Come on Moz, just make something up, but please tell us where all the stuff you sell on comes from? In this time of belt tightening it would be of interest to all us 'bike freaks'? You don't have to name names to us if you are worried it might [sharp intake of breath] be hooky?
no 2 people involved only! nobody has proved its stolen so why does everyone keep saying that!! there are only the facts as i have quoted them, everything else is conjecture. i only joined the forum to tell everyone from my point of view, Moz came on and we have had some banter , witty on my side but on moz`s?
Dr Bakes? Hang on ,who promoted you Bakes? Right. I'm getting a fancy new title professor hora.
Anyway on topic. Remember the bikes nicked from Freeborn, lad tracked down to the house. Police? **** all use apperently.
Right then, if that's how its gonna be, from now on it's 'El-Presidente Mitch' to you lot.
"there are only the facts as i have quoted them, everything else is conjecture"
well, quite a lot of your facts have been conjecture too.
I do wonder why you felt the need to come on here and explain yourself at all.
You clearly don't feel entirely comfortable about the situation and how did you find out about the posts on stw anyway - maybe you have another login that you use more regularly?
"maybe you have another login that you use more regularly?"
Ooh, I like it - mysterious and a bit sinister...
waswas you should read the thread properly, i came on here after i bought the frame because of something moz said about stolen bikes from jungle! thats how i found out about the posts, i tried to register which you may be able to check with stw after i paid for the bike at 5 pm, but did not get accepted until this am otherwise i would have been on here sooner. which of my facts have been connjecture then?? come on point them out. and yes i do feel uncomfortable! and yes that is why i am on here ! as for my integrity let me give you all some more info, in the last few days i have just bought the domain names ibis mojo owners and .co.uk names as i intend to get a mojoowners website up and running
will there be a list of numbers for stolen frames on there?
As for facts v conjecture - you made a number of statements about 'knowing' it wasn't stolen. My view is you thought it wasn't stolen (or at least that the guy you bought it from hadn't taken it) and you're now worried you'll be £700 down if the rozzers decide otherwise.
you plum not once did i say i know it wasnt stolen i just said i thought that the seller wasnt a thief how could i possibly know if it was or wasnt stolen , i just ahd an opinion, first hand, not removed like you guys, that the seller didnt steal the bike. and yes there will be a stolen ibis section. and i am not worried about £700 , in fact i also bought an sl frame from ebay last week for £1250 i am not short of money, and as i said before the police are going to come to london just in case i have a stolen mojo, you are even funnier than Moz, how old are you by the way
This thread is like something out of the twilight zone.
how old are you by the way ..... seems relevant
"maybe you have another login that you use more regularly?"
now that's not been done before here has it 😉
Lester, Im confused. In English.
this is obviously a troll, move along all, nothing to see here
Right, after careful consideration, I'm beginning to think moz and Lester are (is) the same person. There are certain styles of sentence construction and conversational style that are marking them out as the same person. It might seem easy to disguise yourself as someone else and mask it with some obviously disastrous spelling but after a while it starts to become clear.
Lester- you bought a frame on a auction like the one on the first page? If you are real?
This is one of the funniest threads in ages.
Keep it it going folks 😆
deadlyDarcy i am so ashamed how can you consider Moz and me the same person, i have told you my ebay name, camsmithcat, you can see the transaction and my feedback!! i have an iq of 156 whereas moz has one of half waswaS AGE. Hora what was the one on the first page? the one that sold for £821 that i got a second chance offer for which i paid deposit of £50 and balance of cash or the SL in large that i bought for £1250.
anyway at least i do what i say i will, the serial number is 07M1**49 so if you can fill in the missing numbers and show me those numbers on a receipt then i will give you the frame back. For the record my other one is 07M2**8
Lester and Moz are clearly the same person
This numpty has probably not stolen the frames - but clearly bought them Cheap of the guy(s) who did, and now wants to make some quick spondoolies
He should spen the dirty cash he makes on getting an education (Night class English grammar) as he obviously couldnt be arsed and thought he was too much of a big man to take any notice at school
If you two are not the same person - aplogies to Lester - but none to Moz
Good luck to both of you!
Youre gonna need it buy the look of this thread / oncoming police investigation!
🙂
THIS IS THE ONE i bought last week #270465043980
and this is the one i bought this week #180418959570
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right to put all the mupets on ere right ive spoken to jungle who rung me back to tell me that the bike dose not one of theres stolen in there theft, although the did own and sell this bike.
this is the end of the matter and i will be listing it on ebay.
anyone who dose not believe me pls ring them on 01132822715 and ask for craig
lester you should bve happy now
180418959570- that is dodgy. Sorry. Its got it written allover it.
The first one (270465043980) you havent bought it. Its got zero feedback.
Are you one of them people who thinks 'it doesnt know where it came from so its alright'? No one would sell a Ibis frame for £50 with zero description on the ad if they are a mtb'er. Its either been through a fence or was sold by one to another.
I hate thieves but I hate the toerags who keep them in business more. Anyone who knows their sport, sees an ad that is dodgy/minimal descrption etc etc but thinks 'Its an opportunity not to be missed and who cares otherwise someone else will get it'- needs a good seeing to.
Well that phone number is a Leeds number according to a google search
,Ragamuffins
Dog Clipping And Grooming
5c Marsh Street Rothwell Leeds LS26 0AG
01132822715
???????????
oops i just realised i put a 1 in the first serial number it should read 07M**49.
whether i enjoyed my dealings with Moz is one thing, but at least he is putting some effort in to clearing his besmirched name, and i hope if he does prove the frames are stolen that you lot are ashamed!! mind you i thought it was a great laugh and hope to see you all one day oin my website which will be one of these
mojoowners.com
mojoowners.co.uk
ibismojo.co.uk
not sure which yet
yes sorry its 01132258105
lester mine not stolen no is there, im cleared and frame goin on e bay
Well that phone number is a Leeds number according to a google search
,Ragamuffins
Dog Clipping And Grooming
5c Marsh Street Rothwell Leeds LS26 0AG
01132822715
I was just going to say that is not a Jungle phone number.... Don't think there are any 'Craigs' working there either.
Clearly nicked warranty returned frames, which of course can't be ridden safely anyway.
has everyone shut up now ?
wills r u dumb or wat the no is there ring it, this makes u out to be thicker than i thought, if they say not theres its not, and you think i would put on e bay after all this, nugget
if this is real, and I doubt it is, you seem to delight in buying stolen bikes, and indeed said 'who else has owned a mojo?' well not me, but then again I've never owned a stolen bike
dont forget who rung them and gave bike no, me no one else
warton u do same this has not been reported stolen
the frame is now up for grabs, any offers welcome
im the one u all accused of theft from jungle yet no one got anything to say now,
Hora please be accurate and only talk about whta you know and not what you think you know, e mail the £1250 guy and ask him if he sold me the frame last week in reading at the b and q and he will tell you yes, but we went outside ebay , how naughty ! am i one of those people who thinks its ok to buy something that has not got a receipt , well unfortunately yes, i have sold lots of things on ebay that were mine and didnt have a receipt , who keeps them or can find them. i sold an armani suit that cost me £900 for £100 and it wasnt fake and didnt have a receipt but it was genuine. also i think its highly unfair to call me a toe - rag until you KNOW AND CAN PROVE that the frame was stolen. have you bought off ebay and have you had a receiptfor all the goods that you have bought? or is it only bikes that should have receipts?? and i say again in 10 years of being an ebayer i have never seen anyone on ebay post a picture of their stolen mojo but i have seen them for lots of other bikes. leave the toe rag stuff alone and be factual
sorry would be great
your sounding good lester
Hora please be accurate and only talk about whta you know and not what you think you know
In fairness, he's only been here a day but he's got Hora taped already. 😉
Warton, you are another a*******e who says the bike was stolen, how do you know or are you do you have a gift? You do NOT know and i dont think you should make any accusations about things that may or may not be true i am reflecting on my buying methods and i may change my future behaviour but i will not take any critisism for what i did, you may be all sceptical cynics, but i like to think people are basically honest
Lester and moz writing a monologue each, what a troll!
nobody knows if Moz or Lester are telling the truth, but tomorrow everyone can phone jungle, check Moz story check my frame number and if they are not stolen i expect everyone to apologise to Moz, i dont need an apology because i dont care what any of you think. if the frames are stolen, as i have said i will give mine back, and Moz can do what he thinks is right.
What is this Troll stuff, was that your t-shirt earlier ? if you used to wear that, enough said, if you bought it from ebay without a receipt enough said, if you own that and keep it but dont wear it enough said. i enjoyed todays banter because it was fun, but now school has finished and the kids are home its got boring
the no ive given is jungles and if anyone knows them they will no craig and know im right
the frame is now up for grabs, any offers welcome
Yes, how much do you want for it? I live not too far away and i'll come and pick it up in person
offers ?
We can talk about it when i get there
train station sounds good
Loving it - best thread in ages, cheers
[i]Jungle Products Ltd Unit 3, The Cedar, New York Mills, Summerbridge, Harrogate, HG3 4LA. phone: 01423 780 088. Fax: 01423 781 514 ...[/i]
I'd rather meet in woodhouse, above the primary school.
police station reception is good with me
thats the best idea you have had all day Moz, i am starting to like you lol,
you some kind of joker?? either you want to sell your ibis frame or you want to fanny around on the interweb?
anyone wants to buy this frame for 500 sale can take place outside local police station tel 07717310547
I'll offer £300 and a pair of Marzocchi bombers? You can have a real good look at the forks they're top notch
he offered it for £400 yesterday
Moz how can you have phoned 'Jungle' as you say who are based in the Harrogate area on a Leeds number? Sounds to me like you have called Stif and spoken to Craig, that number is a Stif number. Who's to say you gave them the actual frame number(s) you have anyway?
Why won't you say how you got the frames in the first place to set everyone's minds at rest?
listen wills ive sorted it with craig, as say number given, i selling this frame which ibis say not reported stolen
listen wills ive sorted it with craig, as say number given, i selling this frame which ibis say not reported stolen
In that case, all is fine. I think hes free to sell it. Hes made a jammy-lucky purchase, being in the right place at the right time. Lets not labour the thread now.
as above jungle phone number is 01423 780 088
I'd have told you my mum's fanny was growing where the "shocker" used to be if I'd taken your call.
nice detective work WillSimmons
and i think Moz should fess up to where and who he got bikes from
Got the Chris, the Moz, the Moza, but who is Mark or indeed jhon (sic)
Just Googled 07717310547
I can guess the answer, but it's fun and i'm bored 🙂
i have that no too, i must have rung stiff, same thing, as i said craig so u no who im on about
Easy girl.
I've been reading part of this thread. Are you NYP or WYPOL. If you're NYP can you email me when you're next in. Shoulder number is 340. I'm just curious who this chap is that's selling this bike.
Cheers
Bullfrog
lets stick to the frames
its quite obvious these are stolen, anyone with half a brain can see that. maybe that's why lester thinks they're legit. and as for calling me an arsehole, I'm not the one buying stolen goods, therefore increasing the demand for them. someone who did that would be a proper arsehole, wouldn't they
bullfrog
g.m.p
ill mail you
Aww mozzy... don't you want my money? or my bombers? 🙁
When you say 'craig' you don't mean craig who works at stif do you?
Is there going to be any pee-ing in shoes??
yes raig at stif
Warton, whatever you THINK is irrelevant you can only have opinions until you have facts and then maybe we can discuss it more, stif and jungle will get lots of calls tomorrow, as for half a brain, maybe but i bet a quarter of my brain is more powrful than yours , its quite obvious these are stolen, why is it obvious i still dont understand how it is obvious just because you dont like what you see, you are like a ref who gives a penalty that wasnt. and if you missed it i said i would give the frame back and lose my money if it was stolen and the guy it was stolen from contacts me. One thought however, i go biking in epping forest, danbury thetford forest i dont know anyone that has had their bike stolen, how comes mojo owners are so careless in Leeds, or maybe they arent stolen maybe they are insurance scams?? who KNOWS not you not me
How would craig at stif know if it was stolen?
[i]It's getting even better, more entertaining.[/i]
oh sorry, as no one on this forum has had it stolen, then it isn't stolen. this is the only forum that every mountain biker in the UK looks at. you are a moron.
Lester = AdamG & I claim my £5 😆
i still think Austin Powers started this thread, lets all help him find his Mojo.
i think it would be great to see who everyone is behind these avatars, kids, people without jobs, people without money, police , evening all, and Moz? hmmm how do we categorize him??
Eight pages of total nonsense as soon as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber turned up.
Has anybody tried to summarise what's going on here?
I think it's The Queens finest english that has me confused. It's almost as bad as 'text speak'.