[Closed] Neighbour has put up a no parking disabled access required sign….

Phone the council or highways agency. They should be able to tell you if it's legit. If not they should contact the sign putter-upper to get it removed. Sounds like they just want to be able to park outside their house..

Leave it and go make a brew

You don't mention if they are actually disabled or not. If they are then fair play to them but they can apply to the council to have a bay painted outside their house. If they aren't then carry on as normal.

Is this your mini?

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Councils can and do create disabled bays limited to a single numbered permit if needed. That "need" usually means not having anywhere else closer to park a car.

DIY sign and a note? Carry on. I'd probably print off the local council details of how to apply for a disabled bay and stick that through their door.

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in this case, the blue skoda (not mine) is where my car was parked.
the white KA, is parked on their drive, and the house is the one on the rhs of both those cars

So they have a drive and want to reserve the space on the road too?

It’s clearly not an official council sanctioned disabled bay, and I have every right to park my car legally on the street.

Thing is, depending on the council even if there is a disabled bay you can maybe park in it.

E.g. here in Bristol I have a bay outside my house from the previous occupants, I've asked the council to remove it but they haven't/won't. But they (and a parking warden) have told me they're not enforceable and I'll not get a ticket for parking in it.

The neighbours know this too, and know I'm not disabled, so we all just act like it's not there.

It would appear that way...

the property itself is used as some form of supported living, so there is some merit in the argument about needing disabled access, that I think is debunked by the ramp, and drive that they have...

Have they put the sign up to try and keep the drive clear, are you parked a little bit too tight to the access?

How about ringing their doorbell and asking what the note said as you couldn't read it? And then park on the road anyway, unless you think their reason is excellent*. As you say, they have a drive.

*eg as above you parked too close.

that looks like a road 'round the corner from where I used to live. Is there a big park at the back of that house, with a stream in between? If so: we were one street up, closer to the High Street, and parking was always a sod. We moved a couple of streets over (on the other side of that park) to get a bigger more Udderlet-friendly house, and they put a parking control in there to stop people from dumping their cars and flying off on holiday for a fortnight (literally).

If you don't move the car much anyway, stick it somewhere different and let some other bugger take the flak.

Drive doesn't look big enough to take a decent sized car because of the gate positioning.

so we all just act like it's not there.

I find this an excellent approach to any problem or dilemma that life throws up. 🙂

I find this an excellent approach to any problem or dilemma that life throws up.

It works 90% of the time. And the other 10%?

just act like it's not there.

Park where you want. If theres no road box markings it aint legit. I wager the person thinks he owns the road space outside the front of his house.

Around the corner from my house- if you park outside the persons house your car is keyed. The owner is an OAP, doesn't own a car but will key any car parked there. I left mine there for 5mins- came out and it was keyed.

fitnessischeating - Member
the property itself is used as some form of supported living.

If they've got support workers, they'll need somewhere to park too.

Apart from that, can't really see why they have to park outside the door, unless they have an issue that means they can't access the house from the drive.

I'd just ask.

And if they do park on the drive, someone else is always back from work before you.

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If they've got support workers, they'll need somewhere to park too.

I (and all of my neighbours) have direct experience of these people. You park on one side. They'll parallel park alongside you leaving 1.2metre for any car or van to get through. Its never the same people so they don't learn. They just dump their car (usually a knackered looking late plate car) and go in. They don't seem to like walking much. They'd park on the roof of the house if they could, or drive through the bay window.

I was definitely not not blocking access to their drive/gateway.
none of the residents have cars, it will only be the support workers trying to take advantage and "claim" a free space.

I think I will just continue to ignore it, parking where I can on the street, and politely discuss with them if challenged in person.

bent udder, doesent sound like the same place

[quote=fitnessischeating ]none of the residents have cars, it will only be the support workers trying to take advantage and "claim" a free space.

Drip feeding? 🙄

In which case, given the support workers can park on the drive, it's not something they require at all so just ignore it.

I'll assume you're both trolling and leave you to it.

Good job they haven't got an estate car - the back end would be blocking the path. Looks a bit like the roads in Portsmouth - never designed for families with cars. Whole lot should be razed and rebuilt! 🙂

Someone near me has put up a sign saying 'police notice - please don't park here' guess they're old.

As a student in a house with 3 cars we struggled for space but next door neighbour asked us not to park in front of his house as once Patrick Moore had come over to visit unannounced but didn't stop as thought they had visitors due to the car outside. Whenever anyone did we got a letter through the post reminding is not to.

If you're not parked alongside the dropped kerb and there is no marked disabled space on the road they can do one.
There's plenty of room for them to reverse out of their drive so, unless its a council approved & fitted notice it can be safely ignored.

Looks similar to our street. There's an old git who has a garage and lean-to to accommodate two cars, but when his daughter comes to stay he parks his car in the road to effectively reserve a space for her. Its always the same, those who have allocated parking always want more than their fair share. The last two streets i've lived in have been the same.

Spot the difference in these two statements, with regard to how they affect you:

"Neighbour has put a sign outside his house."

"Neighbour has put a pot plant outside his house."

Anyone? Bueller? That's right, the correct answer is "none whatsoever."

Where I live, parking is the same bunfight that anyone who has ever lived in a terrace will be familiar with. Two council (presumably) marked disabled bays sprang up a few years ago, one a sensible size and the other huge. At the risk of sounding like a Daily Mail reader and with the caveat that I understand that disabled people don't always appear disabled, I've never seen anyone appearing to have mobility issues anywhere near them. The smaller bay is always empty (or at least, I've never seen it used) and the big daft one usually contains one of two vehicles popular with disabled drivers, the M-Sport 3 Series.

Have you not been listening to Ian Duncan Smith? There are no disabled people. They don't exist. They're all shirkers and bloody skivers who want to live out their days sponging off the rest of us. Faking it! The lot of 'em!!! The bastards!!

You should purloin a traffic cone and leave it outside his house on Xmas eve with a bow and wrapping paper on it.

Several people in our street put cones out, outside their houses when they are out. I sometimes put them back in their garden, in case anyone steals them. I've never seen the aftermath but it keeps me happy.

Fun fact , creating a diabled bay costs around 3k ??

Is this your mini?

Several people in our street put cones out, outside their houses when they are out.

Yes parking near your house can be troublesome but anyone starting with homemade signs and obstructions can do one.

"Several people in our street put cones out, outside their houses when they are out"

when i lived in the city i had neighbours like this....blackbumpers are your friend- cones slide if you bump into them nice and slow.

fishboxes (the plastic ones) were another popular item for marking spaces.

OP you want to learn how to park in small spaces like this guy...

then your problems will go away... 😆

Would the residents need to be dropped off in a minibus/taxi close to their home? With mobility problems it could mean a vehicle blocking the road while they make their way to the house. A clear spot makes everything run easier.
Support/care workers are probably better paid doing their job rather than spending their time looking for a parking spot and finding one two streets away. Though some may look like the walk would do them good.

PS May I be the first to blame Thatcher and her dogma of "everyone should have a car and I am going to make sure of that by screwing up public transport."

OP you want to learn how to park in small spaces like this guy

Strike back, strike hard.

What about a sign outside your house saying

'MY PARKING - NO DISABLEDS'

(live on a terrace with parking obsessed neighbours myself, I'm usually the first to leave for work and the last home so rarely get near the house but you've just got to ignore it the only answer is to park somewhere else if you can within reason but if not it's just tough titties for them)

Peeps are so possesive of their parking space,obtain a scrap car and dump in space outside their house, with tyres let down of course to stop it rolling away.

Peeps are so possesive of their parking space,obtain a scrap car and dump in space outside their house, with tyres let down of course to stop it rolling away.

I've always wanted to do that.

Except instead of letting the tyres down I'd slash them and fill them with concrete. Then pour a load in through the sunroof. Lets see them get that on a loader...

My neighbour lectured me about good neighbourly relations and showing consideration for other people when I parked outside his house. Apparently his wife found reversing onto their drive inconvenient. Further lectures about blocking the road, obstructing a tight turn and veiled threats along the lines of "does your insurance company know you park on the road?" followed.

He got so wound up by it that he's bought, taxed, and insured an old banger and dumped it on the pavement outside his own house. Which I consider a result.

Some folk are batshit crazy when it comes to parking. When my Mrs worked at Darlo hospital she couldn't get a staff parking pass so parked around the corner on a terraced street. Some "genius" undid some of her wheel nuts for daring to park there. Pure psychotic lunatics.

Dust off and nuke them from orbit...only way to be sure.

Peeps are so possesive of their parking space,obtain a scrap car and dump in space outside their house, with tyres let down of course to stop it rolling away.

A Luton Box Van would be better. Block out all their sunlight so their children grow up with Rickets.

That'll learn 'em!

A couple down the road had a disabled bay put outside their house even though they have a driveway and there are no parking restrictions at all on the road (or any surrounding).

He since died, but the Council won't remove the bay or signage due to the cost.

Some folk are batshit crazy when it comes to parking

This x100

Some "genius" undid some of her wheel nuts for daring to park there.

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When did she realise this had happened?

I hope it was followed up by having CCTV checked and knocking on some doors?

[quote=Flaperon ]He got so wound up by it that he's bought, taxed, and insured an old banger and dumped it on the pavement outside his own house. Which I consider a result.

On the pavement? Have you reported him for breaking the law yet?

I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.

Undid wheel nuts?!! Serious? I'd be banging on a door and putting bejesus up them. Thats a very serious intent.

[quote=jambourgie ]I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.

Driving on the pavement is against the law everywhere, so unless he hired a crane...

I used to have to park in a terraced street where a lot of pensioners lived. I generally parked at the same houses, presumably where people had gone to work. Over the course of a few weeks all the residents cottoned on to the idea of leaving police cones outside their houses. Started off with one or two then quickly became half the street. It put a lot of people off.

As I drove a lifted Hilux the dumpy little police cones didn't really make for any issues parking, but the people who had previously ignored me parking all seemed to think this was all of a sudden a fully legal and legitimate way of stopping people parking so they gave off stink every day after the cones went down. As public service I decided to drive up and down the street and crush the cones.

aracer - Member
jambourgie » I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.
Driving on the pavement is against the law everywhere, so unless he hired a crane...

Crane-hire firms must be doing a roaring trade where I live then (not London), there's so many cars parked on the pavements that it's generally easier to walk down the middle of the road.

Really aracer....

I assume all these cars levitate into driveways where the pavement passes the house.

That must be the case, jam, as I'm sure it's only cyclists who break the law. Curiously it's exactly the same law which says that cyclists can't ride on the pavement.

[quote=trail_rat ]I assume all these cars levitate into driveways where the pavement passes the house.

Well there is of course an exception for "gaining lawful access to property" 🙄

Ah ok , not quite as first described then.

Shame that unless they crossed a yellow line to get to where they are parked or are blocking a tactile dropped kerb - out side of london then its not actually illigal to park on the pavement,

Although there are quite rightly calls for it to be outlawed for obvious reasons

Undid wheel nuts?!! Serious? I'd be banging on a door and putting bejesus up them. Thats a very serious intent.

This was around 6 years ago. The wheel "luckily" held. She complained that there was some knocking from the front wheel, I took it out for a test and when I got back to jack it up I noticed them loose. As she parked in a few different streets it was a bit difficult to go on a hunt.
However, hind sight etc I probably should have.

Unfortunately, some people are sick in the head.

One of the few things that winds me up is parking on the pavement. I sometimes daydream about getting a huge circular saw and cutting all the cars in half where they're on the pavement...

Yes, I know. I'm losing it...

Just park there and then limp really badly every time you get out of the car?

As public service I decided to drive up and down the street and crush the cones.

You should have been given a medal for services to the community 😀

Cheers, Rich

We recently received a letter from the council saying that they'd been informed by social services that as a resident in our house was a blue badge holder, our property would benefit from a disabled bay being painted on the road outside. They gave us dates to consult with them, etc.

I phoned them and pointed out that neither of us had a blue badge, and they were presumably thinking of the elderly lady who owned the house before us - who'd moved out three years previously. What's more, four or five years ago, her son had successfully applied for a drop kerb to be installed in front of the house, and converted the front garden to a driveway.

I don't know if it's a sign that the council are quite proactive with giving out disabled spaces, or really, really slow...

[quote=Mrs Toast ]I don't know if it's a sign that the council are quite proactive with giving out disabled spaces, or really, really slow...

I know where I'd put my money.

For jambourgie

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5 spaces outside our row of 5 houses. Not sure how the divvots next door but one manage to make an Audi A3 take up three spaces, but they manage it.

Could be worse, some nozzle opposite has just bought a boat, terraces with on road parking and this trailer has to be three cars long in itself.

Could be worse, some nozzle opposite has just bought a boat, terraces with on road parking and this trailer has to be three cars long in itself.

I didn't think that was legal to store a boat on a public road?

Loving the term "nozzle" as an insult. That's my word of the day tomorrow in the office.

Our (private) cul-de-sac has five houses, and as it is built on the side of a hill with a steep driveway each of the four original houses has an allocated parking space at the top of the drive on a hardstanding. It doesn't get much use until the winter, when it becomes vital, otherwise all the cars get snowed in. The fifth house at the top doesn't have a parking space, having been built several years after the first four. The house changed hands shortly after we moved in, and at more or less the same time an old B reg ford Escort appeared in one of the parking spaces. I thought nothing of it until the new neighbour collared me and asked whose it was. I told her I had no idea, but she let loose with a rant about how she had moved here from North Leeds to see the view, and didn't want it spoiling with a beat up old car. I shrugged. I couldn't see the car from my house, and pointed out that she would have to lean out of the window to see it herself, which wasn't the most diplomatic approach, but it clearly gave her something to froth about. I also pointed out that the parking space belonged to one of the other houses and she began saying something about it belonging to her house. I should have twigged really.

A week later and the car was still there. I mentioned it to one of the other neighbours and he told me it was his son's car. They had decided to scrap it, and had simply left it there a couple of days while they arranged a tow-truck. He then confided that the new neighbour had found out and launched into a full-scale rant telling him off for spoiling the view etc. I giggled a bit and he said that they had decided they would keep the car for a few more weeks as she had been so rude!

Next news, a woman living opposite on the narrow terraced street got a new boyfriend. He parked (cheekily, but hey!) on the top of the hardstanding. The Empress as we now knew her, put various notices on his car which were often to be found balled up in her garden. It was clear that she now found herself lone defender of the hardstanding. She made her long-suffering husband go out and buy private parking notices and screw them to the wall around the hardstanding. I found this to be a very charitable act under the circumstances, as it must have cost them a lot of money. They had to do it three times before they eventually gave up, as each time they put a new one up it was ripped off the wall and thrown into their garden.

The final event was the most amusing. A mate and I were heading away for a weekend shooting. He parked his car in my allotted space on the hardstanding and we set off in my car. When we got back on the Sunday afternoon we saw there was a letter on his windscreen. He removed it, read it, and threw it down to me. Sure enough it was a letter from the Empress berating him for his selfish and inconsiderate parking in a private parking space. He drove off, and thirty seconds later the Empress, who must have been curtain twitching, appeared at my door. She started to tell me off for letting him park there for the weekend. It had been a real nuisance as she had arranged for a kitchen fitter to park his van there. I stopped her mid-flow and fetched my copy of the house deeds, which showed that the hardstanding was nothing to do with her, the four spaces were numbered with the original four houses. She went a strange shade of purple. She then started to shout that the person who sold her the house had assured her the parking space was hers. Feeling a bit more diplomatic this time I reminded her of all the time, trouble and emotion she had invested in the defence of the space, and thanked her for her efforts, but suggested that she should mind her own business if she didn't want to fall out with any more neighbours.

I don't think I ever spoke to her after that.

My pet hate is people parking and leaving half a space to the end of a run of parking spaces, there for needless shortening the clearly already short run of spaces. Are they stupid, or ... they can only be stupid, incredibly stupid.

I think a lot of people drive and park on autopilot, they honestly don't think about consideration or how their actions might affect others.
I think thats what winds up those of us who do.

I stopped her mid-flow and fetched my copy of the house deeds, which showed that the hardstanding was nothing to do with her, the four spaces were numbered with the original four houses. She went a strange shade of purple. She then started to shout that the person who sold her the house had assured her the parking space was hers. Feeling a bit more diplomatic this time I reminded her of all the time, trouble and emotion she had invested in the defence of the space, and thanked her for her efforts, but suggested that she should mind her own business if she didn't want to fall out with any more neighbours.

Fantastic.

My pet hate is people parking and leaving half a space to the end of a run of parking spaces

You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park [i]directly[/i] outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.

You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park directly outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.

Ha. At work there is a service road that takes the overflow from the car park, luckily we seem to have managed to delivered a system of filling up this road like a stack, that is until someone from the drawing office decides to start parking in middle making most inefficient use of the space. Grrr. <\Word aligned car parking fail>

You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park directly outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.

Do you live on my block?

We have 2 blocks of 5 terraces on one side and a council depot on the other which everyone parks alongside. Everyone leaves in the morning just as the depot workers arrive and switch places again in the evening, not a problem you think. Except the one old woman who (and to be fair I think she has something up with her as she's constantly shaking her head and takes about 5 mins to park on a good day) insists on leaving a Suzuki Ignis length gap at either end of hers. Infuriating doesn't cover it.

Next house will have a driveway and/or garage, mark my words.

In all fairness, when you see a car parked in two cars' worth of saves, it might not have been parked like that initially. It can happen that you park nicely behind a big car or van and that gets replaced with a small car or similar whilst you are gone.

When did they legalise parking on the pavement?

twas never illigal.

you get charged with obstruction if you block the pavement and cause an obstruction.

if the pavements 18ft wide and you dont cross double yellow lines to get on to the pavement - and dont cause obstruction cause its so wide = no issue.

On my brother in law's street, the pavement has a white line along the length of it so you can park half on it. They didn't even bother to drop the kerbs, so you have to bump up the quite substantial kerb to get on.

[quote=trail_rat ]if the pavements 18ft wide and you dont cross double yellow lines to get on to the pavement - and dont cause obstruction cause its so wide = no issue.

Still illegal in the absence of a crane. Fairly sure yellow lines are a complete irrelevance to this.

"Still illegal in the absence of a crane."

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q387.htm

no mentions of cranes here , just obstruction offences and bylaws like london....

oh an i am aware of what the highwaycode says - playing devils advocate here in that unless you drive onto/off of the pavement infront of the police it would be pretty hard to get a driving on the pavement charge to stick.

Next house will have a driveway and/or garage, mark my words.

Around here that's not copper bottomed that you will be able to park up as I've often got some selfish person come along and park across the gates and my mates always having it happen as well.

I've now resorted to moving the Van and Car around so that the Gates are always blocked by one of my Vehicles so I can actually get to work.

[quote=trail_rat ]oh an i am aware of what the highwaycode says - playing devils advocate here in that unless you drive onto/off of the pavement infront of the police it would be pretty hard to get a driving on the pavement charge to stick.

Not just the HC - section 72 of 1835 Highways Act, which is still in force. All sorts of things the police choose not to prosecute - I expect obstruction due to parking on the pavement is also one - which doesn't make them legal.

On a point of note, London is different from the rest of the UK; they've a TfL bylaw explicitly prohibiting parking on the pavement.

"On a point of note, London is different from the rest of the UK"

Todays winner 😀

With their parking regulations, you nugget.

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