[Closed] Porsche Macan

This'll go well.

Dear God man do you know what you have done?

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😀

Get the hateproof glass, or is that standard ?

I didn't know what it was.

I Googled.

Oh dear.

It's like a slightly more unattractive Nissan Juke.

Five pages.

It's like a slightly more unattractive Nissan Juke.

I think that's a bit unfair on the Juke....

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It's like a slightly more unattractive Nissan Juke.

[s]Impossible.[/s]

Wait that photo says otherwise.

A friend of mine has one and really likes it although they are pretty small inside. He says that it's a very nice drive.

Porsche optional extra's? All expensive! Good multi function seats and LED lights are decent options. Being a Porsche you'll probably have to pay for the rear wiper and sat nav.

I think the Macan looks pretty good as far as SUVs go, they could have done the front grill a bit better though.

Doesn't it share a petform with the Audio Q5? Maybe I made that up, meant to drive & ride very well

FuzzyWuzzy - Member

I think the Macan looks pretty good as far as SUVs go, they could have done the front grill a bit better though.

Same here, it's easily the nicest looking 'SUV by a maker who shouldn't make SUVs' SUV.

One of my wife's relatives has got one, no clue about the options you should get or avoid - I'd try Pistonheads for that, but she loves hers. Seems expensive for a Q5 clone, but then the Q5 is hardly cheap either.

I just googled it too. Wish I hadn't.

100% douchemobile.

OP great car, had a long test drive in one. I have a Cayman S and it isn't just marketing to say the drive was modelled on that car, except with more comfort and less noise (can be good and bad). If you want one worth buying now and getting price guaranty as it is bound to go up 10% sooner or later.

I will try and dig out the spec sheet we did with dealer and post a link here. We didn't buy as petrol wait list was still 9 months and we did not want a diesel (2-3 months or cancelled orders for immediate delivery). Also as I keep cars 10 years we think a LHD might be more useful (wife French, lots of time spent in Alps, long road trips etc)

My preferences (main ones)

Petrol 🙂
Panoramic Roof
Dynamic Suspension
Metallic

Other thoughts

Sports exhaust - stock car is very understated, I like listening to the car

Sat Nav we didn't want but dealer will press you on that for "resale" I don't have in my 9 year old car fwiw

Needs more buttons. Count them.... 😯
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If you want people to dislike you, just buy this instead. Simple:

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If you want people to dislike you, just buy this instead

Gosh, that's really quite unpleasant looking.

I have a Cayman S

Why did you have to say that? You, of all people.

Trundles off to contemplate what new daft mid life crisis car to covet.

Seems expensive for a Q5 clone, but then the Q5 is hardly cheap either.

It's a far superior car to Q5 imho and £10k cheaper than a Q7

@matt agreed that centre consol is a weak point of the car

Gosh, that's really quite unpleasant looking.

It's worse from behind, Johnners. And the M version of it is.....quite remarkable. Ostentatious is a kind description.

Brother bought one for his wife and she seems to like it nice enough. Dont think shes managed to hit anything in it either which is quite good for her! He chose it so it must be fairly decent as he's a huge snob about his cars and does millions of days of research before hand!

Don't see the point. Like its trying too hard to fit a gap in the market that doesn't really exist.

Why did you have to say that? You, of all people.

Trundles off to contemplate what new daft mid life crisis car to covet.

My pride and joy, rather OCD with it. 40k mikes. Worth £18k now (more to me but plenty of nice ones for that or less).

A few STWers have them or have had in the past.

At least the buttons are all in similar places, unlike some that appear to have had a designer with shotgun full of buttons sat in back seat.....

Don't see the point. Like its trying too hard to fit a gap in the market that doesn't re

Smaller 4 door Porsche. Cayenne is Porsche's best selling model like it or not (I don't personally but understand others do)

Generally I view small SUVs as elevated hatchbacks.

That said, a colleague's wife has one (he's still got his old 997). Looks pretty mice - certainly nicer than a Q5 -but presumably comes with usual Porsche foibles (i.e. expensive options and unreliable).

In spite of having the wherewithal, I can't bring myself to spend this much on any car!

Enjoy it if you get one and ignore the [s]hysterical idiots[/s] Skoda Octavia drivers on here!

Cayenne is Porsche's best selling model like it or not

True, shame Porsche is losing its identity.

jambalaya - Member

Don't see the point. Like its trying too hard to fit a gap in the market that doesn't re

Smaller 4 door Porsche. Cayenne is Porsche's best selling model like it or not (I don't)

This, it might seem odd to sports car fans, and frankly westerners, but it will out-sell 911s, Caymans and Boxsters collectively, probably a few times over.

My brother has a Macan S.

Everything is an optional extra, even the physical dipstick.. (yep, really..)

To be honest, I think there are much better value similar options out there that I'd consider before the Macan.

I actually quite like the new Jaguar F-Pace..

A lot of people will insist that already happened, in 1998.

I think the Macan looks pretty good, I'd never spend that much on a car though. And starting a "Ooh, look at me I'm thinking of getting a Porsche!" wouldn't be high on my list of things-to-do either.

[i]jambalaya[/i]

If you want one worth buying now and getting price guaranty as it is bound to go up 10% sooner or later.

As to the car - had a test drive in one the other weekend. Not massive inside but did drive very nicely. However I think there's a monumental waiting list for them which put us off. For similar money we got a second hand low mileage RS6 which is miles better (faster, more space, makes cool noises).

Also keep in mind that Porsche adopt the BMW model of customer service. When it goes wrong (and it will) it won't be their fault in any shape or form. They're bloody terrible for it.

Went to car fest south this year and sat in a Jaguar F-Pace, I'm 5' 10" (just) and sat behind a 5' 10" driver left me with a very very small amount of leg room.

For such a big car the inside is very tight/cramped.

My son plays a full size tuba nd the only car at car fest that we'd be able to fit it in and not totally fill the boot was a Volvo XC90, when I sat in the driver's seat my son who is 6' tall had loads of space when behind the driver seat.

I was hoping to buy something small and fun but....

Surprised it's not already been mentioned, but I suggest you get the optional indicators.

OP I can't find the spec sheet. As I said we didn't actually buy. Have friends with one and they love it, sold 911 & Discovery to buy one car.

Just re-did it online from memory and it comes out at £6,600 options for £52,500 I think for a Macan S inc navigation (we piced it without)

Air suspension, panoramic roof, nav system, simple leather interior (small things like embossed headrests and coloured wheel insets I like), metallic, larger fuel tank (free). We wanted the active suspension for comfort on long journeys and also stuck with standard sized wheels for same reason.

Did not add expensive seat options, I have Bose in my car and only listen to the car, 5-Live or Radio 4 so spending on that is your preference

It's not designed as a big car though is it? It's a performance hatchback with higher suspension

Not driven one but the reviews on the way it drives are excellent

4 wheel drives usually give off the impression of being big, but there's a lot of running gear in a 4 wheel drive

A parent at my sons school has one. Sounds lovely, but looks a bit as though a giant has stood on it.

I would try a Porsche forum or pistonheads for decent advice.

Does anyone own one and if so what are your thoughts or optional extras you'd recommend

Do they offer a normalised level of perceived self importance as an option? How about optional shares in a hair dressing salon? Optional advise how to not be an obnoxious little sh*t perhaps?

I've had a couple of Macans as courtesy cars while mine has been in for service.
Good bits:
Looks nice
Handles very very well
Goes like a rocket (in Turbo guise)
Decent boot
Gearbox fab

Bad bits:
Only good for a family of 4 or less
The S is not as fast as I thought it would be (but that's comparing it to the Turbo which is bonkers)
Fairly thirsty - best I could do with the petrol S was about 27mpg driving like gran on the motorway. My Cayenne would get 36 at the same speed.

Oh and Jamba...

@matt agreed that centre consol is a weak point of the car

OP best options* I have are air suspension (really good), panoramic roof, heated seats and heated windscreen. One's I'm not so bothered about are the 21" wheels and embossed headrests.

My previous car was an XC90 that I kept for 12 years and [sorry haterz] the Cayenne is the best car I've ever had ..... I wouldn't touch a Jag with yours now.

* I didn't choose them as I bought a 2yo car.

I went out in a Macan the other week as I was looking at one and was really disappointed.

It's a Q5 underneath with some modifications to make it drive better. I'd looked at the Merc GLC about half an hour before the Macan and couldn't help but think apart from the power the GLC was a better car all round. For the £20000 saving I will most likely go with the GLC or wait for the new shape SQ5 to appear.

They look much better in the flesh than in any pics I have seen.

Dunno anything about them, but I quite like them.

The anti-car/SUV sentiment on here makes me laugh....some of you seem so angry about everything....

That is a very handsome car.
If I was going through my mid life crisis all over again, I'd have one.. probably in brown or that sublime golden bronze they do.

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And the bronze one..
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The anti-car/SUV sentiment on here makes me laugh....some of you seem so angry about everything....

+1.

I like the Macan - it would be on my shortlist if I had the means...

The anti-expensive car sentiment on here is just the same as the anti-expensive bike sentiment. Totally unjustified.
Someone has to pay for these expensive items so that the research costs for the new technology in them can be recouped by the firms, in turn allowing the technology to trickle down to the less expensive end of the market. You are *mostly* all driving cars / riding bikes that benefit from this trickle down effect so stop whinging when someone says they have a fancy bike/car. Small mindedness at its best!

I like the Macan - it would be on my shortlist if I had the means..

It [i]is[/i] a very good looking car given the constraints of being a soft roader.
I'd buy one if I could find a good one for a lot less than the new price.
Are they small? They look small, and a smart,comfy, quick, small car is what I need...

I'd buy one if I could find a good one for a lot less than the new price.

They're not [i]that[/i] small.

@somouk - is it correct that the onky GLC you can get in petrol is the AMG @ £48k ? I asume you where comparing a Diesel GLC with Diesel S Macan ? Price difference is more like £10k no ?

They're not that small.

They look small.

It is a very good looking car given the constraints of being a soft roader.
I'd buy one if I could find a good one for a lot less than the new price.

Second hand prices where higher than new as wait list was 24 months, now "just" 3-9 depending diesel vs petrol.

As Shark says it's not small and boot not bad

As for expensive remember there is £10k VAT on one helping to pay for schools and hospitals. I also pay £500 a year road tax for a car that does 3,000-,4000 miles.

I have no practical input as I'll never buy one, but I would say that as far as the current trend in sporty crossovers goes they're one of the best looking ones.

They're about Tiguan sized aren't they? (Experience of dodging both in traffic whilst riding my bike in Birmingham)

I'm not anti expensive cars, I am anti fugly ones and Porsche SUVs fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down

The Cayenne certainly did, but not the Macan

Size - in external measurements they are only slightly smaller than a Cayenne, styling differences mean they look smaller and also do have less interior / boot as a result.

Tiguan size is a reasonable comparison I think.

The orignal Cayenne was a shocker, the new model looks pretty good imo

@somouk - is it correct that the onky GLC you can get in petrol is the AMG @ £48k ? I asume you where comparing a Diesel GLC with Diesel S Macan ? Price difference is more like £10k no ?

Yes, I was comparing diesels, I think the only GLC you can get in petrol is the GLC43 in AMG spec.

20k was an exaggeration granted but list prices start at about 7k difference for base models and I think if you went for similar powered top end cars the Merc was 48k and the Porsche 62k so 13k difference. Once you start looking at options that would probably grow further.

Me no like, if you are going down that route then I'd rather a Jaguar F-Pace.

@somo OK, was checking Merc website as you got my interest 🙂 I have never owned a Merc and historically have preferred Audi inc over BMW but Merc are heading in a direction I like. I have family who just bought an A-Class (got a decent discount on a 6 month old car) and a friend looking at a GLA. Both nice.

All said and done I'd sell my Cayman for a Macan but would rather have a cheap "bike car" than sell it for a Merc/Audi etc. Another reason I was cautious about Macan is I can't see myself putting a ditry bike in the back

I have always thought Merc>BMW>Audi, but the new mercs are too blobby, yes I know they're better now than they were but they've slipped to second purely down to looks.

They would have slipped to third as I'm liking the looks of the new Audis but to many are driven by knobs round this way.

The anti-expensive car sentiment on here is just the same as the anti-expensive bike sentiment. Totally unjustified.
Someone has to pay for these expensive items so that the research costs for the new technology in them can be recouped by the firms, in turn allowing the technology to trickle down to the less expensive end of the market. You are *mostly* all driving cars / riding bikes that benefit from this trickle down effect so stop whinging when someone says they have a fancy bike/car. Small mindedness at its best!

Fair enough. Thanks to all those buying expensive cars, thanks. You're making my life much, much better.

prawny

I'm liking the looks of the new Audis but to many are driven by knobs round this way.

You must live round my way.

It's irrelevant how expensive these cars are as most of the drivers don't actually buy them, and those that do are not very clever. They'll mostly be company cars or on a lease or PCP type deal. The car you drive is no indication of your wealth. I know people who are definitely not very wealthy at all and earn very average salaries, live in modest 3 bedroom semi's, but drive around in very expensive cars. It's all about the amount of credit you can leverage, and what sacrifices you're prepared to make and what you are prepared to do without in the rest of your life.

All this talk of Porsche on an Audi forum, must say I'm surprised. Have just been invited to the launch of something called a Panamera only this very lunchtime did I open the envelope. They must have mistaken me for me from a another life a long time ago on a planet far far away.

I'd never buy a Porsche again if I live forever. T5 man me.

I'm liking the looks of the new Audis but to many are driven by knobs round this way.

Oh you mean like the princess who pulled out on me last night?

most of the drivers don't actually buy them, and those that do are not very clever.

I know people who are definitely not very wealthy at all and earn very average salaries, live in modest 3 bedroom semi's, but drive around in very expensive cars.

All this talk of Porsche on an Audi forum, must say I'm surprised 😀

 

They'll mostly be company cars or on a lease or PCP type deal. The car you drive is no indication of your wealth. I know people who are definitely not very wealthy at all and earn very average salaries, live in modest 3 bedroom semi's, but drive around in very expensive cars.

Might I ask what it matters if they choose to have a small house and more expensive cars? Is there some formula I am unaware of that links the two purchases?

Realistically as well it doesn't matter whether the car is leased, PCP'd or paid for with cash, you've still had to stump up a fair wedge of your own cash to get in to a vehicle like that, whether you chose to buy that car as an extension of your personality or as a tool is a different matter.

I think these are the people that are not so clever.

Nah, they just have different priorities...

...ones that I don't understand or empathise with at all, but I'm sure they justify it to themselves one way or another. You gets your kicks where you can and all that.

I know people who are definitely not very wealthy at all and earn very average salaries, live in modest 3 bedroom semi's, but [s]drive around in very expensive cars[/s] have a shedful of very expensive pushbikes, probably costing much more that the average car would cost

The spurious comparisons with owning expensive bikes always gets trotted out - one year of depreciation on an expensive car would buy you a couple of expensive bikes. Those with a shedfull of them have probably bought them over many years during which the car owners have bought several cars. There is no realistic comparison in terms of pissing money away.

I own several expensive (when originally bought) bikes - even if you add what I've also spent on cars it's still less than what most people spend on boring ordinary cars.

I seen one painted bubble gum pink on west side of Edinburgh the other day 😯

Must be custom ? Unless it's an option on order 🙄

The anti-car/SUV sentiment on here makes me laugh....some of you seem so angry about everything....

I like cars.
And the engineers, designers and companies that make cars better.

But a sporty SUV is a poorly conceived compromise dreamt up to fulfill the narcissistic fantasies of those who know or care nothing about engineering and design.
No decent, genuine automotive engineer would built something so pointless or crass unless the market demanded it.

I've nothing against expensive cars, or bikes.
But I do hate ugly cars that wear their inefficiency and awful design compromises as a badge of pride.

Owning one says, to me, that the driver values image over substance.
Not a quality I find attractive in people.

Perhaps that's why no one, apart from the owners, seems to like them.

Just my opinion.
And I'm not angry btw.
🙂

But a sporty SUV is a poorly conceived compromise dreamt up to fulfill the narcissistic fantasies of those who know or care nothing about engineering and design.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that engineering springs from what the client wants - be it a bridge, fighter plane, SUV or kettle. A design brief, cost and functionality, and go for it. Marketing says a sporty SUV is what's needed, and an engineer builds it and a designer makes it look desirable.

You want purity of purpose do maths or arts.

Autoexpress hated it.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/macan

No, actually they loved it.

aracer - Member
Surprised it's not already been mentioned, but I suggest you get the optional indicators.

Marketing says a sporty SUV is what's needed, and an engineer builds it and a designer makes it look desirable

Then it's back to marketing to make some punters think buying one's a good idea.

Rusty Spanner - Member
But a sporty SUV is a poorly conceived compromise dreamt up to fulfill the narcissistic fantasies of those who know or care nothing about engineering and design.
No decent, genuine automotive engineer would built something so pointless or crass unless the market demanded it.

I've nothing against expensive cars, or bikes.
But I do hate ugly cars that wear their inefficiency and awful design compromises as a badge of pride.

Owning one says, to me, that the driver values image over substance.
Not a quality I find attractive in people.

Perhaps that's why no one, apart from the owners, seems to like them.

Just my opinion.
And I'm not angry btw.

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this M2 v Macan Turbo[/url]

That fat bloke makes the M2's seat look a bit flimsy...

[quote=mogrim ]You seem to be ignoring the fact that engineering springs from what the client wants - be it a bridge, fighter plane, SUV or kettle. A design brief, cost and functionality, and go for it. Marketing says a sporty SUV is what's needed, and an engineer builds it and a designer makes it look desirable.
You want purity of purpose do maths or arts.

I agree with you and have made similar arguments, but it doesn't stop marketing led engineering being a bit shit.

Rusty Spanner hits the nail on the head. In my limited experience, sporty SUV's seem to be driven almost entirely by narcissistic, selfie and status obsessed school mums or WAG wannabes, or the just retired smaller stature male suffering from a good dose of 'angry small man syndrome'. Just my observations though from round this way so in no way a representative national sample 😆

SUVs are just cars that optimise for things like being able to see over other cars, ease of getting in and out, or ground clearance, rather than fuel economy or ease of parking etc. Nobody says an estate car is 'poorly designed' just because you can only see the arse of the car in front through the windscreen. All car designs are 'compromised'.