[Closed] Prometheus

A 'few' may have been, but most have been very positive. If it weren't for its relationship to the greatest horror/sci fi film ever made (along with The Thing) then critics wouldnt have been as critical as some have been. But it's a different film, from a different decade and its not trying to be Alien. Judged alongside any other sci fi horror film other than Alien, Aliens or The Thing and it comes out very favourably indeed.

I loved it, although it isn't perfect. My main criticism is that, unlike many films, it could do with being 30 minutes longer in order to flesh out some of the peripheral characters and help the plot and pacing to develop naturally.

I wonder if there will be a director's cut version. There usually is with RS films.

after Prometheus last night I'm now watching Nude Nuns with Big Guns to see how films really should be made.

I'll go and see it, but certainly not in 3D.

The guy in LOST put me off big time so I shall watch it for free in 3 years time. I can wait so just like Avatar (2009) which I watch recently ... pile of shite to be frank.

So this will be one Alien film I have to postpone ...

LOST is shite fact!

LOST is shite fact!

Really? You haven't quite put it across previously y'see.

The Lost writer was ONE of the writers. It's not like he directed it!

I thought Lost was rubbish, but Prometheus was pretty good IMO. You're missing out with that attitude chewkw, but that's your choice.

A 'few' may have been, but most have been very positive.

Well you say that but it wasn't like I was looking for specific reviews from specific people, just whatever came on TV. And not yet seen one that didn't claim it as disappointing.

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The Lost writer was ONE of the writers. It's not like he directed it!

I thought Lost was rubbish, but Prometheus was pretty good IMO. You're missing out with that attitude chewkw, but that's your choice.

LOL! Because they have hyped it up so much I don't want to feel cheated with high expectation. I might still watch it in the next few weeks but that depends on my mood ...

No easy to find good films nowadays ...

Very good. I thought the Noomi Rapace was ace, Theron and Fassbender too. Fassbender underplayed it just right. Big matey having the drink at the start was an excellent intro, and worked really well on 3D.

All in all, better than I expected. I agree that seeing a director's cut would be cool, to flesh out some of the characters and add some detail.

Very dark and HR Gigery and enough to get your brain ticking 😀 Just what you need in an SF film

Prometheus = Lost in Space, H R Giger style.

Loved it, great film not the best I have ever seen but absolutely worth a watch. I too really hope there is a directors cut and a sequel!!

I quite enjoyed it, but my friends didn't. Someone described it as 'like The Thing making a cameo in a Tool video'.

One part that I didn't get was this...why did David deliberately contaminate Dr.Holloway? Was he acting under orders from Weyland?

WARNING: SPOILER POTENTIAL

I suspect that the whole reason for Weyland paying for the trip was in the hope that he would find a "fountain of youth" type situation, that might prolong his life, and give him something to sell.

I wonder if the contanimation was a test to see what the goo did.

So, what exactly was the point of Weyland's daughter, anyway? Apart from looking good in a skintight catsuit, that is. She did nowt except whinge.

Leading the expedition and representing "the corp". There is another reason but I think it would contain a further spoiler.

ok - i may be a biased 'Alien' geek - but i bloomin well loved it....
😀
would hold hartedly recomend it...

The alien sequels all tried to emulate Aliens - Prometheus being a prequel, doesnt - its a 'space jockey' film 1st a foremost, not a 'alien' film....

I know this may be hard to answer but looking at the trailers (I've not seen the film), the technology is way in advance of that seen in Alien, is that point explained at all or just brushed under the carpet?

Just seen it, it was ok..

there was a trailer for it on telly earlier, and it seemed to give away a fairly big spoiler.

They need to put a lid on this oversaturation and viral marketing. I was excited to see Prometheus and now I can't be arsed

I didn't understand the first bit. WHat was the dude drinking? And why did it nobble him...

I'm looking forward to seeing it tomorrow but there's some truth in this -

They need to put a lid on this oversaturation and viral marketing. I was excited to see Prometheus and now I can't be arsed

I took that to be the engineers "seeding" the Earth with the original DNA - he basically used himself as the vessel. The ooze, combined with his DNA mutated into human DNA.

I could be wrong though.

I know this may be hard to answer but looking at the trailers (I've not seen the film), the technology is way in advance of that seen in Alien, is that point explained at all or just brushed under the carpet?

Simple: The Nostromo was an industrial mining and cargo vessel. Basically an oil tanker. Whereas the Prometheus is a high-tech scientific vessel.

mikey74 +1

I reckon he was rogue though, like Prometheus in Ancient Greek mythology.

Yeah, that's a good point Buzz.

I don't mind pontificating over sh1t, forming theories and possibilities, but are there any/many glaring holes in the story/script?

such as?

Watched it tonight. Weyland's young feet upset me. As did a continuity error with David's hair dye scenes I think I spotted.

Film was pretty poor IMO from an Alien fan. Script/plot poorly held together. As said by others - trying to put too much in so the core relationships and decisions are ridiculous which spoiled it for me.

Enjoyed the noise and pictures in the Imax.

Just watched Alien on telly ... still good.

Tomorrow I will watching District 9 ... few years after it was shown in the cinema. 😆

As did a continuity error with David's hair dye scenes I think I spotted.

mrs rex reckons hair dye on / hair dye off / hair dye on was meant to suggest the length of time David had spent studying the videos.

I know this may be hard to answer but looking at the trailers (I've not seen the film), the technology is way in advance of that seen in Alien, is that point explained at all or just brushed under the carpet?

ridley scott has been questioned on this in various interviews prior to the films release - his view was that as tech has already moved way past the point of the green screens and computer graphics of Alien it would make Prometheus seem like a step backwards, he backs this up by saying that if he had the tech to do head up displays and fancy comupter stuff to teh Nostromo in 1979 he would - he was just limited by time, tech, and budget.

I don't mind pontificating over sh1t, forming theories and possibilities, but are there any/many glaring holes in the story/script?

which are?

I took that to be the engineers "seeding" the Earth with the original DNA - he basically used himself as the vessel. The ooze, combined with his DNA mutated into human DNA.

One part that I didn't get was this...why did David deliberately contaminate Dr.Holloway?

I wondered too. Perhaps just as an experiment, but also maybe he had a thing (if robots at the time could...) for Noomi..?

I think Mr Wayland instructed him to do it - to see what would happen. At this point in the film remember they havent found any living space jockeys (Mr Waylands goal) so if they could come away with a DNA tech they could gain more value from the mission.
In the later 'Alien' films the Wayland corp is obsessed with genetic mutation/aliens etc, this helps tie the films together a bit more - the act of David infecting Dr.H also reaffirms that 'robots are bad' and leads into Alien quite nicely.

I don't mind pontificating over sh1t, forming theories and possibilities, but are there any/many glaring holes in the story/script?

which are?

I don't think they are suggesting that robots are bad, per se, just that they are tools to be used. Hence why in Prometheus, Alien, and Aliens the robot starts off being used by "the corp" to do their bidding, but later on end up helping the hero - kinda like a sci-fi Smithers (Simpsons reference).

That is an interesting point monkeyboy, and I agree that the engineer reacted as he did because we were seen as nothing more than an annoyance, and experiment that went wrong.

Personally speaking I prefer to believe that their original intensions that lay behind creating us were based on somewhat loftier ideals than mere biological warefare experimentation (I don't think the distances they had to travel to Earth would have been convenient enough for mere experimentation). I may be wrong; it wouldn't be the first time 🙂

B.A.Nana - it would depend on your point of view - there are a couple small ones (as with many many films), but nothing major.

with the small ones its more of a case of questions unanswered than plot holes.

It was a question, not a statement.

Sorry, I mis-read. I don't thing there are any plot holes, it's just that things are not fully explained. Personally, I prefer it when they don't neatly wrap everything up at the end. Things are hinted at, rather than explained, leaving space for, as you can tell, alot of debate and independent thought, which is good.

 

Hence why in Prometheus, Alien, and Aliens the robot starts off being used by "the corp" to do their bidding, but later on end up helping the hero

Prometheus - David is only bad when under the influence of Wayland
Alien - Ash, the Robot is bad from start right untill he gets his head lobbed off - although he is working under a seperate ajenda for Wayland during this time.
Aliens - Bishop is good...
Alien 3 - Bishop is good...
Alien Reserection - Winona Ryder's character Annalee has become part of the resistance, giving robots more independance and free thinking

Whoah up boys way to many spoilers.

your [b]4 pages[/b] into to thread called Prometheus -of corse theres gonna be spoilers..... 🙄 😀

Edited after spoiling complaint

😀 - unfortunatly that was how it was billed prior to release....

I saw it yesterday and as a massive Alien geek I thought it was excellent. Visually stunning.

It tied into the existing storyline nicely and leaves the door open for more