A regular customer came into the bike shop today and we started talking as we do, he tells he he has prostrate cancer (59yrsold) he asked how old I was which is 39 his reply is that I should go to the doctor just to have a check, have spent the rest of the day feeling pretty crap ! (my mother died of Breast cancer when she was 50)
I have no symptoms of PC
Is 39 yrs old to young to have a check ?
Would you at 39 yrs old ?
Have you been checked ?
Head overload !
Im 36 and havent yet. I was saving myself for my fortieth as a treat.
Something that I often wonder about...
I heard it could turn you gay if they do it rong
[i]MrNutt - Member
I heard it could turn you gay if they do it rong [/i]
idiot !
I heard it could turn you gay if they do it rong
Only if the doc does it with a hand on each shoulder, eh?
to pardon the pun there are some complete d1cks on this forum ! why would you mock about cancer ? cos I dont think it something to joke about as I am sure others would object to your immature responses !
why would you mock about cancer
why would you not?
is it on a special list or something?
Did you not see the Aussie testicular cancer self checking campaign? Very effective and very funny.
What Stoner said, might as well laugh in cancers face before it offs most of us.
Had a man smear ky jelly on my balls in a professional manner for the fist time last year, apparently if you go private you get the tingly stuff.
+1 what Stoner said.
Get it out there and make fun of it. You can scare folk into going to the docs or you can relax them a little into going to the docs. I know which one I prefer.
...or women running around the park in the middle of the night in their bras. Deadpan that was.
And as for Bullheart's deeply improper T-shirts.....
I was asking have you been checked !
In the face of such a serious issue, can I be the one to point out that the organ in question is the PROSTATE gland, and the position one lies down in is PROST[u]R[/u]ATE.
- Not really sure what the symptoms are.
- No reason to suspect I have it.
- In my mid-late 30s so it has crossed my mind that I should get checked, but typical blokeishness means I'll probably never get around to it.
- Dad currently suffering from prostate problems (not the big C fortunately) so it has been playing on my mind more due to this.
I'm all for adding humour to a subject and don't personally see a problem here. Although there's a time and a place; this was [i]just[/i] a "What do you know about PC checks" thread as opposed to a "I've just been diagnosed and am scared" thread...
Crikey has a bloody good point.
The antigen check is pretty unreliable is it not?
I have had the, er, more rudimentary check yes (I'm 38). The doc took her watch off before she did it which was reassuring.
The doc took her watch off before she did it which was reassuring.
😯
the last think you want is the metal strap to get caught up in your dagnut hair.
I have, and whilst not exactly pleasant, it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. Think I was 37 at the time, I got checked whilst seeing the doc for what turned out to be piles 😕
I dont think it something to joke about as I am sure others would object to your immature responses
The procedure involves some bloke sticking his finger up your arse and doodling around.
I'm 38 and the doc started during my annual physical when I was 36. I think the guidelines are slightly different here in the US. Well, either that or he took a shine to my quaint British accent. 😯
Doc: During this part of the exam, it's normal to experience an erection
Patient: I haven't got one
Doc: No, but I have
IGMC.
Annual physical?
In answer to the OP's question - No, but I haven't singled it out to avoid, just haven't been checked for anything by a GP, not even if I have a pulse.
a massive +1 for crikey.
for what it's worth i have been violated by medical people on numerous occasions. i have even volunteered to have this violation done in front of a range of health professionals. sometimes those health profesionals have been people i knew. on one occasion they asked me to give a running commentary to the violation. the humour i exhibited at that time was both inappropriate and scabrous. however all of these were in direct connection to symptoms i was manifesting at the time. i should also point out that altho i didn't need my prostate felt up they did it anyway 'because it's there'.
My GP checks the PSA for all blokes over 50 as a matter of routine.
The PSA on its own isn't that reliable - concurrent infections etc don't help, for instance - and let's not forget WE ARE CYCLISTS - think about what gets, erm, pressed/compressed then Google PSA and cycling.
If you're having any trouble at all taking a pee, go see your GP.
Crikey has a bloody good point.
+2
I presume my GP will tell me when it's time for a checkup of that nature, so why would I worry?
to pardon the pun there are some complete d1cks on this forum ! why would you mock about cancer ? cos I dont think it something to joke about as I am sure others would object to your immature responses !
A freind of mine is a cancer specialist, she gets to tell people they have cancer and the treatment,she is a lovely person with a good sence of humour and says her surgerys are full of laughter, sometimes you need to step back and laugh at stuff, worrying about it makes things worse.
Oh and my dad died of Prostate cance, and i saw him slowly failing, being on a catheter, not being able to get out of bed due a broken leg, and all the time we stil had a joke.
Finally i ve had a digital rectal examination for a health related problem, its embarassing, as the trainee male Dr asked his female boss to do it for him, what he learnt i dont know,but she said i was ok.She was not impressed by his lack of intrest.
Just ask for the test if it worries you, or dont if you dont want to know.
yes I've had it done, its no big deal, I was in and out of the doctors in under five minutes, he was even quicker when checking me!
But honestly its a medical procedure, its not sexy nor should it be anything more than a "matter of fact" examination. In practice its far quicker and less unpleasant than an endoscopy or any other such invasive procedure.
There's no more shame in it than going to the dentist. MTFU.
Oh and unfitgeezer, I've a prolific family history of cancer as well as having had more than my fair share of first hand experience providing palliative care for loved ones. I can whole heartedly and honestly assure you that a sense of humour is one of the most important things you could ever have about your person during those dark times, that and along with a shit load of patience and morphine.
I bet you wish you weren't such an up tight asshole now huh?
Read [url= http://www.patient.co.uk/health/PSA-Testing-for-Prostate-Cancer.htm ]this[/url] as it's full of useful information about testing for prostate C.
Essentially,
-you might not have cancer if it's raised.
-you might have cancer if it isn't.
-a finger up the poop shoot is 'a comin'.
PSA testing isn't routinely done (i.e. isn't a screening programme) for the above reasons. Ultimately, have a chat with the GP, who will more than likely give you the leaflet (above) and let you decide if you're happy to go ahead....
DrP
PS - 5 points for anyone who can tell me what 'PSA' actually is/does...!
BTW - Mr Nutt reliably informs me he checks his own prostate 2 to 3 times per day....
DrP
Had a man smear ky jelly on my balls in a professional manner for the fist time last year
Even ignoring the (intentional?) inclusion of the word 'fist', I'm not sure I want to ask. 😯
and the position one lies down in is PROSTRATE.
If you're prostrate when you have the test, doesn't that mean you're doing it wrong?!
Doc: During this part of the exam, it's normal to experience an erection
Patient: I haven't got one
Doc: No, but I have
I'm not sure what'd be more awkward - him getting one or you getting one... That's got to be up there with inappropriate shifting when you're getting a massage.
The doc took her watch off before she did it which was reassuring.
That's fair enough; the last thing you want when she's got her hand up there is her saying "hang on, I just need to get a flashlight in there".
Strangely, I have been touched inappropriately and asked if I'd mind being part of an examination for student doctors (as in they'd come in, look at my sack, and have to work out what's wrong with me) and I was fairly unfussed about it. But I'm still anxious about the idea of having a doctor shove a finger up me. Stupid, eh?
Can I ask - what's the etiquette if you, ah, fart while the exam is going on? And do you instinctively clench to avoid that scenario?!
The finger up the bum (DRE) is also unreliable. I had PSA of 23 (really not very good). My GP couldn't feel anything at all, even the urology consultant could only detect a slight swelling. A biopsy (much bigger than a finger) showed 100% of samples contained cancer cells. I was 49 though, but with mildly suspicious symptoms, which prompted the check.
Someone had advised me to get checked a couple of years earlier after they had been diagnosed. I ignored them. That decision I do regret a bit now.
I wouldn't trust a word DrP says, I know him and he's the only person I know that buys a car on the basis of the size of the "kill room" available in the back.
That said I do still have three boxes of DrP action figures (with probing finger action) available, begging letters & death threats to the usual address please.
I had it done in my early 30's whilst living in NYC, that is now over 10 years ago and no GP in the UK has ever suggested I need a check. Probably says more about the US health system than the UK.
I read / heard recently that 80% of men over 80 are found to have cancer cells in the Prostate.
That said I do still have three boxes of [u]used[/u] DrP action figures (with probing finger action) available, begging letters & death threats to the usual address please.
FTFY
DrP
ok, I'll offer a "shop soiled" discount to interested parties
Prostate cancer is quite rare in the under 40s and pretty uncommon in your 40s, which is why screening programmes generally kick off around the 50 mark.
I can understand that you are worried given what happened to your mum, but unless there's a strong family history of prostate cancer, there may be no compelling reason to be seeking screening at your age.
That's a good link that summarises the current best US advice. They are trying to row back from a culture which led to too much screening for prostate cancer, too many false positive tests and too much unneccessary intervention, which can lead to serious damage.
A discussion with your GP might be a good idea anyhow. It could help you come to terms with your anxieties about cancer, rather than getting you started on a treadmill of regular screening tests and examinations which could fuel those anxieties rather than ease them.
As a result of a rather nasty case of Prostatitis in 2007 I had no end of fingers up my arse / CT scans / Ultrasounds / Radionuclide scintigraphy to figure out what the f*** was going on and how much the damage had been done. Took about 3 months afterwards till I could urinate properly, but the upshot was prostate fine, Kidneys now 10% scar tissue.
I think it's a bit of a shame society regards a prostate check as embarrassing, funny or probably best not talked about.
Not only is what's left of the NHS extremely proactive in offering Cervical smears to women but it is something that most people are comfortable talking about.
I've not been checked or asked to be checked (mid forties)
I've been offering checks on the train home. Seems society is still closed minded about serious diseases...
DrP
(also, on a serious note, iirc a family history of breast cancer is significant....)
woody2000 - Member
I have, and whilst not exactly pleasant
+1
it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be.
TBH it convinced me I would never enjoy anal sex....
I'd thought I'd gotten away with a (clear) blood test, but then the doctors says.....
Annoyingly it turns out my family has an extremely high propensity for cancer
From DrP's link
What is the prostate?
I never knew that. You learn something every day.
[i]up to 8 out of every 10 men may have problems getting or maintaining an erection after surgery.[/i]
[u]up to[/u] 8 out of 10? Is that a meaningful statistic??
I think I'll just continue living in ignorance.
Checks on the train home might test the ability of the British commuter to ignore everything around them. Could make sure that you always get a double seat to yourself on subsequent commutes, though.
(also, on a serious note, iirc a family history of breast cancer is significant....)
Didn't seem entirely clear-cut to me, at least not in terms of early-onset prostate cancer, which is what the OP is interested in. I'd certainly suggest that regular prostate screening after 45-50 would be a good idea for any bloke, although I can't say I'm looking forward to it much.