[Closed] Pepper Spray?

true love gives oven cleaner.

I thought it was illegal to own?

Section five firearm

You can order it over the internet, but they'll knock on your door and nick you for it, expect a hearty jail sentence, and don't pick up the soap 😀

Is Pepper spray legal to carry? I'd focus on the walking home lone late at night. Even a grown 6ft male could fall victim to physical assault.

I believe that folk who read meters get given "dog repellant spray", no idea what's in it though as I've never mugged a meter reader! 😀

Just to add. Someone who is intent on violent rape or murder isnt going to give a girl a chance to reach into her handbag (i.e. incase she reaches for her mobile let alone fumble for a pepper spray).

If someone twice as physically strong came at you- would your first reaction be to reach into your pocket or scream and pap yourself?

Just to add. Someone who is intent on violent rape or murder isnt going to give a girl a chance to reach into her handbag (i.e. incase she reaches for her mobile let alone fumble for a pepper spray).

See where you're coming from, but many MANY rape victims report the rapist/mgger following them for a notable period of time.

My first reaction would be to run, then to find a weapon and not to stop until they're disabled.

Zeta-Eleven is correct!

Relgex or Deepheat sprays are supposed to have a similar effect to pepper sprays but without the legal to carry problem.

Zulu-Eleven
Section five firearm

You can order it over the internet, but they'll knock on your door and nick you for it, expect a hearty jail sentence, and don't pick up the soap

Nice if that was true, a mate got pepper sprayed in a nightclub by a bouncer and ended up with a chemical burn to his eye, and even with double digit witnesses (most sober, and lawyers) to the assault the Police still didn't do anything about it.

Isn't it actually illegal to carry anything like with the purpose of using it to harm someone else, even if it is in self defence? Or did I just imagine that? Either way it'd be a daft law imo

Absolutely illegal to be carrying around pepper/pava/cs sprays

It's covered under section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act, but it is not a firearm as defined by the act, rather "noxious liquid gas or other thing"

You'd be in the poo if you were caught with it as you'd have no lawful authority to be possession of it

Would surely be considered similar to "going equipped". Any object can be classified as a weapon if it is used correctly. Even rolled up newspaper.

Going equipped is to do with carrying things to be used for burglary,theft, cheat (ie. fraud) or criminal damage (recent addition).

Your scenario is covered by the definition of an offensive weapon.

Any object can be classified as a weapon if it is used correctly. Even rolled up newspaper.

Yeah, but I'd have to prove your intent to use a rolled up newspaper as a weapon in order to nick you for off weaps, as it's an 'intended' offensive weapon in that respect. If you had a knuckle duster on you for example, that's 'made' offensive weapon and I wouldn't have to prove your intent to use it, just your possession of it is enough

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thegreatape - indeed, that's why I said "similar" 🙂

kato - yup, of course.

chuck is correct i think, its called going equiped.
personally, i wouldnt be worried that you cant have pepper spray, if she gets the chance to use it, the difference of effect between a faceful of pepper spray, and a face full of rattle can paint or ralgex (good suggestion trailseeker) would be minimal.
its still gonna sting like blazes.
at least with one of those mini ralgex sprays, she can claim its cause she was on her way to the gym or something.

Rather than a weapon of any type, how a bout self defence classes?
MrsPP walks home through some odd unlit areas, and yes I got a bit jumpy.

But she took up kick boxing, so I'm more relaxed now. Apparently the blokes in her class don't like fighting her.... 😯

Blokes never like fighting women, it feels very odd to fight a woman in kickboxing. My other half is a black belt kung fu but I dont really like and she doesnt really like walking home in the dark/alone anyway - it's not the cure-all it may seem.

Olly, you can't 'go equppied' with a weapon. The offence of going equipped is going equipped for [u]stealing[/u] s.25 Theft Act.

THis would be possession of an offensive weapon

carrying an offensive weapon then?

its not to do with the object, its to do with whether the police think your gonna do bad things with it.

you cant go wandering around at night with an Axe without expecting to be stopped and challenged, but its not a weapon its a tool for chopping trees down....

Not at night it's not. Everyone knows that real lumberjacks sleep all night.

Any object can be an 'intended' offensive weapon for the purposes of the act Olly.

If you were out wandering around town at night with an axe, i'd arrest you for off weaps, or at the very least points & blades as you couldn't possibly have reasonable excuse or lawful authority for having it with you at that time.

If it was in the day and you were by some trees and you worked as a tree surgeon, you'd have reasonable excuse for example

If it is your daughter. Suggest a Cage fighter or large sky-blue with violet dots and a lemon brocade male as suitable boyfriend material.

Anything can be classed as on offensive weapon - for example a tin of oven cleaner spray or cheap nasty perfume if the [b]intent[/b] is to use it as a weapon. Intent is a complex legal area, ultimately left to the magistrates/jury to decide, however the police can still arrest if they have good reason to suspect you're carrying it as a weapon - if you were carrying a can of oven cleaner home from the shops with your shopping, you'd be in the clear - if it had been sitting in your handbag for six months and you're stopped at ten at night walking home from the pub, then you're going to get nicked.

Pepper or CS spray however are classed as prohibited weapons, you need a special licence, or other specific home office authority (such as being a member of the police on duty) to carry it - the police don't need to prove intent, found with it, you're nicked.

"Suggest a Cage fighter or large black male as suitable boyfriend material"

What has skin colour got to do with it?

What has skin colour got to do with it?

It's nothing racialist from Hora, just a fantasy he's working on

Whoopsies, there. Amended for Poopsies.

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Has anyone seen or used Stoppa Red, what do you think, better than Reglex as it's designed for the job, but legal?