If installing a wall hung loo, is a stud partition wall strong enough? Do you alwyas use a metal frame ([url= http://www.bathstore.com/products/wall-hung-wc-s-frame-inc-top-access-dual-flush-cistern-1905.html ]like this[/url])
Is it worth the extra expense and hassle I wonder? Will a hefty tenant just wreck it?
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I'm speaking from the perspective of a photographer who has shot a lot of bathrooms with wall hung toilets and sinks etc.
These things are heavy then add your weight to it. No way a stud wall could take the weight. Metal frame is a must for a stud wall.
For set photography of this kind we use 18mm chip board and screw into wooden batons. Even then they don't feel that secure.
I've fitted quite a few, well more than 10. I'd use a frame system everytime, even then you have to double plasterboard or use a cement board/ plywood.
You could build a big ass wood frame and then board it, but have you thought about what sort of cistern is going in there (metal frames usually come with cistern designed for front access) or how to hold the pan to the wall (you need to hide the end of the bolts somehow)?
ditto - done many, metal frame is the way forward. Make sure the frame is tight against the wall so that the sheet material is trapped between the pan and frame, and also ensure the frame is well fixed in a few places.
Metal frame, then they usually recommend double plasterboard on the face
Thanks, the metal frame can be held by a stud wall though can't it? The ones I've looked at seems to extend back as though attached to solid wall.
Just fitting more than 100 of these at the mo on my site (I am PM). Def want to use a Gerberit frame. Don't try to bolt the pan to the wall. With a frame you can't get it wrong.
Frame can bolt back to studding, to a wall or even to virtually fresh-air.
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I used a metal frame. The Gerberit one worked well. Easy plumbing. Easy levelling and truing. Easily anchored to floor and brick. Will mount on studs too.
And what EasyGirl said. The double thickness gives a very stable deformation-resistant surface for your tiles and prevents them cracking as the pan presses against them. Or it provides extra robustness if you're only painting. Having said that, I used Marmox board on the walls.
rented property?.. stay well clear they ll be doing swan dives off it.. keep it simple.
I did three in our house by building a strong wood frame from studwork bolted to the wall with the Geberit cistern inside then the pan bolted to that. The measuring took a bit of time first time round but the frames are solid and don't move and cost me almost nothing as I used studding from an internal wall we removed. The steel fames are of course much much quicker and easier but I've found that they do flex.
Ten years down the line the frames are still solid and don't move even when Grandma plumps down on the bog.
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The pan is a Laufen Compact Pro, very compact indeed for space-saving.
if you haven't bought it yet then fit a back to wall instead, much less hassle and similar effect with no visible cistern. metal frame is a must if you do
I used the Geberit metal frame with cistern. Lots of options to secure but I would have thought the frame needs to secure directly to the stud. Face with 2x12mm plasterboard (Geberit Recommendation) Any facing Tiles must obviously be as flat as possible. The Geberit Cistern is great, all serviceable through the flush plate & very neat when finished-good (adjustable) dual flush too. Pricey but worth it. The wall hung loo really makes it easy to clean & combined with a semi-pedestal basin opens out our small bathroom.