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I saw a Vulcan crash in 1971.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:22 pm
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When I turned 23, I had all the responsibility of living at home ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:23 pm
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Ha, anyone see that, he was wearing a pair of 5-10s as he climbed into the aircraft.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:24 pm
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We asked the RAF if there was an aircraft in the area to have a look....they scrambled a Spitfire.

Outstanding.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:25 pm
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Ha, anyone see that, he was wearing a pair of 5-10s as he climbed into the aircraft.

Yeah, raised a smile!


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:26 pm
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Bloody good program. Sitting here grinning. I probably look like more of an idiot than usual!


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:31 pm
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We asked the RAF if there was an aircraft in the area to have a look....they scrambled a Spitfire.
Outstanding.

Are you sure it wast the Irish Air Force...


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:32 pm
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Nah, they've got a Cessna.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:33 pm
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Are you sure it wast the Irish Air Force...

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/brian-coxraf-owe-me-a-new-ipad ]Still chuckling![/url]


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:35 pm
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The UK gave up a lot of its sovereign aircraft capabilities when they signed the 1958 agreement with the Americans in exchange for the H-bomb and Polaris.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:39 pm
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Smells a bit fruity... ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:42 pm
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8)


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 9:59 pm
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Kin awesome!


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:00 pm
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Meh, bag o'shite.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:02 pm
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Mega.


 
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...and now how about a spot of this?


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:03 pm
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Awesome programme. If you didn't appreciate it then you are either... a girl, not British, or just simply a Nob.


 
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Well, well indeed. What a fantastic programme eh. Had me sitting sort of gobsmacked at the understated passion of the crew that both maintained and flew the Vulcan. Some real heroes of our time right there, recalling the Falklands airstrip bombing and reconnaissance had me glued. Quite a heartfelt and humble piece of TV.

And I'm not normally interested in Planes n shit ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:11 pm
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For further viewing, I'd also recommend looking for the BBC two-parter "Cold War. Hot Jets."

It's very, very good indeed.

Also, the Roland White book, Vulcan 607, is well worth a read (Unlike his other stuff, sadly!)


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:14 pm
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Top telly that.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:26 pm
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For further viewing, I'd also recommend looking for the BBC two-parter "Cold War. Hot Jets."

It's very, very good indeed.

Seconded.
I knew they barrel rolled the Vulcan, never knew about the roll off the top (half loop, half roll manoeuvre) which was shown in the Guy Martin documentary. Impressive stuff!


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:30 pm
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Falklands airstrip bombing and reconnaissance had me glued.

Read Vulcan 607, amazing book of how it was done but also how close to disaster it always was.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 10:31 pm
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Anyone else watching the last hour again on 4+1?

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Posted : 29/11/2015 11:00 pm
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A bomber laden with nuclear warheads less deadly than a corsa.

Only if it ever carried a nuclear weapon, which was one missile, not bombs, unless it carried conventional HE dumb iron bombs, like for the Falklands operation.
The nuclear weapon was the Blue Steel 'stand-off bomb', basically a guided air-launched cruise missile weighing 17,000lb, travelling at Mach 3.
I doubt very much indeed whether a Vulcan ever carried a live nuclear weapon. Unlike the Americans, and quite likely the Russians.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 11:00 pm
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Awesome.
Watching that I just remembered I was allowed on to the flight deck of a Vulcan when I was a kid, I just can't remember where it was.

Was it at Woodford (airshow?) in the late 70's early 80's? I vaguely remember climbing up into one for a nosey as a nipper but I wasn't fully aware of what exactly a Vulcan was the time.

An awesome hours worth of tv. Mega


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 11:04 pm
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Only if it ever carried a nuclear weapon, which was one missile, not bombs, unless it carried conventional HE dumb iron bombs, like for the Falklands operation.
The nuclear weapon was the Blue Steel 'stand-off bomb', basically a guided air-launched cruise missile weighing 17,000lb, travelling at Mach 3.
I doubt very much indeed whether a Vulcan ever carried a live nuclear weapon. Unlike the Americans, and quite likely the Russians.

So you did not watch it then.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 11:11 pm
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I doubt very much indeed whether a Vulcan ever carried a live nuclear weapon. Unlike the Americans, and quite likely the Russians.

Well smart arse, according to my (ex) boss it did. Cos he 'knew' due to the fact he worked on the lectrics & stuff on Vulcans.


 
Posted : 29/11/2015 11:30 pm
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In the height of the cold war they were permanently fuelled, loaded with the primary weapon and ready to go. It was sort of the point of the deterrent, when Russian nukes are heading our way they've got to be airborne in minutes as there will be a nuke on its way to the airfield, so no time to fuel up and load a nuke. They carried both Blue Steel and conventional nukes. Blue Steel was practically obsolete before it actually came into service thanks to ICBMs so delivery of a conventional nuke became it's primary mission.

I think the aircraft needed modification to carry Blue Steel - it was too large to fit in the bomb bay so was half in and half out, so removal of the bomb bay doors and no doubt the installation of some housing for it to sit in.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 8:24 am
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I am out of the country so haven't seen the programme yet, really looking forward to it.

For those who've flown with Emirates over the years you may well have been piloted by an ex Vulcan bomber captain Glynn Rowlands and almost certainly the pilot would have been trained by him as after full time flying he ran their training operation. He told me some epic stories of spooking the Russians including how they used to greet Russian Navy in the Med by approaching low over the horizon and buzzing them as load as they could at dawn. Glyn was a sailing friend of mine and is a great character, he also has some of the craziest "Kung fu" dance moves to the Vapours Turning Japanese


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 8:57 am
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Mrs Weeksys grand father was a Vulcan test pilot, one of the first bunch I believe. Looking forward to watching this one as we recorded it last night.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 9:12 am
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he also has some of the craziest "Kung fu" dance moves to the Vapours Turning Japanese

That is weirdly reassuring.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 9:18 am
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Lass I know used to walk up to and kick vulcans, even gate guardians. She's now a sqn ldr.
Because her house in Stanley took a hit from one, so she thought, until she spoke to the lynx pilot that actually did.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 11:11 am
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one of the things that really gets on my nerves about programmes like this is totally irrelevant need (seen by the producers) to build a sense of tension.

There's a bit that require a delicate manoeuvre to get the thing off a set of hydraulic jacks, before the ad break we get told of the disastrous consequences if Guy messes it up!! (as if he's in charge or would be left in control) and then while it's going on, an entirely false sense of urgency as trained men go about a (albeit tricky) procedure in a steady, undramatic controlled fashion....

Stop doing that, it's really bloody annoying!


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 11:23 am
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When the Vulcan came to Kemble in late '00s it used to turn above my house when doing its demonstration - bonkers loud, sat with kids in the garden watching it - just amazing British engineering - pity we're not world leaders in creative engineering anymore, well I suppose the Dyson factory is down the road in Malmesbury, noise of those things doesn't create the same emotions though!


 
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Indeed @Harry, without getting too over the top with the "bromance" he is a real man's man, husband and father to three great daughters too. Must ask if he has any photos to share from his time in service


 
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pity we're not world leaders in creative engineering anymore,

i'll refer you to the other thread...

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helping-support-uk-industry-why-its-worth-it ]uk engineering isn't dead[/url]

Uk engineering is now 2(?) generations more advanced, there's some very impressive stuff out there...


 
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I find it a little strange that there is so much love for a bomber somewhere there is no appetite for bombing.

I have no love for war and violence in general but the Vulcan appeals as it's an amazing engineering feat considering the technology available at the time. Modern computer designed war planes do not have the same wonder for me. It has nothing to do with the fact it could drop nuclear bombs. It's an unfortunate fact that some of the greatest leaps in technology have happened during wartime.

On a similar note I find old churches, cathedrals, mosques, temples etc amazing places. The skill and effort that went in to building them is incredible, and that's what I appreciate. Not the religious mumbo jumbo that they were built for.

Back on topic - I saw Guy was rocking some ST merchandise ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 12:01 pm
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Mentioned that the Spitfire was 20 years older than the Vulcan during the programme...

Seeing the two flying together, thats quite a techno jump in a short time.


 
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Agreed with what @cheers says about old buildings, the feats of engineering are quite amazing


 
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Hmmmmm. Typical Guy Martin fronted show; heavy on tea, 'chief' and repeating the same line several times with an additional 'spot on' as punctuation. He's a bloke's bloke but about as in depth as Playschool. Sorry ๐Ÿ™

The Vulcan is (was) a lovely aircraft. I remember seeing them doing (presumably) practice low level bomb runs down Rutland Water in the early '80's. The shit they threw out the back at full gas would have the eco woolies pooing their pants now ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 12:19 pm
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In the height of the cold war they were permanently fuelled, loaded with the primary weapon and ready to go.

When he was in the RAF my dad used to work on the Vulcans and never tired of telling us that he had his tea break sat on an atom bomb.


 
Posted : 30/11/2015 12:36 pm
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Great programme of a great aircraft. I thought they keep a pretty good balance of keeping to aircraft the star, after a while I forgot Guy was there but I did like his input. Really enjoyed the 'keepers of the Spirit' being on there as well.
Well done ITV4, well done matey and my hat is off to those that kept her going and a damp eye for 558.


 
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I thought it was a good show. The last 5 minutes was a bit naff I thought, rather rushed.

I saw the Vulcan at the NI Airshow in 2013. The memory of it doing its final pass down between Slieve Donard and Slieve Commedagh was unreal. Still makes the hair on my neck stand up thinking about it. I share the thoughts of admiring it more for its engineering feat rather than it being a killing machine.


 
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