[Closed] Obviously no proper crime around then?

It involves some fairly serious corruption allegations.

Are you saying that a journo thinks the investigation should be cut back or stopped? And you believed them?

Also, as well as the political classes, it's ordinary people who happened to find themselves in the news. Maybe when a relative was killed.

Yeah, let 'em off I say. Concentrate effort on finding out who the remaining opportunistic rioters where and make sure they're banged up instead!

[i]Yeah, let 'em off I say.[/i]

Didn't say that at all, just can't see why it needs the best part of 200 folk involved when you could just run a small team (for longer if need be) - its not like time will make any difference.

But like most things media-based, its been blown out of all proportion by the media (that is the non-Murdoch media).

Having a healthy media that has a proper mandate to investigate matters in the public interest is one of the bastions of a fully fledged democracy, Murdoch and his ilk have done their level best to destroy this, have helped to corrupt the police and the politicians, and greatly erode any sense of democracy in this country.

Industrial scale crimes need industrial scale investigations.

Somewhat ironic that the NoTW and NI have effectively taken ~200 police officers away from investigating and preventing 'regular' crimes.

you cannot blame the police for the number of officers needed to investigate certain crimes. Perhaps the press could just have done fewer/ no hackings and saved us the trouble
Are there other more serious crimes well yes and no.
It goes to the heart of democracy so it is important.
Sadly some coppers have been complicit in this as have politicians and the media so we have the issue of Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
who watches the watchmen?

just can't see why it needs the best part of 200 folk involved

Your ignorance of the procedures involved does not imply failure on their part.

Ie, I don't understand it either, doesn't mean it's wrong.

Hey Cougar, love the selection of a part of my sentence...

he has hardly misrepresented your view though has he. I suspect he would also say he does not know why they cant use less officers for longer but that also does not mean it is the wrong decision
Happy now?

b r - what do you suggest? What do you consider the resource requirements are to investigate this?

I, like Cougar, am ignorant as to what is involved so trust they're doing what they consider best from their expert position.

i havent really followed this but surely if your doing nothing wrong it shouldnt matter if your phone etc is hacked. ie. the same argument for cctv taking pics of everything you do. FREE PRESS or not, cos lets face it, the inquiry into a very expensive and ILLEGAL war in iraq didnt have this much power or resources

jonah tonto - Member

i havent really followed this but surely if your doing nothing wrong it shouldnt matter if your phone etc is hacked. ie. the same argument for cctv taking pics of everything you do

Rubbish

so you have no issue with people listening to your PRIVATE calls 😯
More worryingly you seem to have no problem with journalists deleting messages from a dead person phone meaning the family had false hope she was alive and had heard the messages.

playing devils advocate sure, but whats the difference ? google earth shows a view through my window ffs
-on a moral level one is as bad as another

like i said ive not followed the ins and out but yes i do have a problem with people listening to my calls, photographing me in the street, etc. but if the security companies employed by the government can do it then joe bloggs should be able to too. or better still private should really mean private.

jonah tonto - Member

i havent really followed this but surely if your doing nothing wrong it shouldnt matter if your phone etc is hacked

Ask Millie Dowler's parents. I mean no offence here but before you form an opinion, follow the story.

Hey Cougar, love the selection of a part of my sentence...

The thing is, right, if you press [Page Up] on your keyboard, you can read the full text in all its glory. I just C&P'ed sufficient to highlight what I was replying to, there's no need to re-read the same paragraph 37 times in a thread.

Anyway, am I actually cherry-picking here, does the rest of your sentence radically affect either your point or mine? Doesn't look like it.

Yes, this crime deserves as many investigators as it takes. The future freedom of our media, quality of our journalism and personal privacy are threatened by this issue.

Next.

The more different people who investigate it will increase the chances that just maybe, perhaps, one of them will say 'Right, I'm having these set of ****s locked up' and then actually doing something about it instead of a few slaps on the wrist and golden handshakes all round.

just can't see why it needs the best part of 200 folk involved when you could just run a small team (for longer if need be) - its not like time will make any difference.

Many thousands of cases have to be investigated. When this first started they estimated it would take 20 years to finish telling everyone who had been hacked.

I'd imagine at that rate a good proportion would have died of old age first.