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I have never really noticed much difference in Pogba for united or France, he just drifts around making the odd nice pass for either team. It's just that the French team as a whole has a much higher work rate which creates the space for him to do it and make more of an impact, it isn't that he changes when he puts on the blue.
For me the difference between rank average Pogba at United and World Cup winning Pogba for France is obvious - Ngolo Kante
He was great at Juventus too......McFred eh!
Seems the FA are, predictably, doubling down on their stupidity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60873713
“enhance their journeys” ****ing morons.
RM.
Good result for Ireland against the number 1 side in the world.
That should never have been a penalty.
tricky - hand and arm was away from the body but anyone jumping without using their arms looks like they're pogoing at a Pistols gig in the 70's and will never win a header anyway.
By the laws it was a penalty - it's the law that's wrong not the decision.
Seems the FA are, predictably, doubling down on their stupidity.
As always! They’re consistent, if nothing else.
Wouldn’t it be great if both sets of fans boycotted the match and the stadium was empty apart for the prawn sandwich brigade in the corporate seats?
I can think of no more appropriate comment on the FA. It would be the perfect illustration of their priorities and all they care about
Oh FFS I'm bored shiteless already.
Just get Rod to do it!
I turned on the draw but there appears to be some kind of game show on
I already hate absolutely everything about this World Cup! 😡
Can't they get that octopus to pull the balls out again or did i dream that?
Lotthar Matthaus has come back from the future to **** someone's group up
[yep, Spain's]
Clear group of death in Group E
That was a bit of a result for Brentford!
We’ve started this game with no striker and playing Bruno as a centre forward. The same line up and formation as against City, because it worked so well then, why wouldn’t you?
You just have to hope you get the Leicester that are crap today, they are really a Jekyll and Hyde team this year, so Utd could breeze this, or have a real nightmare. At least Vardy is out, he always seems to buzz about against the likes of Utd.
Absolutely woeful, as expected. Can’t string two passes together and completely toothless
Pogba has graduated from being too lazy to track back to now being too lazy to make any serious effort to even stay onside or play a pass anywhere near another United player.
Interesting insane fact: When Pogba leaves on a free in the summer, in transfer fees and wages he will have cost us 200 million quid
Bargain!
And now McTomminay is doing his best to get sent off
At least you're back on level terms now, although looking a bit out of shape, Leicester are not looking great at the back, especially with Evans off, but ManU are taking ages to work out how to attack them.
At least you got a point Binners, almost got three if it wasn't for Elanga's last ditch tackle on Rashford ;o)
Mediocre result for Reading but luckily we don't have Pogba to walk around like a bored hippie.
Ah, Pogba is happy enough, the lad is on £300,000 a week and will be picking up another nice contract no matter how bad he plays, i can see him at PSG, just think they'll lose a couple of their stars and need to appease the fans, so the likes of Pogba are always lucky that there's things more than form that decide on contracts!
Did enjoy Ragnicks masterstroke of using his last sub to swap out Pogba for Matic when they were chasing the win, they need to forget this new manager nonsense and get him signed up to a multi year contract ;o)
Semis at Wembley, if the fans don't want it they shouldn't be there! I remember the first Wembley semi, spurs Vs Woolwich 1991. Fa said it would be the only fixture played at Wembley ... Made no sense for North London to travel to villa and Stamford bridge was too small. It was great, I was 18 and one of 40k spurs fans watching as gazza scored THAT goal from a free kick miles out and we killed Woolwich's double hopes. It wasn't too hard to get a ticket, but a final ticket was impossible, to a semi at Wembley made sense. Following year or happened again, spurs Vs Woolwich. The other semi was Sheffield, Wednesday Vs United. They should have gone to Old Trafford but no, they complained they should get a Wembley day.... Then it got locked in. On the plus side, the semis are all tickets to the two clubs so they are much more obtainable at face value. However, if the fans don't want to play at Wembley..... Then why play there!
The Bosman rule is so wrong sometimes. You could not perform so poorly and still get paid such an outrageous salary in the real world.
Pogba’s agent has taken full advantage of the utterly clueless culture at United, as have many others. Harry Maguire’s agent must have been incredulous that United wanted to pay 80 million for such a mediocre defender. Alexis Sanchez agent negotiated him a 400,000 quid a week contract
Absolute madness!
Van Gaal was bang on with what he said about United this week. In amongst all this marketing and money they’ve forgotten they’re actually meant to be a football club who are meant to be competing at the top level. It’s amazing that during all these terrible years of their ownership, the Glazers don’t understand that any more now than they did when they turned up, uninvited,
United will never be anywhere near the level of the top clubs while these money-grubbing idiots are in charge. Competing for that last champions league spot is the height of their ambition, and even then it’s for purely financial reasons. They haven’t got a clue!
I disagree, it's not the owners alone at fault. They've backed Utd hugely with money. I'm not sure how it's their fault.
I doubt the owners decided on Pogba, I doubt they decided on many signings in honesty.
I think you're looking for someone to blame, but it's just the players and coaches who are really at fault.
But surely the owners should put a management structure in to avoid these mistakes happening time after time. Look at Liverpool right now, they've barely made a bad signing in 4 or 5 years as Klopp doesn't have final say on transfers
But surely the owners should put a management structure in to avoid these mistakes happening time after time. Look at Liverpool right now, they’ve barely made a bad signing in 4 or 5 years as Klopp doesn’t have final say on transfers
To an extent of course yes, but they've had plenty of managers, plenty of coaches and plenty of players. So something clearly isn't working. But an owner can't make a good player bad or a bad player good.
Sure they've bought some lemons, but they've also bought and turned good footballers into bad.
They've even single handedly destroyed more than a couple of careers. Look at players like Sancho, Lingard, Van Der beek etc, all cracking players who completely failed when they really ought not to. How's that the owners fault?
ManU just need to get the right team in place, a manager is good, but where City, Liverpool, etc have overtaken ManU is in getting the backroom staff and support structure in place to make running the club a bit easier for the manager. It also stops the player dissent in the dressing room, which is something you always hear about at ManU, with 'player revolts' against Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, etc.
As for the manager, whoever comes in next year will have a rebuild straight out the gate, ManU need to get a good starting 11 on that pitch, and some of the players on the books to find real form, which could happen if the right signings are made and frees them up to their proper positions. But i think everyone knows what they need and how much it'll cost, i think Declan Rice's price keeps going up everytime ManU lose or draw!
Do you not think the culture of a club matters?
We have absentee owners who’ve never appeared to care what goes on on the pitch as long as the money keeps rolling in enough to keep personally enriching themselves, a chief exec who reflects that ethos. A manager who’s only a stop gap, filling time before taking his handsomely remunerated position as director of whatever, who sticks with an inexplicable starting line up, then doesn’t seem unduly bothered that it, entirely predictably, doesn’t work.
The squad is a sorry collection of overpaid journeymen, who are just there for a payday and show little enthusiasm for actually playing football. What player, if they really wanted to compete for silverware, would go to Old Trafford? Or manager, for that matter?
As usual, only 3 people turned up yesterday. De Gea (god only knows how we’ve kept him), Bruno (despite being played out of position, at least he tried) and (I can’t believe I’m saying this…) Fred.
The rest of them… ? Absolutely pathetic!
The only redeeming feature about yesterday was that I stuck a couple of quid on a draw at 4/1, as I didnt think for a second we’d beat Leicester at home. How sad is that?
Anyway… I’ll be watching Moyes and his team of motivated players as they no doubt dismantle a squad that seem to possess all the same qualities as ours, then Spurs probably be Spursy and fail to take advantage of us tripping up again
Lots of clubs are ran that way, not just Manchester United. I'd reckon good management and committed players could overcome absentee owners.
Players deliberately not performing are untouchable, that is so wrong.
It's weird, they finished second last year, were on the up and brought in Ronaldo in the summer, now they have too many misfiring players and the other teams have all suddenly just become better, but at least that does say you could be back next year, another Fernandes style instant hit signing can do wonders, and a manager that's on the crest of a winning wave as well, but they do need a fair few tweaks.
Ragnick was a complete headscratcher, he's not helped the team, his tactics are weird at best, honestly yesterday i watched what is meant to be a top team play with about 5 wingers up in a line, all wanting to be wide and nobody really wanting to be a striker and do those runs, he seems to think that putting a 90 million quid player into a position he wants, rather than what gets the best out of them is a good idea!
Bizarrely, you'd have objectively thought Ronaldo would have improved any team he was put into, but I had a feeling at the time that his arrival would be horribly unsettling for United at a time when the team was just starting to click. I was certainly relieved that the interest from City was only brief.
You should have been building a team around Sancho and Rashford, instead you bunged in some aging pedigree pony to sell some shirts. Admittedly you'd only just tried to build a team around Pogba, then found out he wasn't interested in putting the effort in.
The difference between Liverpool/City and Utd is that they have a system, and they add players with that system in mind. United have some unbelievable players to call on, but no system and no direction.
A pretty accurate assessment, that.
The trouble is that it’s been going on in such a rudderless, straw-clutching fashion for so long that it’s difficult to see it changing. Nobody seems that bothered about doing anything. There’s as little leadership off the pitch as there is on it
Anyway… back to today and what a free kick that was by Cresswell!
There’s some serious quality in this West Ham side. They’re fantastic to watch. I can see Everton getting a proper battering here
I thought the same with Ronaldo, but the reality is that a lot of blame is aimed at him, when the reality is that i think what we're seeing is the real united, with or without Ronaldo the team are just not clicking, his ability has saved them in many ways, but ManU finished second because they went on a great run, with confidence brought in by Fernandes being like a talisman, and having the other teams around them struggling helped a lot.
I think the real questions are being asked now though, especially what are the best positions for players, we've seen Rashford, Sancho, Fernandes, etc playing world class stuff at times, but they need to be doing it more, they need a leader in that team, someone who can support those players and sweep up after them, Rice is a good shout i think, but is he up to it, another big gamble this summer i think.
Rice is top class - he’d be daft to go to United. He’s already stated he wants to play Champions League football.
Rice is a good shout i think, but is he up to it, another big gamble this summer i think.
United need to stop thinking they can turn it all around by simply buying another top quality midfield/attacking player. Although they are misfiring constantly in midfield and attack, they are effectively back at square one all the way through the squad. The only player who is currently in the right position and on top form is De Gea. Fix your back line, the best midfield in the world is going to struggle in front of that shambles.
I dunno, any defence would struggle with McFred as the centre midfield duo. I think the only dud defender is Wan-Bissaka. Maguire has been decent at international level, yes having a poor season. Shaw - great last year. Varane - allegedly a Rolls Royce of a defender.
Watching Inter v Juve, in between the playacting there's a game trying to break out.
Spurs we’re remarkably un-spursy before.
Looks like we’ll be finishing 7th then
To be fair, we haven't reached the clutch moment, where Spursy becomes their thing, that'll come in the final week where they bottle it in spectacular fashion.
Have to be honest though, Spurs are a team i just don't like, probably more to do with my dislike of Kane, great player, but always whinging to the ref, trying to get players in trouble or pressure refs.
Every season i start with a faint hope of relegation for Man Yoo, Spurs & Everton
This could be a good year
You might well get one of your wishes with how truly awful they look at the moment.
Watching them today, especially for the first goal, the chant that the Liverpool fans sung to Jordan Pickford at the last Derby sprang to mind. I love footy chants…
He can’t reach up to the crossbar
He can’t reach up to the crossbar
He can’t reach up to the crossbaaaaaar
He’s only got little arms!
😂
😆😆😆
Everton have a horrible run in - ManU, Palace, Leicester x2, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.
Burnley's last few games look much easier on paper -the highest placed teams they have to play are Spurs and West Ham. Wednesday's game against Everton at Turf Moor could have a big impact on who goes down.
What do we think about United's latest signing? 'Eufa Coefficient' seems like a curious name, but if he can secure CL qualification, he'll be well worth a run-out.
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticUK/status/1508730934543241219
That could be an over-elaborate April Fools