[quote=Flaperon ]He got so wound up by it that he's bought, taxed, and insured an old banger and dumped it on the pavement outside his own house. Which I consider a result.
On the pavement? Have you reported him for breaking the law yet?
I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.
Undid wheel nuts?!! Serious? I'd be banging on a door and putting bejesus up them. Thats a very serious intent.
[quote=jambourgie ]I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.
Driving on the pavement is against the law everywhere, so unless he hired a crane...
I used to have to park in a terraced street where a lot of pensioners lived. I generally parked at the same houses, presumably where people had gone to work. Over the course of a few weeks all the residents cottoned on to the idea of leaving police cones outside their houses. Started off with one or two then quickly became half the street. It put a lot of people off.
As I drove a lifted Hilux the dumpy little police cones didn't really make for any issues parking, but the people who had previously ignored me parking all seemed to think this was all of a sudden a fully legal and legitimate way of stopping people parking so they gave off stink every day after the cones went down. As public service I decided to drive up and down the street and crush the cones.
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jambourgie » I think parking on the pavement is only against the law in London.
Driving on the pavement is against the law everywhere, so unless he hired a crane...
Crane-hire firms must be doing a roaring trade where I live then (not London), there's so many cars parked on the pavements that it's generally easier to walk down the middle of the road.
Really aracer....
I assume all these cars levitate into driveways where the pavement passes the house.
That must be the case, jam, as I'm sure it's only cyclists who break the law. Curiously it's exactly the same law which says that cyclists can't ride on the pavement.
[quote=trail_rat ]I assume all these cars levitate into driveways where the pavement passes the house.
Well there is of course an exception for "gaining lawful access to property" 🙄
Ah ok , not quite as first described then.
Shame that unless they crossed a yellow line to get to where they are parked or are blocking a tactile dropped kerb - out side of london then its not actually illigal to park on the pavement,
Although there are quite rightly calls for it to be outlawed for obvious reasons
Undid wheel nuts?!! Serious? I'd be banging on a door and putting bejesus up them. Thats a very serious intent.
This was around 6 years ago. The wheel "luckily" held. She complained that there was some knocking from the front wheel, I took it out for a test and when I got back to jack it up I noticed them loose. As she parked in a few different streets it was a bit difficult to go on a hunt.
However, hind sight etc I probably should have.
Unfortunately, some people are sick in the head.
One of the few things that winds me up is parking on the pavement. I sometimes daydream about getting a huge circular saw and cutting all the cars in half where they're on the pavement...
Yes, I know. I'm losing it...
Just park there and then limp really badly every time you get out of the car?
As public service I decided to drive up and down the street and crush the cones.
You should have been given a medal for services to the community 😀
Cheers, Rich
We recently received a letter from the council saying that they'd been informed by social services that as a resident in our house was a blue badge holder, our property would benefit from a disabled bay being painted on the road outside. They gave us dates to consult with them, etc.
I phoned them and pointed out that neither of us had a blue badge, and they were presumably thinking of the elderly lady who owned the house before us - who'd moved out three years previously. What's more, four or five years ago, her son had successfully applied for a drop kerb to be installed in front of the house, and converted the front garden to a driveway.
I don't know if it's a sign that the council are quite proactive with giving out disabled spaces, or really, really slow...
[quote=Mrs Toast ]I don't know if it's a sign that the council are quite proactive with giving out disabled spaces, or really, really slow...
I know where I'd put my money.
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5 spaces outside our row of 5 houses. Not sure how the divvots next door but one manage to make an Audi A3 take up three spaces, but they manage it.
Could be worse, some nozzle opposite has just bought a boat, terraces with on road parking and this trailer has to be three cars long in itself.
Could be worse, some nozzle opposite has just bought a boat, terraces with on road parking and this trailer has to be three cars long in itself.
I didn't think that was legal to store a boat on a public road?
Loving the term "nozzle" as an insult. That's my word of the day tomorrow in the office.
Our (private) cul-de-sac has five houses, and as it is built on the side of a hill with a steep driveway each of the four original houses has an allocated parking space at the top of the drive on a hardstanding. It doesn't get much use until the winter, when it becomes vital, otherwise all the cars get snowed in. The fifth house at the top doesn't have a parking space, having been built several years after the first four. The house changed hands shortly after we moved in, and at more or less the same time an old B reg ford Escort appeared in one of the parking spaces. I thought nothing of it until the new neighbour collared me and asked whose it was. I told her I had no idea, but she let loose with a rant about how she had moved here from North Leeds to see the view, and didn't want it spoiling with a beat up old car. I shrugged. I couldn't see the car from my house, and pointed out that she would have to lean out of the window to see it herself, which wasn't the most diplomatic approach, but it clearly gave her something to froth about. I also pointed out that the parking space belonged to one of the other houses and she began saying something about it belonging to her house. I should have twigged really.
A week later and the car was still there. I mentioned it to one of the other neighbours and he told me it was his son's car. They had decided to scrap it, and had simply left it there a couple of days while they arranged a tow-truck. He then confided that the new neighbour had found out and launched into a full-scale rant telling him off for spoiling the view etc. I giggled a bit and he said that they had decided they would keep the car for a few more weeks as she had been so rude!
Next news, a woman living opposite on the narrow terraced street got a new boyfriend. He parked (cheekily, but hey!) on the top of the hardstanding. The Empress as we now knew her, put various notices on his car which were often to be found balled up in her garden. It was clear that she now found herself lone defender of the hardstanding. She made her long-suffering husband go out and buy private parking notices and screw them to the wall around the hardstanding. I found this to be a very charitable act under the circumstances, as it must have cost them a lot of money. They had to do it three times before they eventually gave up, as each time they put a new one up it was ripped off the wall and thrown into their garden.
The final event was the most amusing. A mate and I were heading away for a weekend shooting. He parked his car in my allotted space on the hardstanding and we set off in my car. When we got back on the Sunday afternoon we saw there was a letter on his windscreen. He removed it, read it, and threw it down to me. Sure enough it was a letter from the Empress berating him for his selfish and inconsiderate parking in a private parking space. He drove off, and thirty seconds later the Empress, who must have been curtain twitching, appeared at my door. She started to tell me off for letting him park there for the weekend. It had been a real nuisance as she had arranged for a kitchen fitter to park his van there. I stopped her mid-flow and fetched my copy of the house deeds, which showed that the hardstanding was nothing to do with her, the four spaces were numbered with the original four houses. She went a strange shade of purple. She then started to shout that the person who sold her the house had assured her the parking space was hers. Feeling a bit more diplomatic this time I reminded her of all the time, trouble and emotion she had invested in the defence of the space, and thanked her for her efforts, but suggested that she should mind her own business if she didn't want to fall out with any more neighbours.
I don't think I ever spoke to her after that.
My pet hate is people parking and leaving half a space to the end of a run of parking spaces, there for needless shortening the clearly already short run of spaces. Are they stupid, or ... they can only be stupid, incredibly stupid.
I think a lot of people drive and park on autopilot, they honestly don't think about consideration or how their actions might affect others.
I think thats what winds up those of us who do.
I stopped her mid-flow and fetched my copy of the house deeds, which showed that the hardstanding was nothing to do with her, the four spaces were numbered with the original four houses. She went a strange shade of purple. She then started to shout that the person who sold her the house had assured her the parking space was hers. Feeling a bit more diplomatic this time I reminded her of all the time, trouble and emotion she had invested in the defence of the space, and thanked her for her efforts, but suggested that she should mind her own business if she didn't want to fall out with any more neighbours.
Fantastic.
My pet hate is people parking and leaving half a space to the end of a run of parking spaces
You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park [i]directly[/i] outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.
You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park directly outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.
Ha. At work there is a service road that takes the overflow from the car park, luckily we seem to have managed to delivered a system of filling up this road like a stack, that is until someone from the drawing office decides to start parking in middle making most inefficient use of the space. Grrr. <\Word aligned car parking fail>
You'd love living here. Leaving just enough space between vehicles to almost, but not quite, park another car (doue to them having to park directly outside their own house rather than a yard further forward / back) is an olympic sport.
Do you live on my block?
We have 2 blocks of 5 terraces on one side and a council depot on the other which everyone parks alongside. Everyone leaves in the morning just as the depot workers arrive and switch places again in the evening, not a problem you think. Except the one old woman who (and to be fair I think she has something up with her as she's constantly shaking her head and takes about 5 mins to park on a good day) insists on leaving a Suzuki Ignis length gap at either end of hers. Infuriating doesn't cover it.
Next house will have a driveway and/or garage, mark my words.
In all fairness, when you see a car parked in two cars' worth of saves, it might not have been parked like that initially. It can happen that you park nicely behind a big car or van and that gets replaced with a small car or similar whilst you are gone.
When did they legalise parking on the pavement?
twas never illigal.
you get charged with obstruction if you block the pavement and cause an obstruction.
if the pavements 18ft wide and you dont cross double yellow lines to get on to the pavement - and dont cause obstruction cause its so wide = no issue.
On my brother in law's street, the pavement has a white line along the length of it so you can park half on it. They didn't even bother to drop the kerbs, so you have to bump up the quite substantial kerb to get on.
[quote=trail_rat ]if the pavements 18ft wide and you dont cross double yellow lines to get on to the pavement - and dont cause obstruction cause its so wide = no issue.
Still illegal in the absence of a crane. Fairly sure yellow lines are a complete irrelevance to this.
"Still illegal in the absence of a crane."
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q387.htm
no mentions of cranes here , just obstruction offences and bylaws like london....
oh an i am aware of what the highwaycode says - playing devils advocate here in that unless you drive onto/off of the pavement infront of the police it would be pretty hard to get a driving on the pavement charge to stick.
Next house will have a driveway and/or garage, mark my words.
Around here that's not copper bottomed that you will be able to park up as I've often got some selfish person come along and park across the gates and my mates always having it happen as well.
I've now resorted to moving the Van and Car around so that the Gates are always blocked by one of my Vehicles so I can actually get to work.
[quote=trail_rat ]oh an i am aware of what the highwaycode says - playing devils advocate here in that unless you drive onto/off of the pavement infront of the police it would be pretty hard to get a driving on the pavement charge to stick.
Not just the HC - section 72 of 1835 Highways Act, which is still in force. All sorts of things the police choose not to prosecute - I expect obstruction due to parking on the pavement is also one - which doesn't make them legal.
On a point of note, London is different from the rest of the UK; they've a TfL bylaw explicitly prohibiting parking on the pavement.
"On a point of note, London is different from the rest of the UK"
Todays winner 😀
With their parking regulations, you nugget.
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Oh get her, double points.
Simmy. Just call the police next time someone blocks youin. Afak it is illegal to deny someone access to the public highway someone access to the public highway. Which always took blocking your car on the drive to mean
In Chisiwck (London) on Bollo lane there are parking spaces half on half off the kerb: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @51.4969263,-0.2712501,3a,75y,239.72h,53.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1si6hGgG4x0hkUJfgIsdGBOA!2e0
In the week I live on an entirely terraced road in London and parking is a nightmare. Luckily I cycle to work and leave later than most people, so after a night ride when I've had to park on another street, I move it back in the morning when everyones gone to work. 8)
I thought it was bad, however reading this thread I'm considering myself lucky that no one's resorted to putting up signs, leaving out cones or claiming the public highway as their own!
"Simmy. Just call the police next time someone blocks youin. Afak it is illegal to deny someone access to the public highway someone access to the public highway. Which always took blocking your car on the drive to mean"
assuming he has a real drive with a drop kerb.....
IIRc its not illigal to park if theres no drop kerb - car in or not. - and its also not "illigal" to park across a drop kerb drive way with no car in.- but because its inconsiderate behavior - it falls under the obstruction charge yet again.
failing that - trolly jack under the rear axle and push it back.
It is illegal. Punishment ranges from dragging shopping along the door panels to knocking off the wing mirror. It is one of those arcane laws where the punishment can legally be metered out by any member of the public.When did they legalise parking on the pavement?
"It is illegal. Punishment ranges from dragging shopping along the door panels to knocking off the wing mirror. It is one of those arcane laws where the punishment can legally be metered out by any member of the public."
thats a bit harsh on my neighbour..... shes the only one on the street whos still council so has not had a driveway conversion - but if she parks her (mobility no less) car on the road not on the pavement* (which has no yellows) no one else can get up the road to beyond her car.....
your rule sounds more like it would apply to inconsiderate parking -regardless of where , like those folk that insist on taking up 2 spaces so no one parks near their car.....
*said pavement only connects 8 houses in the middle of no where and leads to no where ..... but its still officially a pavement maintained by the council
its also not "illigal" to park across a drop kerb drive way with no car in
I don't that's the case, you know.
AKAIK, it's against the law to block a dropped kerb regardless of whether it's in use or not. And if there isn't a dropped kerb then the driveway isn't legal as you're effectively driving on the pavement to get to it. I think, anyway.
ah looks like your right - england and wales have different rulez.
TMA 2004 is your bible for this and it is illigal in its whole with you guys.
It's only illegal if there is a car in the drive.
Edit - In Scotland.
