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TBH i'm surprised he's got time to upset the neighbours. farmers are usually busy burying asbestos and burning plastic this time of year aren't they?
Don't forget collecting old tyres. This takes a lot of time, effort and energy and is a nationwide farming competition. Big prizes involved for the most tyres covering a massive tarpaulin.
Agricultural theft is big business. Tractors, 4x4s, quad bikes etc.
There's your answer OP. Quit being a teacher and join the lucrative world of agriculture vehicle theft. If his tractor is as nice as you've described, surely the local fence for farm machinery will spread the word. Soon your mad skillz in stealing fancy tractors will have you living the high life.
They say you dont understand what its like to be a farmer? They don't understand what it's like to be a townsperson
I'm neither fowl nor fish. Brought up rural, but I tasted the fruit of urban plenty in the dizzying metropolis of Exeter for too long, I can't go back now.
Tractor theft is a big thing. You would think that with a small cheap budget tractor costing around £30K and anything in the normal size in use today being about £60-80K that security would be a big deal. However, most tractors can still be started with a common key (I think there are only about 3 or 4 different keys in use by some manufacturers. It may be changing but things like immobilizers and alarms are not commonly fitted to tractors. I just had a new clutch fitted in my Massey at the local dealers. When I collected it it had a different key in it. I had to go back to the office and swap it for mine (I preferred my key ring 🙂 )
is there a lot of people keen on being woken up really early by their neighbours inconsiderate actions?to me this is classic nimbyism
I think there are only about 3 or 4 different keys in use by some manufacturers. It may be changing but things like immobilizers and alarms are not commonly fitted to tractors
I'm so nicking me a tractor!
And it just so happens there's a lovely blue one opposite.
Did not know the tractor/key thing!
Maybe that's why he blocks it in?
New Holland? (Big blue tractor).
I must admit if I spent £60k on a tractor I'd want to drive it all the time as well! 😆
ignore the liberals on here . He's being a selfish ignorant **** who needs to learn about being considerate towards others but sounds like he never will. . I dislike unreasonable nimbys but you don't sound like one .Waking people up with loud machinery in a residential area on a regular basis is not acceptable and i'd speak to the local authorities and to hell with the consequences . I feel like popping over to Ottery right now and having a little chat with the moron but I'd probably end up in court. As you've guessed I hate inconsiderate people and ruining peoples' sleep is a major intrusion . Grass the wxxxer for red diesel usage outside allowed limits . Not a nice thing to do but sounds like you've no choice unless you can ignore it or kill him. Good luck
It seems pretty obvious that you need to kill him. The only question is how to dispose of the body?
And a quick respray and you've got your very own tractor. How cool is that?!
It seems pretty obvious that you need to kill him. The only question is how to dispose of the body?
Eat him.
It's the West Country. No one will judge you. 😉
I [u]do[/u] know a good butcher. He runs his own restaurant too, might be time for some special meat on the menu.
I come from a large extended family of farmers who are spread across several small towns in East Devon and also Somerset, best keep my head down.
But you're a cycling farmer. The best kind 😉
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Tractors and farm machinery get stolen a lot. Valuable and hard to trace and easy to sellto me this is classic nimbyism
Agree on both counts. Tractors are not exactly out of place in rural settings, even rural towns. They are also rather expensive and incredibly easy to pilfer.
By all means get the council involved, but in a rural setting do you honestly think they'll come down against a farmer?
[quote=tjagain ]to me this is classic nimbyism
If it was me complaining, you might have a point, but from the sounds of things the OP doesn't live in a tiny village surrounded by farms like me. The question is what sort of noise pollution would be unacceptable at those hours, and who do farmers get special dispensation?
singletrackmind - MemberHe comes home at 10.30 pm having spent the last 4 hrs drinking Cider in the pub.
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Please cite the case and the law, cheers.Literally the first hit on a google search was this
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-13805083
Not a school playing field but still, close enough.
The article is not clear what the offence is, and appears to have misled some that the mowing of the field with red was the offence. Of course there is no such offence. Driving to the sports field on red would be the offence.
Late to the thread as always but we've faced this problem with pikeys who moved in next door and life became intolerable with all the dogs, drug dealing and all-night raves.
The only answer is to move house. Sorry.
If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves.
He won't be doing much tractoring with a driving ban.
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If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves.
Thats right - call the police and tell them that some people on a cycling forum have made a humorous inference from something not written in the OP about a guy who drives about in a tractor.
If he is drinking and tractoring each night then let the police know which pub he drinks in and what time he leaves
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Best. Car chase. Ever.
Wait a minute, if you think you should put up with noise, that makes you a 'liberal'? Jeez, I've been approaching this whole politics thing all wrong. Thanks Kaiser!
maybe the wrong word ..not meant politically ..just trying to point to people who think anything is OK. As someone said ..those who think it's unreasonable to complain would soon be whining in the same situation after interrupted sleep on a regular basis.
Is that the tractor they chase you with if you 'jump bale'?
I've just realised that the OP is a teacher... You're finished by half-three, so why not have a little siesta then you only need a few hours at night? 😉
I've just realised that the OP is a teacher... You're finished by half-three
Yeah but theirs marking to do. He's got to pretend to read all that stuff the kids have done before giving then a grade from A to E depending whether their dad is a Lawyer, an accountant, a bus driver, a redundant bus driver or in jail. 🙂
Ahhh you're a teacher!? that changes everything. Perhaps you could mount a massive leaflet campaign and canvas the neighbours during all the massive extended gratuitous unwarranted holidays you get every other week. Suck it up teach! 😉
You could try revving your car engine outside his house at 1am for a few nights to see if he starts to understand how anti-social it is. Then again he's probably got a shotgun...
[quote=maccruiskeen ]Yeah but theirs marking to do. He's got to pretend to read all that stuff the kids have done before giving then a grade from A to E depending whether their dad is a Lawyer, an accountant, a bus driver, a redundant bus driver or in jail.
Can we run a sweepstake on what mark the farmers' kids get?
Ahhh you're a teacher!? that changes everything. Perhaps you could mount a massive leaflet campaign and canvas the neighbours during all the massive extended gratuitous unwarranted holidays you get every other week. Suck it up teach
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Let's get tough. The time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard and hit it fast with a major -- and I mean major -- leaflet campaign, and while it's reeling from that, we'd follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theatre and possibly even some benefit concerts. OK? Now, if that's not enough, I'm sorry, it's time for the T-shirts.
You know what if the OP's pupils were all sent to labour in the farmers fields like they're bloody supposed to - why else do they get a 3pm finish and a 6 week sabbatical for the harvest, not to mention the whole clocks going back and forwards thing - the farmer wouldn't even need a bloody tractor.
Tractor theft is a big thing. You would think that with a small cheap budget tractor costing around £30K and anything in the normal size in use today being about £60-80K that security would be a big deal. However, most tractors can still be started with a common key (I think there are only about 3 or 4 different keys in use by some manufacturers. It may be changing but things like immobilizers and alarms are not commonly fitted to tractors. I just had a new clutch fitted in my Massey at the local dealers. When I collected it it had a different key in it. I had to go back to the office and swap it for mine (I preferred my key ring )
They are getting a bit better. The old mans Fastac has a gps in it and you go online and can program a virtual fence so if it leaves it during a certain period (at night) it will ring you. I am debating with him whether that or the programmable spool valves on a spangly touch screen thing will be the first to break .....
Still uses the same key as a road roller mind ....
[quote=smiffy ]Please cite the case and the law, cheers.
Literally the first hit on a google search was this
> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-13805083
Not a school playing field but still, close enough.
The article is not clear what the offence is, and appears to have misled some that the mowing of the field with red was the offence. Of course there is no such offence. Driving to the sports field on red would be the offence.
The offence is using rebated diesel for a purpose that is NOT related to a genuine agricultural/horticultural/forestry operation. Mowing a football field is none of those things. The law is very clear on this.
"Activities not accepted as falling within the definition of agriculture, horticulture or forestry include:
the breeding, rearing or keeping of any creature for purposes relating to sport or recreation
dealing in agricultural, horticultural or forestry products
landscaping
[b]the maintenance of recreational facilities, including beaches
[/b]flood protection
peat or loam extraction
the exploitation of wild animal or fish stocks
construction of buildings or other structures used for purposes relating to agriculture, horticulture or forestry
transportation of agricultural, horticultural or forestry produce, livestock, implements, inputs or waste, other than where this is incidental to an agricultural, horticultural or forestry operation being performed on the land. Accepted transportation uses are as set out under this agreement"
From the FAQ section
[b]I use my tractor for maintaining the grass on sports fields and recreational areas. Can I use red diesel when travelling to and from my work on the public road?[/b]
No, in our view, the preparation and maintenance of grassed areas intended for sport and recreational use is not horticulture.
However, there is some hope for our villain in this story. It appears he MAY be OK using red diesel after all....
[b]Agriculture - what if it is not my farm?
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If you have been contracted to carry out agricultural work at a farm, and use red diesel in your tractor to travel to and from the farm, that is permitted so long as you are going to use your tractor for that work or are using it to carry the materials or equipment that you will need there or to remove any produce or waste resulting from your work. You can also use red diesel when you go home or return to your premises at the end of your day’s work. If you do not work on the farm, and you are not going there to carry out agricultural work, you cannot use red diesel.
Haha
My old man milked cows for a living and before we had a farm of our own (council tenants, he could never afford to buy the land) we lived on an estate in a village (Measham in the nw Leicestershire coalfields so not so posh)
He used to bring the tractor home and park it on the drive.
It was only a little old fordson dexter though not some huge modern behemoth.
I do t remember the townies moaning but I was only three when we moved to the farm
The offence is using rebated diesel for a purpose that is NOT related to a genuine agricultural/horticultural/forestry operation.
Not quite right. the offence is using rebated diesel to [b]travel on the Highway to premises for the [/b]purpose that is NOT related to a genuine agricultural/horticultural/forestry operation.
If he's drinking in the pub each night then how do you know he won't plough in to someone on the way home?
Maybe you should have a word with him about the dangers of drink driving, it might sow the seeds of thought in his mind that it's a bad thing.
Failing that shop him in, if your lucky he may not get bale.
it might sow the seeds of thought
Surely it depends on what type of farming he will be doing?
Well, dairy is no longer the cash cow it was...
Has anyone mentioned how harrowing this must be for the OP?
No, but I saw him furrow his brow, so he must be stressed
Ah usual STW double standards. It's ok for a farmer to evade tax, but not mult millionaires
I'll take your asshat and raise you a massive cockwomble. So why should it be ok for some to avoid tax and duty and not others?
Look, it's highly unlikely I'll report him. I'm just peed off with him running his tractor opposite my house at all hours. I know that farmers work hard (read some of my previous posts Mr C'womble), but he could just drive a car to work like normal folk do.
why is reporting a tax avoider or a benefit fraudster or a texting driver or any number of "trivial" offences make you an asshat?
I never got the "dont grass" rule criminals would like us all to adhere to so they can get away with more crimes
You need to out-tractor him. Simply purchase a bigger tractor, this will make him ashamed of his and thus want to hide it on the farm
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Well god-of-tractors be praised he had a lie-in this morning. The wife said he went out at about 9.30 in the end.
On the other hand he just got home 10 minutes ago and left the engine running for 5 minutes while he went into the house. I think he might be trying to wind me up!
I was tempted to go and jack his wheels, but I didn't, well, because shotguns.