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So I want to inspect the graphite core of an aging nuclear reactor with regard to extending it's lifespan given the current energy crunch. I've had a look online and proper PPE seems quite expensive. I was thinking of using bacofoil for underpants?
Can anyone advise if this will work?
Also gloves, are they really necessary - they'll be quite sweaty and I won't be able to write clearly on my clipboard etc...
Are you actually being serious? On the assumption that you are I’d expect hard hat, safety specs, coveralls, gloves and steel toe capped boots to be the minimum requirement just to allowed on site with anything extra as required by a risk assessment for that particular task.
The bacofoil pack is CE certified, surely that covers it?
Even by STW standards this is random.
Intrigued what prompted it, serious or not
High vis vest and you'll be fine. In fact any vest, it'll soon be high vis.
Dear Lord, please see the mast climbing rope safety thread and the deep sea inspection of oil rig legs thread.
Intrigued what prompted it, serious or not
See previous, climbers - fall arrest and Divers - Air supply threads.....
We seem to be getting ridiculous scenarios for difficult/dangerous jobs with questions, from what appears to be the village idiot, being asked on how to make these jobs easier/cheaper...
Suspect someone has posted up asking a genuine question about something but others have decided it was daft so now trying to make others up...
This is precisely what apprentices are for
No they are being serious, it's Truss's brave new world of workers taking risks after the bonfire of pesky regulations.
OP you'll be fine if you make sure you keep a pork pie in your pocket to absorb the bad stuff.
I was thinking of using bacofoil for underpants?
Bacofoil underpants are not necessary, however you may fancy to fashion the tinfoil into some type of rudimentary millinery. It stops sunburn so should stop any nasties from a mere power station; after all, the sun is bigger and would win in a fight. Gloves likewise.
Factor 50+ for the rest of you and you're good to go, etc
IANANS
You're obviously serious, so the technical answer is that tin foil will protect you from beta particles and bacon grease. Not so good against gamma particles, unless you buy the super strong stuff from Morrisons.
Op, I can't answer your questions directly but if the tin foil pants dont work I can hook you up with a good knob doctor.👍
PM me.
Me personally, I'm going skydiving next week with an home made parachute and ultra late deployment to clean The Shard's windows.
As my heroine Truss recommends, I'm going to "hit the ground on my first day".
Bacofoil will be fine. If you're quick about it, you don't really need PPE, just dash in and out.
IANANS
Deserves some credit. 10/10
You don't need tinfoil for beta particles, just take a few beta-blockers. Don't think there's any useful medication for gamma and neutrons.
Some really poor advice here.
The correct answer is to find a gap year student studying nuclear physics and hire them to do the work. Make sure your lawyer gets the contract right so the university remains responsible for settling the lawsuit.
This is a job for the Assistant Reactor Safety Engineer (ARSE)
Don’t think there’s any useful medication for gamma and neutrons.
The best way to prevent the ingress of gammon particles is a good strong honey glaze.
Surely if Covid has taught us anything, it's that making a face mask out of your old pants and wearing it so it's tucked under your nose protects you from anything.
Kit already exists, either NICIE or NICIE2 (New In Core Inspection Equipment) all done by cameras and trappanning of samples for external inspection under electron microscope. No lead pant required!
neila
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Kit already exists, either NICIE or NICIE2 (New In Core Inspection Equipment) all done by cameras and trappanning of samples for external inspection under electron microscope. No lead pant required!
I think the op wants to use sun cream and a hammer. Let's not kill his dream!
either NICIE or NICIE2
Have they usurped Smashie & Nicie?
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Footflaps, you are James Fisher and I claim my £5
This is STW folks. The solution surely involves spoons, traffic cones and piss soaked shoes?
In that case the only applicable answer to this thread is Sudocrem, unless it only works on cats.
Whatever you do make sure the tinfoil is SHINY SIDE OUT otherwise there will be a full Sunday lunch cooking in there.
Footflaps, you are James Fisher and I claim my £5
Correct, we won the competitive tender with a quote for £200 + VAT.
With a 50% uplift if they want it done on a weekend.
Has to be bacofoil, no Tesco value foil, or else.
Not as funny as the diving one, which was not very funny.
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gamma particles
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IAANS...
Will this help?
Having worked with James Fisher over the years I'm surprised that they're even bothering with PPE... My firm is the world lead on reactor graphite inspection and sadly it's all remote, no tin-foil undies required.
Footflaps, you are James Fisher and I claim my £5
Correct, we won the competitive tender with a quote for £200 + VAT.
With a 50% uplift if they want it done on a weekend.
What's the call out penalty if/when the charge machine breaks down?
@neila should have known a dark sider would weigh in. Best not tell them folk actually do jump into the reactor and inspect the boilers.
Maybe you can pick up some tips from this video?
Factor 50 sunscreen unless you want to gain superpowers
hard hat, safety specs, coveralls, gloves and steel toe capped boots to be the minimum requirement just to allowed on site with anything extra as required by a risk assessment for that particular task.
Are you mad? No hi vis. HSE will lock you up and throw away the key.
Oven gloves are really good at what they do. They'd be ideal for such a task.
This is precisely what apprentices are for
Wearing the skin of an apprentice is frowned upon these days
If you're going international make sure you're speaking about the same process. You don't want to be talking about camel toes while they're talking about elephant's feet.
True Story.
I was involved in a decommissioning project on a Magnox reactor at Sellafield.
To prevent radioactive genitals you tucked your trousers into your socks to stop radioactive dust whafting up there when walking about.
So that's all you need - tuck your keks in.
Calder Hall? Those stations were howling, AGR's are much cleaner. C3 gear hasn't changed though, 2 pairs of marigolds and coveralls with the inner set secured with health physics tape.
last time I looked in the garage there was a couple of tin framed bikes - my commuter has a carbon fork with a bonded tin stem tube and the cheap tin wheels have tin nipples on the tin spokes - lots of airliners are made of tin but composite is taking over...I believe the much loved Land Rover Defender had flat tin panels...bored? its around 110years since tin foil started to well and truly disappear...mrs antigee calls it silver foil FFS
Ooh God yeah, Calder Hall and Chapelcross were howling just under the top ducts on pilecap. @squirrelking, dont forget the pink pants and vest!
Dunno about those, just going with what I've been told by those that worked next door. Amazing to think their charge machine trundled between the reactors and its own maintenance building and seagulls used to land in the open air fuel ponds. Different times... 😬
Opening this thread was weird as I was actually going to do nuclear power instead of diving, but then realised I knew so little about nuclear physics that I couldn't. Scary, given that I have a degree in physics. 🙁
But then I didn't realise the original climbing one was about sailing until people started posting pictures of actual masts in actual boats. I was assuming he was talking about radio, phone or electric masts
Week four and counting without doing any mountain biking...
Put on 2kg, still dog tired and heartily pissed off.
As you were ...
Maybe you can pick up some tips from this video?
I was going to link to the same video series. Some of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen. On one hand funny, on the other very very scary
You shouldnt watch them, and your brain says you shouldnt watch them, but you just cant help yourself !
Calder and Chapelcross Charge and Discharge M/Cs were tiny little things. I accidently shutdown R2 at Calder by 'nudging' the Control Rod mechanism with a trolley while going across Pile Cap, such fun. Hunterston As Fuelling M/C had its own building (CMMB), fuelled the reactors from underneath, very odd arrangement...AGRs are much more sensible, built the right way up for a start!