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Well your not really Your trying to set it to a very specific set of circumstances.
The circumstances are that I want hot water... not that unusual?
Step back. Look at the bigger picture.
Your boiler has to meet a wide set of circumstances. As part of the system it's not designed to be super efficient for the hour or so it has to heat hot water.... But the 6-8 hours average Joe uses their heating.
I opened my windows to let the warm air in. Then closed them.
Re fixed the blades to the ceiling fan.
Lit the fire. Room temp up from 13°c to 17.5°c.
Gas central heating remains off until outdoor low single figures occur. I hope.
Lit the fire.
LOL
T-shirt all day, put the aircon on driving home. Looking at the forecast it'll be at least another couple of weeks before I need to turn the heating on.
Lit the fire here too because it's cold outside.
That's it on now. Last two days after opening the windows for a couple of hours in the morning I've just set the thermostat to 17 or 17.5C and left it on all day until turning it off at night.
That said it's hardly firing.
Other economies are being made though. In the thriftifarian tradition I bought Aldi own brand whisky this week.
My wife announced yesterday that we weren't putting the central heating on until November. Very laudable.
That's my wife with the electric blanket on her side of the bed, electric knee blanket and heater in the office, and constantly wanting the log burner lit of an evening 🙂
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Lit the fire here too because it’s cold outside.
Conversely ,we lit the fire because it was cold inside , LOL.
My wife stubbornly refuses to put on the CH , all thermostats are set at their lowest point , and like the ARP warden in DAD's ARMY she keeps shouting turn that light out FFS !!!!
AND , so long as it's not actually raining clothes are still being pegged out on the line to 'dry'.
Although I noticed some were back in, on the landing on the old clothes horse the other day.
It's not cold, so don't need the heating on. Sat here in joggy bottoms and hoodie, just sitting around. Going to brave the not-coldness and remove the hoodie.
It's still not the wife's birthday so it's still off. We have been keeping the humidity down thou and that helps.
Not long now folks.
We went pumpkin picking at the local farm on Tuesday 3pm and scorching hot in the field.
My usual thinking is you mostly go into October with it still warm and finish with it being bloody Baltic but it's barely gone lower than 10c in South Wales apart from a touch of frost randomly a few weeks back, it's set to be 15/16c all next week daytime
I've hardly noticed the boilers not connected to the rads yet, but that's said in a 'the worst is yet to come' rather than 'i'm nails me' kinda way.
Plumbers due Thurs mind to pop the rads on though so there's a get out for Nov/Dec
Anything north of 10c always makes me feel a bit warmer as its my threshold for not wearing gloves on the commute.
I'll be connecting and bleeding the system tomorrow.
Still won't be on though....
TLDR I see a few attempts to improve condensing by reducing flow temp. Wondered if anyone fiddled with pump speed as well.
New boilers have this option I think and separate pumps are usually 3 speed.
I'd like to reduce the pump speed but I'm not sure I can on mine. I haven't seen anything on it that suggests I could.
Well it's warmed up today.
Ironic really that I'm sweating my tits off in the attic trying to improve both insulation and airtightness of the upstairs
Too warm for a fire today 👍.
Living room has stabilised at 15°c.
Pumps.
You might save a bit of electricity (50-100w ish) slowing the system circulation, but generally the rule of thumb is the lower the system temp, the quicker you need circulation to prevent temperature drop across the circuit as it radiates into the rooms.
Lit the burner this am for my youngest as we’re heading out soon. That was a mistake the sun came out soon after and its melting in here.
Pumps.
All modern CH pumps are energy saving already - they sense the number of one TRVs and back off if there aren't many demanding HW. Building regs changed maybe 15 years ago to mandate them in domestic CH.
Had a couple of days off prior to a short break. Planned to bleed the rads but forgot. Hoping that does bite me in a few days time.
Eaves kneesalls and dormer on front of house are all first fix superquilted tomorrow I'll fit the battens to hold it there perminantly. And seal the edges.
If Screwfix ever get round to having the other roll and the roll of double bubble I'll get the back of the house done. . Forgot how big the eaves are at the front of the house. Probably make a door into them and floor them for storage since I'm in there.
All modern CH pumps are energy saving already – they sense the number of one TRVs and back off if there aren’t many demanding HW. Building regs changed maybe 15 years ago to mandate them in domestic CH.
I don't think ours is. How can I tell?
I found the balancing valve for the hot water circuit. It controls the speed through the water heater but this only serves to make the outflow temperature hotter. I don't think the temperature control knob on the boiler is working properly.
Last staple.of the night...... Right through the ring main for the upstairs circuits.
Lucky I had the wagos handy in the upstairs cupboard so we were back in action in a few minutes.
Just come out the eaves attic where it's still about a million degrees to find......the fires on.
Nae amused.
Lovely and warm today, windows open. Got a bead on wearing jeans and t-shirt whilst taking the dog for a walk this morning. Makes a nice break from the rain. Although that looks to be returning tomorrow 🙁
As always, i think it’ll be the damp that gets me to heat the house, not the cold. Barely opening the windows and drying inside along with showers, cooking and continual rain eventually needs something. The doors will start to rub within the week, which may be the trigger.
+1 Daffy.
House is fairly comfortable at the moment but we did two loads of laundry at the weekend, one on Saturday night and one last night. The Saturday load isn't quite dry and last night's load needs to be hung out. It was quite a big load, to be fair. We still have the option of tumble drying it on cheap overnight power, but that's more of a faff because it requires doing different fabrics in different loads.
Aaaannnd, still in shorts and no heating (obv) in Cambs... 🙃
Just saw this:
You might save a bit of electricity (50-100w ish) slowing the system circulation, but generally the rule of thumb is the lower the system temp, the quicker you need circulation to prevent temperature drop across the circuit as it radiates into the rooms.
In my house the rads are all really small, so the temperature difference across each one is only about 6C except the hallway one which is big.
Aaaannnd, still in shorts and no heating (obv) in Cambs… 🙃
Yes, noticed the new grass seed I planted a couple of weeks back is growing nicely....
The summer heat pretty much destroyed more than 50% of it - so a lot of reseeding required.
I don’t think ours is. How can I tell?
What is the make and model?
Still no heating on down here in Bromley - shorts on all day yesterday!
WAs hoping we'd get to November before putting the heating on - weather forecast for this week suggests this'll happen.
Finally caved yesterday and popped the CH on - not because of the cold but because I was decorating and the sodding paint wouldn't dry so I could give it a second coat.
As above with Daffy, it'll be the damp before the temperature. Already starting to feel it a bit, and the bathroom door is sticking. worked out 3 hours of heating is the same as a dehumidifier for 45 minutes...
Probably completely against the current trend, but bought a tumble drier for the garage, purely to avoid wet washing in the house adding to the dampness. costs about 50p per load for bedding. better than having them on radiators/horse for 2 days.
No heating on up here in South Shields................yet.
Though I have taken to wearing jeans and long sleeved tops now. Might put it on for my wife's birthday on the 30th, but that's all she'll be getting 😁
in a 100% non scientific experiment - the bits of my eaves I've managed to get covered in superquilt while not completely air tight - is significantly more airtight than the loosely propped up glassfibre that was there before ( and the glassfibres still there between the joists
the IR thermometer says - walls i have got the spaceblanket on are the same temperature as the internal walls.
The walls i dont have super quilt in - on the same aspect were 2 degrees lower than the internal wall temperature.
On friday all the external walls were lower temeperature than the internal walls
that'll work for me to show its at least doing something. - lets see how it goes when the Delta T gets larger.
Humidity in our house has been rising steadily over the last couple of weeks. Temps are acceptable, but the air is feeling colder. Washing is begining to be difficult to dry and as others have said, a couple of doors has started rubbing.
Im in two minds as to buy a dehumdifier or just put the heating on.
Im in two minds as to buy a dehumdifier or just put the heating on.
Get one. Been raining all WE here, so we just dried the washing in the spare room with the dehumidifier - cheaper than using a dedicated drier and also dries the house out a bit....
What is the make and model?
Range Tribune. Appears to be dumb as a post.
in a 100% non scientific experiment – the bits of my eaves I’ve managed to get covered in superquilt while not completely air tight – is significantly more airtight than the loosely propped up glassfibre that was there before ( and the glassfibres still there between the joists
Where exactly have you put this?
I've bunged the clothes in the dryer as a one-off. It's going to cost a couple of quid.

on the back of the part termed knee wall in this diagram in both sides of the dormer cheeks - as well as around the front apron of the dormer while maintaining the "air flow" from the soffits up and over the roof space into the attic and down the other side.
Historically as you noted from your cavity thread - we would have the air flow coming through the glasswool and you could feel it around the sockets etc - not lots but it was there - and the wall was noticably cooler in winter than internal walls. the plan is to get them all done- and then look at getting something into the sloped areas that i can incorporate into that envelope while retaining the 50mm airflow required - its looklikg like recycled plastic fibre with slightly oversized double bubble holding it slightly compresed leaving clear air flow - taped at both ends.
the rockwool solid batt experiment didnt work but thats going to be repurposed into the roofspace above my dormer which appear to be empty
13C day and 7C night, it went on.
19C is toasty, it's set to 18C most of the day which is fine. Having a low flow temp and a slow flow speed whilst being on for longer really makes the heating work better.
yeah we caved in on the 2nd Nov...
Ours has been "on" all summer - combi boiler and thermostat left at 14. So it wasn't actually heating.
This morning was the second time it actually fired up.
3c here last night. I nearly was forced to close the bedroom window.
After a record breaking October 3.5°C above the average we're back to seasonal weather in these parts. 12°C outside and 19°C inside. Madame hasn't moaned yet but it won't be long before she tells me its under 18 and time to light up. I think it's the first year we've got to bonfire night without any heating.
Even the solar thermal kept producing shower-hot water until a week ago thanks to sunny days and warmer than usual mains water.
1°C overnight in my part of Cheshire (ice on car windows)
Still got my bedroom window open, no thoughts of putting heating on yet.
Still not on here in the midlands, though it's getting close.
We have moved to a thicker duvet though.
Yeah we succumbed on Wednesday, thermostat set at 18 & just a bit to chilly to WFH when it dropped below that.