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I have started running outside after a year spent misguidedly using a treadmill.

So far i have been for several 7 mile runs and usually drink before and after with no ill effects. Tomorrow morning i am going to attempt a 10 mile run. Would i be ok in keeping to the same system or would i need to take some water with me to stop me keeling over and turning into sand through dehydration?


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 7:34 pm
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I am not training at the moment, but regularly ran up to 10 miles without taking on water during the run, sometimes I would end up a bit thirsty, especially after a few beers. As long as its not really hot and you have drunk enough water before the run you will be OK, IME.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 7:39 pm
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It depends on you, how hot it is and where you are running. I always carry a camelbak but I tend to train for a longer run when I will need lots of fluid so see the extra weight as a part of training. as long as the backpack has compression straps you should be ok.

If you want over-kill I use a camelbak Hawg and it's been great for 3Ltrs of drink and spare room for jacket, clothes and food.


 
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Well, the weather looks a bit hit and miss tomorrow so do not think it will be too hot. It will be mostly off road with no major gradients, i am in cambridgeshire, so reckon i will give it a go sans water. Even the idea of having to carry anything is enough to put me off. Hopefully it will rain so i just have to tilt my head back and open me cake hole :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 7:46 pm
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Rather than using the runners hand-held thingy (sorry, can't remember it's name), perhaps a better option would be a specific running bottleholder. There is one that has the bottle angled, which seemed a really sensible idea. Check out The Sweat Shop's website cos they used to sell them.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 8:24 pm
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Do a 5 mile loop twice and leave a bottle of water half way?


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 8:52 pm
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Amazing tho it may sound to anyone from the Evian generation, your body can function perfectly well without a bottle of water constantly at hand. Just get on with the running, and have a drink afterwards, like everyone in the world has done for the last 5000 years.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 8:57 pm
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I don't take anything for under 10miles. I'm seriously tempted by the inov-8 packs [url= http://www.inov-8.com/Products.asp?PG=PG2&L=26 ]here[/url] The bladders have internal baffles to stop the water sloshing about too much. Neat idea IMHO.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 8:59 pm
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I reckon I'd struggle without water on anything more than 10k. Those handheld thingies are a nightmare - tried them [i]once[/i] - never again. My shoulder was killing me after a few miles. They're ok for jogging. I reckon you'll know yourself. Just make sure you leave with plenty on board.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:01 pm
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Just a suggestion - it might be worth getting to know where drinking water taps are located. When I ran, there was a tap by some woods but it did get dismantled, not sure why.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:05 pm
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Good Grief People!

No one is going to dehydrate running 10 miles!

When I was training for my first marathon, aged 14, many many years ago, we ran 11 miles wearing jeans and had parkas wrapped around our waists in case it rained.

Total hydration carried for 3 people; one melted ice-pop.

It's no wonder that the Kenyans can run us into the ground; some of the Kenyan KIDS run 10 miles to school and back, with no stupid little water bottle belt rubbish....

Edited to say; STOP BEING CRAP WESTERN SOFTIES AND GET ****ING ON WITH IT YOU GREAT BLOODY BLOUSES....


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:10 pm
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Or loop back home after a few miles for a drinky then head back out again? Alternatively if you don't trust yourself not to give in, run to a mates house and grab a drink (beer maybe?)

I did a race once that was 2x5k laps. There was a drink station at 2.5k that was kind of intended to be at the 7.5k mark of the 10k race. Yep, there were people racing the 5k and taking drinks at 2.5k. FWIW it was about 15C so not exactly baking hot!


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:14 pm
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Seriously, some guys (and girls) are heavy sweaters and need to hydrate. Everyone is different.

Could always do a pee test afterwards, your friendly local dietician has a chart of pee colours so will make interesting reading 🙄


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:22 pm
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@ Crikey

Calm down dear. People are allowed to do things however they see fit. Personally i was asking as i didn't want to, even tho i was reasonably sure i wouldn't, do myself a mischief.

Thanks for the advice everyone else. Will do my usual and see what occurs, but handy to know what is on the market.

....just probably run in shorts and t-shirt as opposed to being dressed like a mod tho 😉


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:27 pm
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Good God.

How did the human race ever get out of Africa without carrying ickle bottles of spring water to rehydrate themselves?

It's being soft, that's all.

There is a need to rehydrate, but it is not crucial after running 10 miles. It's like the daft donkeys who insist on taking 3 litres of water for an hour out on the mountain bike; your body can and will cope with temporary lack of Volvic, and the more you do it, the more efficient you will become. Conversely, the more you insist on always being in a perfect state of hydration, the less efficient you will be when you actually have to step away from the water cooler...........

..and they were proper snorkel parkas too, none of that fishtail nonsense; it rains proper up here!


 
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One side effect I've observed is that not hydrating properly during exercise can lead to "post excercise forum irritability" (waves at crikey! :-))


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 9:40 pm
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well had to read the title twice now is that "quick" as in easy and no polemnics or pedant-tarts (touche) or I'm a quick runner?

anyhow this was an excellent answer:

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sometimes I would end up a bit thirsty, especially after a few beers

well done


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:33 pm
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Yeah, maybe get crikey to go with you ... except he might think he's in the Kalahari dessert via Salisbury Plain 🙄


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:47 pm
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your body can and will cope with temporary lack of Volvic, and the more you do it, the more efficient you will become

Are you absolutely sure about that?


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 11:09 pm
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Don't worry, you'll be fine doing what you currently do.


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 7:57 am
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I only 'ran' off road (8-13 miles) though water wasn't a real issue I did wear a Lowe 'bum bag' mainly for keys and a pertex, but on uber hot long off road runs I'd bung a bottle in it.
What I liked was that it had a very wide belt with compression straps so as the load got smaller you could pull the pack in on the go.


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 8:09 am
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I give you Joe Friels thoughts on the subject;

[url] http://www.trainingbible.com/joesblog/2008_09_01_archive.html [/url]

Looking at the sports science research on the subject, there is a move away from the 'you must drink as much as you can' theory, and now, amazingly enough, people are beginning to say that thirst is an accurate indicator of your need to drink.

Who'd a thought it? A biofeedback mechanism that has developed over thousands of years of evolution that turns out to be the best way of determining hydration..... 🙄

10 miles, jesus H christ.... (walks off in huff)


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 8:13 am
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Morning all. Just got in from run, feeling quite chuffed as it was my first 10 miler. Just drank .75l of water in the 40 mins before left at 7am, and then had a banana and a Yazoo milkshake when i got in and now drinking a cup of coffee and a glass of water. Feel fine and had the added bonus of seeing a naked elderly gent riding his bike round the local park. (Ferry Meadows for those in Boro.)


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 9:12 am
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I ran the Swinley 10k a few weeks ago when we had that heat wave, it was probably about 28'C at 19:00hrs when we set off. I was worried about hydration as I know I sweat loads, especially when I want to get a pace on. I was drinking water throughout the day right up to just before the race. I had a bottle of water in my hand at the start line ready to take with me but I ditched it in a bin at the last moment just as we set off. About 3k into the run I realised I'd drank far too much and I could feel it slowing me down. Mistake. Should've drank less and hydrated afterwards. I reckon I could've knocked a couple of minutes off my time and felt much more comfortable doing it.

Kev


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 12:05 pm
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crikey, who above said you should drink as much as you can?
Someone can drink too much or too little. Conditions decide on the amount of hydration not your one rule for all, even the link you posted says this.


 
Posted : 11/07/2009 2:37 pm
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You can run 7 - 8 miles without water as long as the weather isn't too hot (and your are not in the sun). If it is over 80 degrees and you are going 8 miles or so, I would take a little water. For runs under 15 miles, I use one or two [url= http://www.bodybottle.com ]Body Bottles[/url]; they strap to your bicep so your hands are free.


 
Posted : 14/07/2009 1:07 am
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Anything over 90 mins or so & I'll take a small bottle of water

These are quite good & unobtrusive

http://www.alexandrasports.com/8261/Hilly-Classic-Bottle-Belt.html


 
Posted : 14/07/2009 6:25 am
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I'm with Crikey on this one, though without the attitude 🙂

I frequently do a 1.5hr run at weekends, here in central Spain in summer. I set off early, of course, but the temps at the end of the run are definitely over 30C, and I don't take water with me. I make sure I've had a couple of glasses of water before starting, and drink a fair amount when I get back, but I don't feel any real need to drink on the way round.


 
Posted : 14/07/2009 7:09 am
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I'm pretty sure I can go a lot longer without a drink but I feel better if I do have a bit of water after 90 mins or so
No point in feeling uncomfortable if it's not necessary - whether or not it's a biological requirement is irrelevant.


 
Posted : 14/07/2009 7:14 am
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Our club runs used to be up to around 17 miles. We passed through a cemetery on hot days for a drink at the tap.

Other than that Crikey is right. MTFU and concentrate on making your 10 miles runs less than an hour instead of worrying about carrying bottles.

Just make sure you are hydrated all the time before and after and your body will take care of itself during your training sessions.


 
Posted : 14/07/2009 7:32 am