[Closed] Oooo am I going to get a visit from the police?

Other than the three I've already made up?

TBH I have nothing further to add
we should do it as you say whilst we dont you are queue jumping
the compromise would be as aracer or wrecker say and sray still in the same lane and form the queue behind you to zip from you once you reach the front/pinch point. Everyone else in the "queue lane /the longer lane" is there before you and their turn is before you but you can circumvent this if you wish.

The ones I really enjoy are the people who insist on queuing in a single lane while the inactive, well signed, part time bus lane next to them is empty.

Hmmm..... except for the 'minor disagreement' I had with the dick who pulled over half into the bus lane preventing me from turning left while he queued to go straight on. When his complaint was a/ that the hours indicated (0730-0930 and 1630-1830) were the times that it didn't apply and b/ even if I was in the wrong (which I wasn't) what purpose does it serve for him to block me and the other users when it doesnt even affect him.

The trouble with arguing with idiots is that they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Every time people mention the idea of drivers 'zipping' seamlessly together I find myself smirking. Have you ever actually driven on British roads? Any sort of fluid merging would end, 100%, in a pile-up. The future is driverless cars. 😉

Holy shit! Seriously?

Apart from the fact you're all being (rather well executed mind you) trolled, just take a step back! Please!

It's all reading a bit erectiledysfunctiontrackworld. 😀

we should do it as you say whilst we dont you are queue jumping

Not quite. It's closer to:

we should do it as you say whilst we dont [s]you are[/s] we are going to accuse you of queue jumping, inaccurately.

Ie, it appears to you to be queue jumping because you're doing it wrong. That doesn't make it queue jumping, your perception is off.

I go up the empty lane, but I do so nonchalantly with a newspaper open on the steering wheel, and make a great show of being engrossed in it and not looking at the road ahead. This way all the queueophiles think that I just haven't noticed, rather than think that I'm an arse.

Broadsheet I hope.

Obviously.

[quote=FeeFoo ]I hate the fact that people assume I'm some selfish prick, but I hate the idea of needlessly sitting in a long queue even more.

Assume correctly by the sound of that 😉

So now we've figured out that wrightyson was not driving in accordance with The Highway Code*, I'll have a crack at his question.

Oooo am I going to get a visit from the police?

Am I going to prison

I advised her in a very calm manner that there are people who don't take kindly being threatened

Threatening behaviour: triable only summarily Maximum: Level 5 fine and/or 6 months

*The Highway Code is a set of guidelines detailing the requirements and standards for road users.

Broadsheet I hope.

Apropos of nothing,

In the car the other day I could see in my mirror that the driver behind was reading a book! She wasn't even looking at the road. I sat there frothing quietly to myself for a good 30 seconds till I realised her passenger was sat there next to her with, erm, a steering wheel.

Could be worse Cougar. You could have pulled the car over and started to reprimand the foreign passenger who had got out of the right hand side for something the foreign driver sitting on the left hand side of the foreign car had done 🙂

5 pages in but I'll have a go as it annoys the crap out of me.

OP's neat maneuver and general enthusiasm to form a single queue has probably caused the queue to back onto the previous roundabout which has jammed and in turn caused numerous other queues in the locality including traffic coming the other way which then causes a queue on the roundabout that the 2 into 1 feeds into making the queue bigger, or at least that's what happens where you get dual carriageway book-ended by roundabouts like in Ashton-U-Lyne and many other places.

Merge in Turn you muppets! It's the ultimate display of politeness and deference unlike the selfishness of the one lane queue gits.

You can use the same situation at some roundabouts here. Queuing traffic half a mile long in the left hand lane waiting to go straight on. Very little in the right hand lane waiting to go right. So drive straight up the empty right hand lane past all the queuing traffic, do a full lap of the roundabout and 'hey presto' 5 mins saved from the journey 🙂

we should do it as you say whilst we dont you are queue jumping

Noice 🙂

Knew this was up Alfreton hill as soon as i read it!

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To be fair everyone queues up in the ns lane.

Something kinda related that really bugs me, road near us goes from 2 to one lane, wide road plenty of room but all the sheeple drive (or as is much more likely queue ) 1" from the kerb which encourages arseholes to tear up the middle of the road (straddling the centre line) passed them. The sheeple inconvenience any earnest cyclists trying to get home and the arseholes endanger, well everyone, crossing pedestrians, oncoming drivers, drivers pulling out of side streets etc. last night I was heading the opposite direction and waiting to turn right (on my bike) near enough on the centre line, one arseholes comes flying up the middle of the road flashing his lights at me, then as he slowed to pass - as he had to merge - he had a go at me for not jumping out of his way. His crap behaviour enabled by the unthinking sheeple.

we should do it as you say [s]whilst we dont you are queue jumping[/s]

So start doing it properly then 😯

You know how to do it properly, so why the wilfull bad driving ?

It's almost like you [b]want[/b] to be shit drivers

sheeple

I bloody hate it when people use the term "sheeple" to make a point I actually agree with. 🙂

aracer - Member
FeeFoo » I hate the fact that people assume I'm some selfish prick, but I hate the idea of needlessly sitting in a long queue even more.
Assume correctly by the sound of that

*looks forward to seeing aracer in my rear view mirror, frothing at the mouth in impotent rage as I sail up the right hand lane, laughing maniacally to myself whilst Wagner blasts out of the stereo* 😉

Don't worry, you won't - you'll get stuck behind me going slowly in the right hand lane - haven't you read any of my posts? 😛

I did read that. What happens if the queued lane is stationary though?
Do you stop and merge early? Surely not.

Skimmed a bit of this thread, but those banging on about merging in turn seem to have missed the point that everybody in front of them has already merged in turn, just earlier than you. And then you come along up the outside thinking your turn was before all those who were in front of you. Merging in turn late on decreases the entry speed into the constriction as people apply the brakes when they should be rolling along smoothly, matching the single lane speed. Two lane queuing works best when traffic speeds can increase after the pinch point e.g. two lanes into one after traffic lights. Finding a queue on the left hand side when you're flying down the right means you haven't read the road properly, either that or you're trying to gain an advantage out of other's politeness. Don't mind this so much as the blind hiding behind the highway code.

So the people doing it right are "hiding behind the Highway Code"

I've heard it all now.

People driving wrong using the Highway Code as if it's the handbook for bad drivers.

Brilliant logic.

Finding a queue on the left hand side when you're flying down the right means you haven't read the road properly

Total crap.

And both schools of advanced driving (AIM and ROSPA) disagree with you.

Gave me a little chuckle though.

Keep doing it wrong though, it gives those of us doing it correctly a time advantage that we enjoy.

either that or you're trying to gain an advantage out of other's politeness

Currently staying in Germany, this nearly made me miss the UK. And then I remembered you weren't obeying the rules and must be punished.

Yeah they may have thought it out incorrectly and it wouldn't work any better if people merged at the correct point, but their road planners probably know more about this shizzle than us.

I'm sure they do, after all they are the ones who put in all the lovely cycling 'facilities'. I admire your optimism.

The same people who designed [url= https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @52.025735,1.207377,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s61kc4P7UM0Sj3bNV8E4qhw!2e0?hl=en]this junction[/url] which is an absolute mess at rush hour as the impatient go down the RH lane and turn left onto the section of lane put in to ease the traffic flow for those coming from the opposite side and turning right. On a 'good' night the halfwits can block both carriageways of the A14 which is a triumph of un-civil engineering.

Merge in turn would be ok but for it relying on someone else for personal safety, which is why the queueing happens.

That's not "two lanes merging" though is it, that's people being in the wrong lane?

More an example of not relying on highways planners to know their sizzle as the quote says.

Or is it a junction that doesn't work very well if people use it wrong.

The same sort of incorrect behaviour as everyone being in one lane when there are two available.

I bloody hate it when

I'm sure they do, after all they are the ones who put in all the lovely cycling 'facilities'. I admire your optimism.

Isn't modern stuff designed to be more idiot/dickhead proof? less open to wilful misuse

<but yeah I guess I could be being woefully optimistic>

Finding a queue on the left hand side when you're flying down the right means you haven't read the road properly

Say for the sake of argument that's the case. What are you supposed to do about it? What's the safest, most sensible course of action?

Stick your indicator on, wait till you reach a gap the size of a razor blade and carve in?

Match speed with the slowly moving / static line of cars, blocking off an entire carriageway for a mile?

Proceeding to the merge point like THC tells you to do?

You can use the same situation at some roundabouts here. Queuing traffic half a mile long in the left hand lane waiting to go straight on. Very little in the right hand lane waiting to go right. So drive straight up the empty right hand lane past all the queuing traffic, do a full lap of the roundabout and 'hey presto' 5 mins saved from the journey

Damn, thought it was just me who did this. Best place to do it is the A14 approaching the M6/ M1 junction. Saves more than 5 mins.

I'm kinda torn on that, it's a bit of a git's trick. I used to do it regularly in my student days trying to get out of Preston, when Blackpool Road was standing traffic for miles. Whether I'd do it now or not I don't know, probably not. In exceptional circumstances perhaps.

I'm kinda torn on that, it's a bit of a git's trick. I used to do it regularly in my student days trying to get out of Preston, when Blackpool Road was standing traffic for miles. Whether I'd do it now or not I don't know, probably not. In exceptional circumstances perhaps.

It can't possibly be a git's trick as it's perfectly compatible with the highway code! 💡

It's not [i]incompatible [/i]with THC, but I'm pretty sure it's not advised anywhere..!

Hehehe, this thread is great. Merge in turn means just that, you merge in turn at the point of constriction. They do it on the continent with great etiquette, everyone leaves a gap for the car to merge in to and the traffic merges beautifully and the road flows. Just hapless driving standards in the UK.

Keep doing it wrong though, it gives those of us doing it correctly a time advantage that we enjoy.

This was the q for woman in her late 50's to park up still 30 odd metres back and run up the road to abuse me. She has camera in car and is reporting me to the law apparently. Hey ho I say and we all continue to sit in traffic, 5 mins later I've pulled in somewhere and she has come looking for me. Not finished she screams out of the window further threats of police and illegalitys.

This is the important bit from the OP, not a minor transgression of queue etiquette. The woman was quite clearly causing a public order offence, and anyone that angry shouldn't be driving.

Actually more to the point, she lost all that time she saved by [s]charging up the outside then barging into the queue[/s] driving in accordance with the highway code.

This country and its obsession with queuing!! 😀

If everyone queued behind each other as in the OP it causes absolute chaos further down the road blocking junctions etc. It the merge in turn at the point of constriction is for this very reason. Otherwise you are taking up double the amount of road length.

The main problem is how terrible us brits are at driving in general, I learnt abroad and was shocked when I started driving over here. 90% of the time on roundabouts I end up going first as the person with right of way has to figure out a) whether they have right of way, not difficult but can take up to a minute and b) if it is polite to go yet, another 30 seconds or so. By which time I'm already at destination and have boiled the kettle.

And as for merging if you must queue unnecessarily and don't want people doing it properly to get in front of you then don't leave such a big gap in front of you!

^^^^ this, driving standards in the uk on a whole are terrible.

Lane hogging, inappropriate speed, merge in turn, antisocial driving, tailgating.

Hang on LHS - 4 out of 5 of those are bad things. If you're being consistent it should be :

Lane hogging, inappropriate speed, [s]merge in turn[/s]pointless queuing due to an inability to think more than 10 feet ahead of your front wheels , antisocial driving, tailgating.

Compared to what countries are our driving standards awful? IIRC we have some of the safest roads in the world.

This whole sitting in an unnecessarily large queue fuming at people driving how they are supposed to is spectacularly and pathetically British though. 😆

Lane hogging, inappropriate speed, merge in turn, antisocial driving, tailgating.

Lane hogging and tailgating would be less of a problem if people obeyed the speed limits.