festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don't have the money to pay for more.
bands with middle-aged fans have always been expensive, because your audiecne is rich(er) folk who want a nice sit down and a reminisce.
you could pay £300+ to watch a video of abba playing ffs
just go and watch Katy J Pearson tour her new album in Nov/Dec you fools
What was that stupid energy drink that was selling for an absolute fortune last year?
Prime - and it's less than a quid in most corner shops now.
Such a fuss... if you like Oasis live, Liam was pretty much delivering that all the time... if you wanted to see "what happens next" Noel's solo stuff moved on in interesting directions... a reunion gig doesn't offer that much. Is it all about sharing the fun and love in the crowds that it'll draw in?
gobuchulFree Member
Free Market Economics.Supply and Demand.
If people think it’s worth it, they will pay it.
Indeed, and everybody knew about that demand in advance of ticket sales. So why should someone with a slower internet connection (therefore ending up further back in the queue) end up paying significantly more than someone with a faster one? Because Oasis/Ticketmaster have acted like *****s.
festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don’t have the money to pay for more.
You've never been to Glastonbury have you?
Free Market Economics.
Supply and Demand.
How about as a percentage of your monthly pay, say 25% in this case?
Home taping is killing music.
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festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don’t have the money to pay for more.
Tell me you've not been to a festival, without telling me you've not been to a festival.
You’ve never been to Glastonbury have you?
Tell me you’ve not been to a festival, without telling me you’ve not been to a festival.
I went to reading 10 years on the trot, glasto twice, download 4 times, rock am ring 3 times and a few others. I haven't been to an old person festival, sure, but in my experience the majority of crowds at the UKs biggest festivals (which are also the cheap ones) is young. I haven't been to glastonbury in over a decade - maybe the crowd has aged?
edit: looks like the bands have, based on this article - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/24/cream-teas-rocknroll-older-revellers-glastonbury - perhaps its same for the crowd
but in my experience the majority of crowds at the UKs biggest festivals (which are also the cheap ones) is young.
In my experience this is not the case at all – at Glastonbury there is always a very wide range of age groups and diversity. This year we were camping next to a couple in their early 60s, I got chatting to a couple from Barnsley who were even older (I was disappointed they hadn't gone to see Barnsley's own 'Bar Steward Sons of Val Doonican'), I spent most of Friday afternoon at the front of the Pyramid stage chatting to a bloke of my age who was there with his wife. I am 57 and went with my 59 year old brother.
I know that Reading > Leeds can have a younger audience (because it has become a 'rite of passage' for kids completing their GCSEs) but I watched some on iPlayer and there was still a wide mix of ages of people.
And if you think 'skint under-25s' can afford a weekend festival ticket + travel, food and drink, then I think your idea of what a 'skint under-25' is, is way out of whack.
I don’t get it when people complain about holiday prices during the school holiday periods. Of course they will cost more.
This is also just as wrong - the fact it's cheaper for parents to pay the fines than the inflated costs proves it. The price should be the price. **** capitalism.
This is also just as wrong – the fact it’s cheaper for parents to pay the fines than the inflated costs proves it.
That tells me the fines aren't high enough.
Changed days. I saw the Stones at Glasgow Apollo in 1982. The gig wasn’t announced until the week before. I was in my flat a mile away from the box office when they announced it on Radio Clyde. By the time I walked up the queue vwas so long the stalls were sold out. I ended up front balcony.
Tickets were £6.50.
Do you remember how much you were earning per day? I started work as Xmas Saturday staff in 1984 and was earning under a tenner per day, iirc. If I’m right, your Stones ticket works out at about 6 hours work - NLW is now about £11 per hour, so roughly £60-70 by today’s standard. You won’t see the Stones these days for that price but you’ll see an awful lot of well known bands for much, much less. Gigs aren’t expensive these days, but some, like Oasis or Taylor Swift are.
Home taping etc.
Pipped - now I have to pay treble for being too late to the joke.
Serious question...what's Liam going to do, when Noel is singing and playing the good songs...?
Will he join in or just stand around awkwardly? Maybe he will do a Bez and get the maraccas and tamborines out?
Errrr - Liam sings pretty much every Oasis song. Isn’t it basically just Don’t Look Back in Anger and Lidl by Lidl that Noel sings (of the more well known stuff?
Liam sings pretty much every Oasis song
From memory, Whatever and Acquiesce are both Noel vocals, there are definitely others. Liam will do what he always did: swagger offstage and snort a few lines 🙂
Oh yeah - of course their most well known song - Wonderwall. God, who cares if they ever hear that again, really ?! lol!
Was originally going to apply for tickets but glad I didn't.
Now I've just got 5 nights of disruption and the lingering stench of lager piss in the streets to look forward to.
Whatever was sung by Liam originally but I put prefer when Noel sings it in A rather than G:
You decide, I've chosen performances that are both pretty good.
I have found a list...
NOEL/OASIS STUDIO TRACKS
The following sets contain those Oasis tracks which had Noel on lead vocals on their main studio versions:
ALBUM TRACKS
1. Don't Look Back In Anger
2. Magic Pie
3. Where Did It All Go Wrong?
4. Sunday Morning Call
5. Force of Nature
6. Little By Little
7. She Is Love
8. Mucky Fingers
9. The Importance of Being Idle
10. Part Of The Queue
11. Waiting For The Rapture
12. (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady
13. Falling Down
So only 'Don't Look Back in Anger' from that list that I would suspect will make it's way onto the set-list for the upcoming tour.
“Half the World Away” is also sung by Noel.
True, but it isn't an album track, just like Masterplan. My original response was in relation to the suggestion that Liam won't be doing much singing (just doing a Bez), but I was simply trying to point out that he is the primary vocalist. When I saw them, everyone pissed off to the bar when Noel started singing :O
It's a big Oasis tune though.
But I agree Liam is the lead singer. Noel is rolled out for the odd song in much the same way as Brian May and John Taylor where in Queen.
If Noel sings DLBIA will he do it in C like the original or B as he does with the high flying birds? Better in B IMO which means down tuning the guitar a step or capo 4 (IIRC) and changing the chords.
When Noel does Oasis songs with the High Flying Birds there's much more feel to the songs than when Liam sings them, you can tell Noel wrote them and sings from the heart. He'll sing soft and loud as appropriate and make sublte changes of voice to sound happy or sad or angry. He sometimes changes the key to suit his current voice such as DLBIA in B and Whatever in A. In fact having got used to the newer versions the originals sound flat and not just because they're down a step.
What will be the Encore do we think?
If Noel sings DLBIA will he do it in C like the original or B as he does with the high flying birds? Better in B IMO which means down tuning the guitar a step or capo 4 (IIRC) and changing the chords.
When Noel does Oasis songs with the High Flying Birds there’s much more feel to the songs than when Liam sings them, you can tell Noel wrote them and sings from the heart. He’ll sing soft and loud as appropriate and make sublte changes of voice to sound happy or sad or angry. He sometimes changes the key to suit his current voice such as DLBIA in B and Whatever in A. In fact having got used to the newer versions the originals sound flat and not just because they’re down a step.
For the rest of us... Edukator prefers Noel on vocals.
Yeah, this amused me. Noel wonders what's going on then takes over and gets into it:
More Oasis dates announced. Who would have thought it? There will be some unhappy people who paid £500 for standing tickets
Only 2 dates so far but.....
But.....not on general sale. Only those who were thrown out of the queue mistakenly or got the 504 error
I wonder what random prices these will sell for then.
The whole pricing strategy is a bloody joke.
I wish I could say more but I'll get into trouble.
Ticketmaster do as they're told and let's just say, "dynamic" is so very true. Lots of people behind the scenes during these sales, being told what to do, in the moment.
I'll bow out now or I could be unemployed and on a plane back to Blighty.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmw0l30vk0o
This is bloody shocking. Ticketmaster just has a monopoly on everything to do with live music. Oasis left the decision on ticket pricing to their promoters, but their promoters are "Ticketmaster".....
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Ticketmaster just has a monopoly on everything to do with live music.
Only if you want to see big acts. I've probably been to 60ish gigs this year and haven't had anything to do with Ticketmaster. They can still **** off though!
Damn right. Best to book direct if you can.
And we're away.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3l5j8r8lo
The UK competition regulator has launched an investigation into the sales of Oasis ticket sales, including how "dynamic pricing" was used.
The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) is investigating whether ticket selling platform Ticketmaster breached consumer protection law.
The pricing was decided by Band and there Management.
