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[Closed] Racism row in Australia

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Thanks for outing yourself Neil.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:45 pm
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Pretty sure its kiwis who shag sheep not the aussies :p

Depends whether you ask a Kiwi or an Aussie, or a Wels........ ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:46 pm
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No, no, really they've given them their land back, paid reparations and compensation, opened up social and economic mobility and everything . Haven't you Neil?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:47 pm
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Two things...

1. That video is about stuff that happened 200 years ago. Not that relevant to the current discussiobn which is worried about stuff happening now.

2. Outing myself? What as? Someone who is more concerned with getting on with life rather than collective hand-wringing and crying sympathy tears over the past. Yuip, spot on,


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:51 pm
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Other than be a decent enough bloke, not be a racist idiot

Seems like you need to work on that TBH.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:53 pm
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But it's ok, you're just showing you've got a greater tolerance for racism than we do - maybe in the end that makes you a better person eh?

Must...resist....ad hom....must....not descend...to Zokes level......

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.........*cough* I wouldn't expect any better from a Bangor graduate anyway. *cough*

1. That video is about stuff that happened 200 years ago. Not that relevant to the current discussiobn which is worried about stuff happening now.

Yes it is, it perfectly explains why calling someone out for being white on an anti-racism thread is okay.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:54 pm
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No, no, really they've given them their land back, paid reparations and compensation, opened up social and economic mobility and everything . Haven't you Neil?

Opened up economic mobility? Yes.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:54 pm
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Opened up economic mobility? Yes.

By employing mostly white europeans and a token indigenous aussie?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:56 pm
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Other than be a decent enough bloke, not be a racist idiot
Seems like you need to work on that TBH.

Fair enough, that's quite funny.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 3:59 pm
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Opened up economic mobility? Yes.
By employing mostly white europeans and a token indigenous aussie?

Nothing token about it. I could employ 100% indigenous aussies or I could employ none, I really don't GAS. My basis for emploiying people is whether they have the skills I need, I can present them to clients and ultimately can I make money on them. That's the difference between me and a lot of you - my thinking isn't biased by race, religion or background. You can knock capitalism for many things, but in this case, it's a pretty good leveller.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:04 pm
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At the end of the day, we have several people who have either briefly visited or lived in Oz who are convinced most of us are racist yet seem curiously blind to racism in their own country, and a few of us who do live in Oz who know that mostly we're not.

For an added irony bonus of course there's also the fact that most of the ills in Australia stem from British rule before final (near) complete independence.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:04 pm
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At the end of the day, we have several people who have either briefly visited or lived in Oz who are convinced most of us are racist

Not me. But you're own centre for policy research in this area seems to think there's a problem. But you probably know best. DOn't you?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:07 pm
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For an added irony bonus of course there's also the fact that most of the ills in Australia stem from British rule before final (near) complete independence.

Yeah we have something to apologize for - but you can't blame it on us to deflect Australia's responsibility. Your more civilized neighbors (the Kiwis) did a far better job of being nice to the locals than you guys did.

Nothing token about it. I could employ 100% indigenous aussies or I could employ none, I really don't GAS. My basis for emploiying people is whether they have the skills I need, I can present them to clients and ultimately can I make money on them. That's the difference between me and a lot of you - my thinking isn't biased by race, religion or background. You can knock capitalism for many things, but in this case, it's a pretty good leveller.

Ahhhh you're one of my favorite subtypes, the colorblind racist.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:07 pm
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Oz who are convinced most of us are racist yet seem curiously blind to racism in their own country, and a few of us who do live in Oz who know that mostly we're not.

This guy in OZ seems pretty sure that you are. :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:13 pm
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Your more civilized neighbors (the Kiwis) did a far better job of being nice to the locals than you guys did.

While colonialism in Australia was a bloodbath, mainly due to the many indigenous tribes already being in periodic conflict before the Brits turned up, making the tactics of divide and conquer brutally effective, the indigenous New Zealanders decided unity was the best tactic and negotiated a lot more. Plenty of hurt that side of the ditch too though, and it does rear its head occasionally.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:16 pm
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For an added irony bonus of course there's also the fact that most of the ills in Australia stem from British rule before final (near) complete independence.

Yes in historical terms it's basically entirely Britain's fault, but we're not the ones over there being racist right now and profiting from a system that continues to brutalise and oppress the native population. Well, actually I suppose there are quite a lot of British expats out there, and some of them seem to have some pretty backward/blinkered attitudes.....


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:17 pm
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Ahhhh you're one of my favorite subtypes, the colorblind racist.

Honestly no idea what that means. Does that mean you win?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:17 pm
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Yes in historical terms it's basically entirely Britain's fault, but we're not the ones over there being racist right now and profiting from a system that continues to brutalise and oppress the native population.

Apparently it's all their own fault for not being good at negotiating with their oppressors.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:19 pm
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While colonialism in Australia was a bloodbath, mainly due to the many indigenous tribes already being in periodic conflict before the Brits turned up, making the tactics of divide and conquer brutally effective, the indigenous New Zealanders decided unity was the best tactic and negotiated a lot more. Plenty of hurt that side of the ditch too though, and it does rear its head occasionally.

Oh so actually, what you're saying is, is that it's the indigenous tribes fault for being a bit more spear chucky than their New Zealand compatriots.

Sounds like white revisionism to me Zokes, I see your doctorate really paid for itself.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:20 pm
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This guy in OZ seems pretty sure that you are.

And in Britain too.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/white-people-may-deny-it-but-racismis-back-in-britain-10384129.html

Why can't you accept this without resorting to whataboutery?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:20 pm
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Yes in historical terms it's basically entirely Britain's fault, but we're not the ones over there being racist right now and profiting from a system that continues to brutalise and oppress the native population. Well, actually I suppose there are quite a lot of British expats out there, and some of them seem to have some pretty backward attitudes.....

Brutalise? Really? I'm almost feeling guilty. Still not sure what for though. Help me out. What exactly have I done?


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:20 pm
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What exactly have I done?

Disagree with the petulant boy who thought his lecturer was wrong at uni, and went in to sook on here about failing the associated assessment.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:23 pm
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Hey, at least I didn't go to Bangor.

Also, the lecturer turned out to be wrong. ๐Ÿ™‚

Why can't you accept this without resorting to whataboutery?

Have I ever mentioned that I didn't accept there was an issue with racism in the uk? God knows how you survived your viva zokes.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:24 pm
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Hey, at least I didn't go to Bangor.

It's what you do with it that counts

God knows how you survived your viva zokes.

My examiners asked significantly more intelligent questions than you do.

And again, regarding Britsh racism, you managed to erroneously change the tense to past. It's not, it's present.


 
Posted : 31/07/2015 4:30 pm
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I've done/am doing plenty with mine cheers. ๐Ÿ˜€

EDIT: Ooooh a grammar pedant to boot.


 
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