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I believe it's more about the origins of life on earth, rather than aliens contacting primitive earth

Indeed. The clue is in the title: [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus ]Prometheus[/url]


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:27 pm
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id say from prometheus title that its more likely the gods/aliens gave us technology/intelligence/language, which is all very [s]obelisk[/s] (i meant) monolith and and monkeys

but if its origins of life- as ridley has been hinting, we all know this was covered in both TOS and TNG 😉

either way im scared it will be a bit conrived!


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:35 pm
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Que ? Prometheus stole fire from the gods, was bound to a rock and had his eyes pecked out. Was punished further with the gift of womankind to earth, in the form of Pandora (and her box), IIRC.

Not sure where the space aliens and origins of the universe come into that story, except allegorically of course.


 
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Prometheus stole fire from the gods

And gave it to mortals thereby simulating their development.

I think the parallels are more like that of 2001 Space Odyssey where the monolith stimulates the evolution of mankind.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:41 pm
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I rewatched all four on Blu-ray last week.

First thing to note is, the whole set is a thing of beauty. The transfer is exceptional, Alien (1977) looks like it was filmed last week.

Alien Cubed I still can't bring myself to get on with. It's just a mess, and killing off two of the main characters was a serious mis-step IMHO (and pissed all over the legacy of Aliens). Why they didn't take the opportunity to make a grown-up Newt into another female lead, I'll never know. Annoyingly, early drafts of the movie centred around Hicks as the central character; that could've been cool too. Ho hum.

Alien Resurrection, however, isn't the car crash I remembered it being. Sure, it's not a great movie by any stretch, but it has its moments and it's entertaining enough. Worth a rewatch I reckon.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:47 pm
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Watched the extended Alien 3 again a couple of days ago, it's a great film.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 1:00 pm
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3 gets an (IMHO) unnecessary hard time. It's a hard act to follow Aliens.

4 is atrocious.

Spot on.

Alien 3 is a bit of a mess but makes up for it with some excellent turns from an eclectic cast of mainly british character actors.

4 is a pile of mince. The nadir being the ridiculous hybrid alien that actually looks like its was hand sculpted out of a pile of dog shite that had been lying round the set

EDIT: Oh and yes very much looking forward to Prometheus. Ridley Scott is sure to do it justice and Michael Fassbender is great in everything


 
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The nadir being the ridiculous hybrid alien

That is truly awful, TBF.

Also, good word, sir.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 1:08 pm
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I watched Aliens again the other day, it really is one of the best movies ever. Some great lines. Big crush on Hicks too, I think he was the original John Connor in Terminator ?


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:17 pm
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Almost, he was Kyle Reese, John Connor's dad. "Come with me if you want to live."

Michael Biehn. Always good value.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:25 pm
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Ah, Terminator, the greatest love story ever told. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. He travelled across time for Sarah FFS!

Prometheus had better be decent, or else. I'd agree that everything looks a bit too shiny when compared to the other films.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:44 pm
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The more I see the less interested I get. I hope RS proves me wrong but I'm expecting to be disappointed.

Mind you not Star Wars pt 1 to 3 disappointed. Watched AVP and Resurrection recently on telly. Sorry but they are both rubbish.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:50 pm
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No sorry, I'm not sorry. In my opinion they are both rubbish.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:51 pm
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Is Jim from Neighbours (or any other ex Neighbours actor) in it ? That always peps up a film for me.

Jim from Neighbours is in almost everything.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:57 pm
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This film needs to be good...as a one time nerd, I hope it's up there with the first two, The Wrath of Kahn and 2001 for nerdiness of the geek degree.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 9:09 pm
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Noticed this not been posted on this thread...


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 9:15 pm
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while the movie will take place in the same universe as Alien,

There's more than one [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe ]universe[/url]?
Indeed there may be.Everyday's a schoolday 🙂


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 9:17 pm
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Is Jim from Neighbours (or any other ex Neighbours actor) in it ?

Mike is in it but it probably does need MOAR JIMZ. I always thought Des had more potential though.....


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 10:14 pm
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Todd Carty is another criminally under utilised actor who would bring gravitas to any big Hollywood franchise.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 10:40 pm
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Alien is a classic. Bladerunner is a masterpiece. This film will be forgotten about in ten years. It'll have as much atmosphere as a bag of piss in a microwave.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 6:02 am
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Alien is a classic. Bladerunner is a masterpiece. This film will be forgotten about in ten years. It'll have as much atmosphere as a bag of piss in a microwave.

This ^

I'm excited about a new film, but the more I see the trailers the less enthusiastic I become. Part of the appeal of the previous Aliens films was the dark, dirty atmosphere. It drew the viewer into the claustrophobic environment. So far the trailers haven't conveyed enough of that.

Alien had a clever simplicity to the design of the Nostromo set. I loved the way it portrayed the living areas as white and sterile, whereas the Alien stalked the darker areas of the ship, covered with black walls and dim lighting. This really cranked up the tension when the crew ventured into these areas. Simple methods which were very effective imho. I hear that Prometheus is going to use less CG, more special effects, so there may be hope here.

The costume designer seems to have gone for a very clean, sterile look to the suits. I'm not convinced by this. It's not unlike something from the game Mass Effect. Even Alien, with the basic white suits, seemed a bit more unprotected and vulnerable.

It's all very well having great camera work and script, but if the environments and costumes aren't spot on then it will miss the mark for me.

Let's see.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 7:07 am
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Is Jim from Neighbours (or any other ex Neighbours actor) in it ?

Needs more Stefan Dennis.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 7:51 am
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I'm excited about a new film, but the more I see the trailers the less enthusiastic I become. Part of the appeal of the previous Aliens films was the dark, dirty atmosphere. It drew the viewer into the claustrophobic environment. So far the trailers haven't conveyed enough of that.

Alien had a clever simplicity to the design of the Nostromo set. I loved the way it portrayed the living areas as white and sterile, whereas the Alien stalked the darker areas of the ship, covered with black walls and dim lighting. This really cranked up the tension when the crew ventured into these areas. Simple methods which were very effective imho. I hear that Prometheus is going to use less CG, more special effects, so there may be hope here.

The costume designer seems to have gone for a very clean, sterile look to the suits. I'm not convinced by this. It's not unlike something from the game Mass Effect. Even Alien, with the basic white suits, seemed a bit more unprotected and vulnerable.

I sort of agree about your points from an entertainment/artistic point of view but putting my Mr logical head on, I'd say that by the time of the Nostromo, space travel was common and mundane and that's when it becomes dirty/messy/etc. Look at the space shuttle - it's all spotless inside - the new film is set closer to that than the Nostromo because space travel isn't so common.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 8:01 am
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I was lucky not to get chucked out of the cinema at the last Indiana Jones film. Every time he hove into the screen I couldn't help but exclaim "it's Jim, Jim from Neighbours !!" in a faux Australian accent. Personally, I think that improved the film, naught wrong with a bit of Rocky Horror Style audience participation. Perhaps I will take some speedos, boomerangs and tinnies to chuck at the screen for Prometheus, just in case.

Mike from Neighbours pops up a lot, but you are right about Des, very surprised he wasn't in one of the Star Wars films, they had Dr Hone Ropata from Shortland Street (definitely NOT in Guatemala any more).

Perhaps Daphne will make a come back soon.


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 8:09 am
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Off the topic of the film, but a fact none the less...Stephan Dennis married the daughter of a women I worked with. I worked in a Renault showroom at the time in Glasgow and he was waiting on his old beat up Saab being serviced. This was around 2004, just before he moved back to Oz & got back into Neighbours.

I hate to admit this, but I asked for his autograph for the missus, the lads behind the counter were saying to him "watch out Stephan, he's a bummer" 🙄


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 9:45 am
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Michael Fassbender is great in everything

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I'm counting on a riproaring performance


 
Posted : 19/04/2012 10:24 am
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Guy Pearce is in it !! Mike, Mike from Neighbours !! It just gets better and better.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 8:11 am
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Oops too many ex-Neighbours star mentions, I've broken the Internet.


 
Posted : 20/04/2012 9:02 am
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They should bring back Chet for this one.

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