grand.
Insurance won't cover it ( we've checked) and neither do the booking conditions.
What would you do?*
* I already know what I'm going to do.
What would you do?*
Talk to them and try to move the final payment due date to closer to the time?
Talk to them and try to move the final payment due date to closer to the time?
We have and they've given us an extra five weeks.....but the booking conditions state that if we cancel with 5 weeks notice then it'll cost us 75% of the cost of the booking. It's tiered so that the closer to the holiday date you cancel, the more it costs.
We were booked for a week at Longleat Center Parcs a month ago, but the villages closed the weekend before our booking and we both had C19 symptoms to different degrees anyway. We decided to re-book for next March and nothing has made me regret that group decision since, albeit I'm gutted to not be going this year when I was all set to take my road bike and explore the good handful of cat3/4 climbs right on the campus doorstep.
We have and they’ve given us an extra five weeks…..but the booking conditions state that if we cancel with 5 weeks notice then it’ll cost us 75% of the cost of the booking. It’s tiered so that the closer to the holiday date you cancel, the more it costs.
Who's it booked with?
If I was you I would cancel. I have a horrible feeling nothing will be sorted this summer.
What the long term consequence of that is God only knows....
I'd be waving goodbye to the £400.
Who’s it booked with?
cottages.com. They've been quite evasive and are only interested in talking to people who'll be travelling in the next few weeks.
I’d be waving goodbye to the £400.
Is the correct answer.
Mister P +1
If by some miracle things do open up in the summer, there'll be some cheap deals on accommodation available due to the recession we'll be in.
We've got a 2 weeks away at the start of August in Scotland. Balance is due start of July. I'm not hopeful about this happening. It might but it'll be an odd holiday if it does. Feeling very relieved we didn't book the other accommodation we considered. A stunning cottage in Northumberland but it was £3k in full upfront. Ouch.
I've just booked a week at the same place for Easter 2021. For the sake a £130 deposit seems worth it as that looks like a more realistic date. There could be a big clamour for UK holidays in 2021.
As someone who rarely holidays abroad or books things well in advance, sod's law dictates that this is the one year I've done both - 2 different trips too!
1) Supposed to be going to a festival in Milan in June
- Flights with Ryanair
- Hotel booked as cheap as poss (no cancellation refunds)
- Festival doesn't seem to have acknowledged that they're at the epicentre of a pandemic
2) Visiting family in the US in July/August
- Flights with Virgin Atlantic
I've not investigated cancelling any of it yet, although I'm resigned to none of it actually happening. Presumably none of the companies are going to be interested in cancellations until lockdown is confirmed for those dates...
I'm hoping that my travel insurance (provided through work) will cover most of it if the companies are awkward about refunding (or go under in VA case!), or failing that my credit card company might be able to help.
We’re due to pay the full cost of our holiday cottage in Yorkshire by Saturday...
If the dilemma were travelling abroad, I'd take the £400 hit and keep an eye out closer to the time - there's a good probability if we were able to travel, that you'd get the same holiday at least £400 cheaper last-minute.
In the UK though, if we have any kind of internal travel or lockdown restrictions, there is surely some comeback. If you can't legally go on holiday under government guidelines, they can't take money for those services? I appreciate there are grey areas, and I wouldn't be comfortable playing with that kind of money, but in theory you should be refunded?
Kryton’s Rapha jersey
*turns web cam to off*
Nobodyofthegoat - we've done the same - moved CP April 2020 to April 2021 but you should have received a £150 credit from CP, which was their offer?