[Closed] New vehicle - which one? Kia or Skoda

2 x medium sized hardtails with the front wheels off......

How long are you planning to keep the vehicle for? - running a diesel might get expensive if taxation changes and they are not ideal for shorter trips.

I would probably go with the Kia personally as I prefer the looks and value the warranty you mentioned.

Kia honour their warranty and I've heard a lot of good things about it from owners.
Skoda warranty is useless. Unless you like hearing "No fault found"

I do about 16-18 k per year, so diesel makes sense. probably keep the vehicle for 3-4 years.

I have a 2010 Octavia VRS and I had to hire a 68 plate Kia Optima for a weekend. Yes, the Kia had lots of toys etc. but felt crap compared to the older Skoda. I know where my money would go.

I'd go for a Kia, but not the Sportage - isn't the ceed nearer to an Octavia?

Not sure as I'd want a 1.6D Octavia estate, personally. I had the 2.0 diesel hatchback and it was capable but I stuck it in 'Sport' and left it there. You'd likely get a pair of hardtails in the back of the hatch though.

No idea about the Kia, sorry.

isn’t the ceed nearer to an Octavia?

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I’d go for a Kia, but not the Sportage – isn’t the ceed nearer to an Octavia?

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My sister had a Sportage - it was a reverse tardis. A lot smaller inside than it looked.

An Optima or Ceed (or Hyundai i40) would be a better comparison. And a better tool.

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Is a smaller thing than a Ceed Estate.

Kia warranties are very good. My S.I.L just had the shocks replaced under warrenty on her 14 plate Kia Karen's. The dealership changed them for her when she took it in for a service. She didn't even know they were misting. Considering that's a wear and tear part and my S.I.L hadn't even mentioned it, I think that's pretty good serrvice.

it's also worth noting that like-for-like at 7 years old (not sure how long you're intending to keep it) the Kia seems to hold it's value better to the tune of about a £1,500 based on a VERY quick look on AT

My sister had a Sportage – it was a reverse tardis. A lot smaller inside than it looked.

Very much this.
Claustrophobic inside, poor rear visibility and a high window line.
Our just serviced works car also has a certain amount of stiction in the steering, making small corrections a pain.
Apart from that it feels like a quality item.

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Is a smaller thing than a Ceed Estate.

Thought that was the Recede?

how on earth are skoda still making 5 speed cars of this size? is it absolute poverty spec? that kind of milage per year and the economy gains from a tall 6th might make it pay off to get the next model up..

size wise, with seats down the skoda is 187x100x83 and the kia is 167x104x81 (lengthxwidthxheight), so the skoda is usefully longer (not hutely surprising given its 25cm longer) - I don't personally think you'll hit those limits with a hardtail/front wheel out, but it depends on the size

Cheers all. Got an appointment to take the bikes down and see how it fairs. TBH I have an A3 with the same 1.6td engine thats in the Skoda and its been a bit of a problem child, so that's putting me off the Skoda a bit. But others have no issues with the same engine, so its probably my car only.
Weve outgrown the Audi as long as the bike fits in the Kia it could be a winner.
I'm not keen on any other model Kia has to offer.

Why are you only looking at the 1.6TDi in the Octavia. I'd be tempted to get a car that's perhaps a year or so older but has the 2 litre diesel, or test drive one of the TSi petrols.

One bloke I work with has got the petrol TSi in a Seat Ateca (I think it's the 1.5) and gets about 53mpg.
Another guy has the 2 litre TDi in a Leon estate & the petrol TSi in a Leon hatchback (both 150bhp) & he prefers the petrol. He reckons that there is a difference in mpg, but not a great deal. I think last time I was chatting to him about the two cars he said he manages 55mpg out of the petrol.

I've got the 2 litre diesel (150 bhp) in a 18 plate Leon estate. It suits the car well. No problem getting 2 bikes in the back of that, although the Octavia boot is definitely a bit larger.

My OH has that age Sportage, but the top spec version - even has heated rear seats.

It'll get a couple of bikes in but I don't as it's got a tow-bar so I put my rack on whenever I use it.

Only issue I have with it as an occasional driver is trying to work out which steering wheel button does what.

She likes it, tows her horsebox happily (got the 2.0d as it's a higher tow weight) and it not been a Landy means it hopefully won't eat it's injectors & turbos like her previous two cars.

how on earth are skoda still making 5 speed cars of this size? is it absolute poverty spec? that kind of milage per year and the economy gains from a tall 6th might make it pay off to get the next model up..

The same way VW still make base model family cars without rear speakers!

I saw inside a brand new base trim Golf hire car the other day - it looked like (and according to BiL) felt like an early 2000's car -  It had hard plastic, funny silver bits and small switches. To him it felt like huge cost cutting and more wobbly than their own 2003 Yaris.

I do about 16-18 k per year, so diesel makes sense. probably keep the vehicle for 3-4 years

Does the warranty allow you to eat up the 100k miles a none linear way or can you only do a max of 14.3k miles per year each year?

I had a kia sportage and was happy with it. Nothing special but also nothing wrong either.  I could get 2 bike in the boot JUST, with front wheels off but usually removed both. I liked the level boot (can be dropped too) and the retractable parcel shelf which stored under boot floor. As others have said its not huge inside. I now have a SEAT ateca (VW Tiguan/Skoda karoq) and again i can get 2 bikes on the boot with front wheels off, just.

Sportage here (albeit a 2014 model).

With the rear seats down, front wheels off bikes and droppers slammed right down I managed to fit an XL Jeffsy 29er and an L Orange P7 29er upright in the back. The forks slid down nicely behind the front seats and a few bungee cords kept everything steady.

In hindsight, laying them on their sides with a blanket in between them would have been much easier and much quicker. But one has to try these things.

We've had a few Sportages (and Octavias) as company cars. I really like the Sportage, nice to drive. We did have a VRS but being 2WD is was wheel spin tastic on anything other than bone dry roads. Personally I'd go for the Kia for the warranty.

Disclaimer, wife works for Kia (and used to work for Skoda).