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An interesting change to the formats this year..
1st place puts you into last 16 of Europa.
2nd place, puts you in to a last 16 EL playoff with CL 3rd place. (an extra round before last 16)
3rd place, put you into a last 16 conference playoff with 2nd place conference. (an extra round before last 16)
Worth winning yer Europa or conference league group if possible.
For those doing the fantasy league, I've started listening to this podcast while doing my late night nappy changes and feeding. It's with Jon Richardson and Matt Forde.
Champions League
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Europa League
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Stupidly named League
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Lack of interest in Europe from our Englandshireists always bemuses me.
Set up is class this year. Just need a bit more wealth redistribution from the CL into the EL.
New 3rd trophy is interesting.
I want us to win it one year, would be class.
Bruno’s not going to like this! 20 less penalties for him to take this season.
Is the huge ‘welcome back to Manchester’ billboard up on the side of Victoria Mill yet? 😂
I suspect the City thing may well have been a wind-up
Binnerette number one is very very excited about his return
Wow. Good to see him back. If only the other guy had gone to Citeh...
Suspect the City story was a ploy by him and his agent to engineer the move to Utd.
Thats what I suspected as well.
Not sure he is going to have much of an impact on the pitch as a player this time around, but wouldn't be surprised if he took over from Ole as manager in 12 months time.
I don't know if it will be a positive, he's going to expect game time but his style of play isn't something I think Man U are working towards. He's not going to be aroundes long term so will it help or hinder the development of the promising youngsters like Greenwood?
He’s an out and out centre forward now - he’ll play in the middle. Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho will rotate, two out of three, as wider forwards. Nice to have Cavani on the bench to chuck on! Martial too, if they’re really desperate.
Pressures really on Ole now. They couldn’t not sign him I guess.
He’ll not be playing against Norwich on a Monday night, but he’ll start champions league games.
so will it help or hinder the development of the promising youngsters like Greenwood?
I don’t know about stifling players like Greenwood, I think the opposite. If you watch the Ronnie documentary he’s the absolute consomethinge professional. That’s why he’s still going at 36. I reckon the young players will benefit enormously from having him and Cavani around. That’s a masterclass right there
I don’t suppose we need to ask who gets to wear that number shirt…
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Kevin Keegan?
Ronnie could always get a big curly perm?
Agree Binners - great signing for the young lads, Greenwood especially who there’s been a few murmurs about re dedication and discipline. As a bit of an aside is it true Phil Jones refused to give up the number four shirt for Varane?!
Who?
Always seemed a weird fit for Pep/City
I don’t know if it will be a positive, he’s going to expect game time but his style of play isn’t something I think Man U are working towards.
Put good players on the pitch and hope they come up with something is very much Ole's style so it's a.good fit imo.
Who gets sacked ??? Pep Tuchel Ole … 100 mill 98 mill 148 mill (ish) ……. 3 teams …. all spent huge to win the Premier or The Champions League …. the respective owners might even expect both for that outlay !! 3 teams 2 competitions…doesn’t go!!!
Not strictly true.
One clubs owner will sack a manager even if they win the champions league, but not in the right style.
Another clubs owners want to be up there competing at the very top level, but are realists and are just happy for people to be talking about the lack of a recognised centre forward and not human rights abuses.
The other clubs owners couldn’t give a flying **** whether the team wins owt or not as long as shirt sales are strong in Malaysia and they’ve just signed a deal with a new donut partner in Wisconsin
So obviously it’s Tuchel who’s getting sacked first. That’s just inevitable. Actual results from all 3 teams will have little bearing on that. It’ll just be down to how soon Roman gets bored
Oh dear Arsenal, not a good start.
Not sure I quite agree but an interesting take:
Three years ago, Juventus paid £100m for a 33-year-old and gave him a basic salary of £26.6m a year, a deal that must now rank as one of the worst in history. Ronaldo was signed to take Juventus, who had lost in two Champions League finals in the previous four seasons, to European glory. Instead they lost in the quarter-final to Ajax, then in the last 16 to Lyon, then in the last 16 to Porto. Juve had won seven scudetti in a row before Ronaldo arrived. They won it again in their first two seasons with him, but finished fourth last year. He may have scored 81 league goals in three seasons, but Ronaldo made Juventus a worse football team.
Definitely not hearing 'Glazers out' very often these days anyway 🙂
Arsenal really don’t like coming up to Manchester on the 28th of August, do they? Ten years to the day since this….
I wonder if City will let them off with 8? They certainly won’t be getting 2 back.
I bet on 5-0 at 26/1. When do I cash out? 2 minutes into the second half when Citeh get their fourth?
Hmmm. Maybe Arsenal will be better without Xhaka. So just the 6.
I think the feel good factor with Ronaldo around certainly won't hurt, no Man U fan will be mad with him returning. I'm intrigued to see how he gets on, I'm not sure either way tbh. I kind of agree with the article (having only read the title of course), Juve didn't need help in the league, Ronaldo was signed for the CL and he didn't help at all. Perhaps none of this was directly his fault but the money should have gone elsewhere to strengthen the squad
I think Arsenal might be threatening Sheffield United’s record from last season.
I bet on 5-0 at 26/1
Don't let off the gas City!
Excellent, £26 for Binners.
I cashed out for 18 quid when the 5th went in as I didn’t think Citeh were done.
I have a running thing with my Citeh mate that I put a quid bet on them winning 5-0 every game. It’s been a good bet so far this season. I had it last weekend at 15-1 too
Arsenal are a total shambles of a club. They’re bottom and thoroughly deserve to be so. The only challenge anyone made on a City player for the whole 90 minutes resulted in a straight red card. Absolutely pitiful!
At least it gets easier for Arsenal now, but it'll be a long old season again with them sitting around mid-table most of it!
Easier? I’m not so sure about that. Surely everyone’s going to be fancying their chances of putting a few past that shambolic defence?
It’s not just the top teams. Brentford managed it easily enough.
Arsenal are a total shambles of a club. They’re bottom and thoroughly deserve to be so. The only challenge anyone made on a City player for the whole 90 minutes resulted in a straight red card. Absolutely pitiful!
Have you got some quids on Arteta not making it past game six?
I don’t think you’d get very good odds on him being the first manager for the sack.
Edit: just had a look and the bookies have got him at 4/9 to be the first to go, so they clearly think it’s a nailed on certainty
The nearest other contender is Ralph Hassenhuttl at 14/1
He’s waiting for the call…
Fair play to the Arsenal fans though
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Chelsea have completely lost their shit here. Not sure what they think they will achieve by carrying on whining at the ref.
They were probably just pointing out how funny Jordon Henderson’s ‘Hard Man’ routine was 😂
Was a weird VAR one, referee walked over, looked at a still frame of the ball on hand and then walked away and gave the penalty and red card, if he'd watched the knee to ball i'd say he might have given a penalty and yellow, as it wasn't a clear goalscoring chance once it came off the knee.
LiVARpool, innit?
I won't claim to know the rules but I read that handball on the line is a red regardless of how it happens
It did seem very quick after going to the monitor - I didn't see that the ref had only looked at a still frame.
It looked to me (and the commentators) like the issue was the way James appears to try and scoop the ball out with his arm after it came off his knee.
it's a bit catch 22. The laws say that if he prevents a goal or DOGSO by handball then it's automatically a red card.
They also say that balls kicked or deflected onto the hand, where hand is in a natural position are not handball.
The question is whether his hand was in a natural position? Was it really a deliberate handball? If not then it's not even handball and therefore no penalty. But that wouldn't be 'fair' either, he stopped the ball going in with his arm.
So you declare it handball and then it becomes an automatic red card. There is no yellow card or no card option, it's all or nothing.
Blatant playacting from Azpilacueta there, scummy. If someone goes down clutching their face with literally no contact, why isn't VAR going back and punishing it?
Given that Fabinho somehow went the whole match without a card I don’t think you’ve much call to be complaining about the refereeing. Not that that’ll stop Klippity, I’m sure. Wasn’t he whining only last week about cards not being given for repeated OTT challenges?
A ten man Chelsea were the polar opposite of a ten man Arsenal today. They dealt with you comfortably. They played you. Hate to say it, but they look scarily good.
Predictable whataboutery.
They dealt with you comfortably.
A well-organised team parking the bus and timewasting successfully isn't really particularly impressive. Liverpool could have broken them down better perhaps.
They were down to ten men, away at Anfield, yet limited you to pot shots from distance and still created chances themselves
You may not think that’s particularly impressive. I did. Especially after watching a team down to ten men absolutely go to pieces earlier. That Chelsea display was textbook in how you play with a man down. Credit where it’s due. Azpilicueta Was superb
It was a great match though. Entertaining stuff! Better if it’d been 11 v 11.
A draw is the best result for us 😃
It was a good game. I thought Chelsea did defend well, and Liverpool were a bit toothless but I look forward to when Burnley next successfully park the bus and everyone talks them up as title contenders as a result!
I feel like Mane isn't looking anywhere near as deadly as previous seasons, he used to look unplayable at times.