Forum menu
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's not hard, but you need to make an effort rather than just stop eating the meat, eggs and dairy. I'm certainly not anti veganism, except on grounds of taste (to my shame)
You get used to the blandness 😉
You just get used to eating different stuff I guess
Possibly more variety of ingredients than a meat eater??? but the last meat eater I shared with was student days so probably not reflective of what you eat molly.
I eat lots of soups, rice dishes including paella and rissotto, lots of stir fry, curries, soup , stews loads of fruit including juices but i like those so choice. I also make cakes and drop scones [ thick pancakes] including chocolate chip ones twice a week ish so not a uber health freak but I do eat well
I own a chip pan as well though as I am proper northern so chips to often as well as other fried stuff like my bhajis and pakoras and poppadoms ...less healthy but yummy.
10 farking pages. Ten. I've been following this, on and off, for most of today. I have a vested interest. My parents were both omnivores (normals) until my dad went super-vegan at the ripe old age of 42.
We went to his mate's 40th birthday party, in the middle of the East Lothian woods. As a nine year old unicycling outcast, amongst perhaps 200 vegan weirdos, all skinny-dipping, I held my own. For the first day.
Woke up ravenously hungry, got introduced to the vegan breakfast table, changed my mind. Lunchtime was no better - by teatime, I was ready to kill a baby robin and BBQ its little body. Then: joy of joys - a huge chocolate cake was placed in the middle of the table. After a polite wait for the plankton and seaweed to be cleared, I went in.
It was ****ing carob icing on gluten-free sponge. Tasted like dead dust. Imagine lifting the sofa, sweeping your arm round and swallowing the catch. Tasted just like that. Looked like naked vegan-flesh.
My wife's a veggie, my wee boy has meat for his well-being.
Carob, been there, done that. Imagine being a 6 year old kid experiencing your first Easters with kids getting snickers, mars bar, milky way or malteser Easter eggs and you getting, carob.
I'd imagine 99% of people here haven't had carob. Try it.
I undoubtedly come across abrupt in this matter, but, I've lived it.
How many of you, forcing your children to follow your current beliefs, were forced through that in your childhood?.
You may think you know better, but you don't.
Also, how many of you vegan etc. folk, follow the new age medicine route?. I suffered severe migraines as a child and instead of seeing a doctor, I traveled 25 miles each way to a new age healer. He would 'massage my head' and then send us home with 'treatment pills' (sugar pills).
The pain I went through from that, now knowing it could have been severely reduced, is just another reason I hate religious/fanatical beliefs.
I'm amazed all you veggies have the strength to be able to argue for this long
😉
You know when your Mum said 'eat all your veg'. She didn't mean push the roast beef aside and just eat the boring stuff.
I imagine its like a Jehovahs Witnesses house in a Vegan household but without the 'fun'.
It'd probably drive the child of Vegan parents to going wild/escapism. Which would be worrying.
All tongue in cheek 🙂 If I'm found dead in a alleyway with nutroast stuffed into my mouth..
If I'm found dead in a alleyway with nutroast stuffed into my mouth..
I hate to inform you, but it won't be stuffed in your mouth.
Vegans don't **** about.
[img] 
[/img]
Carob? How old are you guys, I haven't had carob since about 1992. Absolutely no reason for a vegan to eat carob, we tend to eat chocolate and the proper stuff at that, not that cadbury crap that you all eat. Seriously, no excuse to eat a bland diet as a vegan in 2014...
Pook, nice try. Look up Scott Jurek or Brendan Brazier and then talk about endurance 😉
What gets me is the Puritanism of many vegetarians - I'm mostly vegetarian, but do eat fish, and people say things like "well, you're not a real vegetarian" as if it's a competition or something.
well, you're not a real vegetarian
You're not, tho 😉
10 pages and counting!
You're not, tho
Nope, and don't particularly want to be 😉
Pescatarian
[s]Carob? Are you a mormon?[/s] Oops Im thinking of coffee substitute.
Pescatarian
Gesundheit.
Barleycup,hora? I remember that from the 90s too.. another thing which is somehow inextricably linked with veganism!
I'm mostly vegetarian, but do eat fish, and people say things like "well, you're not a real vegetarian" as if it's a competition or something.
Well, you aren't, and if you go round calling yourself vegetarian then it confuses the issue and leads to people putting "tuna pasta bake" as the vegetarian 'option' on restaurant menus because they don't know any better.
Vegetarians don't eat fish, the word you're looking for there is pescatarian as Molgrips says. It's not an exercise in pedantry or a competition to be more vegetarian than yow, it's an effort to be accurate in order to avoid the sort of situation above. You might as well claim "well, I'm mostly a non-smoker, apart from cigarettes."
The only time I say I'm vegetarian is when a meal choice comes up - no-one knows what a pescatarian is and I can't be bothered explaining, so it's the simplest option.
But what sometimes happens is that I get a game of 20 questions - "do you eat eggs? What about cheese? Do you eat fish?" And as soon as I say yes they say "aha, you're not a real vegetarian!"
10 pages because Binners gave a kid a cheeseburger! 😯
This may become the thread of the year... This is Mumsnet right?
What about wafer thin ham?
You're suffering from other peoples ignorance Ben, wouldn't it be better if pescatarians made more of a stand and actually called themselves such instead of perpetuating the fish eating vegetarian confusion? which presumably can't be good for either veggies or peskies.
pescatarian sounds almost religious
no-one knows what a pescatarian is and I can't be bothered explaining, so it's the simplest option.
Stand up for yourself, Ben. For too long you pescatarians have been made to sit at the back of the bus. Shunned by the veggies, laughed at by the carnivores, it's time you made your voices heard!
What's a pescatarian?
Has anyone actually asked binners if the child's parents had given him any instructions on what the child could have to eat?
We're all making a massive assumption that the girl wasn't allowed to have a burger because they were vegans and therefore she was too.
What's a pescatarian?
pescatarian |?p?sk??t??r??n| (also pescetarian)
noun
a person who does not eat meat but does eat fish. no red meat, my family are pescatarians. [ as modifier ] : he adheres to a mostly pescatarian diet.
ORIGIN 1990s: from Italian pesce ‘fish’, on the pattern of vegetarian.
...also, what's a google?
my wee boy has meat for his well-being.
It is not it is you making a choice for him just like the vegans.
he will be fine without meat as mine would be fine eating it.
How many of you, forcing your children to follow your current beliefs, were forced through that in your childhood?.
I was forced to eat meat by my bastard parents - its like parents decide and some match the childs eventual choice and some do not - are they all monsters or just the non meat eating ones?
Carob - I am not even sure you can get that - why bother when proper dark chocolate is vegan and all chocolate veggie - FWIW most of europe considers our chocolate to be terrible anyway.
how many of you vegan etc. folk, follow the new age medicine route?.
I dont eat things from an animal i did not give up my capacity to reason nor understand science when I made this choice. If i had it is unlikely that eating meat would get it back. I am not sure if there is a link or not tbh not seen any research
I imagine its like a Jehovahs Witnesses house in a Vegan household but without the 'fun'.
The big loss for us is we are so dull you do not call and we dont get to listen to your hilarious and riotously funny original stand up routines . Your lazy stereotypical jokes are especially BRILLIANT
"well, you're not a real vegetarian"
Its true you eat an animal and there is another word to describe it.
Its like claiming you are a non smoker because you smoke fags but dont ever smoke a pipe or cigars.
FWIW i once met someone who did not eat red meat and that was enough for them to claim being a vegetarian.
Like goggles, but in monocle form
The only time I say I'm vegetarian is when a meal choice comes up - no-one knows what a pescatarian is and I can't be bothered explaining, so it's the simplest option.
But what sometimes happens is that I get a game of 20 questions - "do you eat eggs? What about cheese? Do you eat fish?" And as soon as I say yes they say "aha, you're not a real vegetarian!"
If you keep telling people you are a vegetarian when you aren't, then people are going to keep pointing out that you aren't a vegetarian.
That seems pretty obvious to me.
If someone told you they were vegan, but then told you that they do actually eat cheese and drink milk, would you point out to them that they actually weren't a vegan ??
The big loss for us is we are so dull you do not call and we dont get to listen to your hilarious and riotously funny original stand up routines . Your lazy stereotypical jokes are especially BRILLIANT
Those spouting on about how cruel it is forcing kids to be veggie, you having a laugh?
Eating meat is becoming fairly indefensible for moral, environmental and biological/health reasons. The only pro argument is that seared animal flesh tastes so damn good. If I'd been brought up veggie/vegan my diet would probably still be either fully or mostly veg based. We've all been indoctrinated into what our parents ate whatever diet they had we have mostly picked up. Some will be vegetarian some vegan some balanced diet of everything and a lot seemingly are bad, given the current obesity problem.
Sure kids can be little sods about minor differences but with the massive spectrum of height, weight, skin/hair colour, facial features and other things for them to utilise for ripping the piss out of each other that having an alternative diet hardly matters in the grand scheme. Sure social gatherings will be tricky but whoever is putting on the party should be catering for their guests shirley
We're all making a massive assumption that the girl wasn't allowed to have a burger because they were vegans
Except for that bit where Binners said the child said please can we go we will not tell them and we can say we had something else.
But you still don't know if the parents would actually be as concerned as you seem to be 😉
If you keep telling people you are a vegetarian when you aren't, then people are going to keep pointing out that you aren't a vegetarian.
Aye, that's true. I dunno, it's like some people are hanging on every spoken and written word for the opportunity to point out that the speaker or writer is WRONG. 🙂
DONK kids seem more sensitive than we were and my kids dont really get any grief at school.
One lad has waived meat over the youngest butties and dropped some non vegan crisps in his bowl one day. Then again that kid is the worst behaved kid in the school and he hardly singles out my child for his poor behaviour.
Eldest has had nothing beyond the usual what do you eat, why , can you eat this, is that boring etc type questions.
IME kids are way more tolerant and understanding than the adults on STW.
Some appear to be brighter as well 😉
But you still don't know if the parents would actually be as concerned as you seem to be
What's the forum now? The Old Bailey or something? D'ya reckon it's a fair assumption to make that crazy vegans might not fancy their child eating in McDonald's? Or is it fairer, in the determined state not to be outraged, to assume that they wouldn't give a shite? Or must we not give our opinions until full disclosure has been made to the prosecution and defence.
In the meantime, we can wait for another of binners' retrospective information drops.
No it isn't, and certainly no more than the production of a vast range of other foodstuffsEating meat is becoming fairly indefensible for moral, environmental and biological/health reasons
[i] opinions [/i]
If only.
If only.
Or, hang on, I know...just interject every now and then with a dismissive post. 🙂
I just can't form one on this matter 🙁
my kids would starve if they didn't eat meat lol
vegi and vegan diets for kids are really a bad idea IMO. Other than the health implications you shouldn't force your numpty ideas onto kids. I want my kids to grow up fit and healthy, once they are adults they are free to choose their diet, religion and sexuality 😉
Mmmm, this one's waining again. How to liven it up?
I know.
Junkyard, if a religious kid was coming roung to your house for tea and the parents so wished it, would you say grace?
i can't be arsed to read all of this.
hora just messaged me to tell me. not sure why he thinks i'd care.
funny thing is, i genuinely don't give a toss what bin-bins does with his or anyone's kids. not got any of my own, nor will i ever have any, so the whole moral issue here means nothing to me.
i will, however, force vegan cakes upon binners next time we go out riding, but won't tell his kids about it. that's appropriate revenge i'd say...
hmmm dubious man is dubious but I'll leave that for more knowledgeable people to tackle, my google-fu is weak today.No it isn't, and certainly no more than the production of a vast range of other foodstuffs
(I've no doubt some exotic fruit/veg is highly intensive to produce but I'd imagine staple stuff is a lot more efficient than meat.)
I noticed you didn't comment on the moral/health bits 🙂
Poah, why is it ok for you to force your numpty ideas on your kids but it's not OK for me to force my numpty ideas on mine?
We've already done the health implications thing. You haven't a leg to stand on.