[Closed] "Natural authority"

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I think it's something that can be cultivated

'Natural authority' comes from getting people to respect you and want to do the things that need doing.. its the hearts and minds thing that has been nicked by the media to explain how the allies bomb the hell out of a country whilst giving the kids chocolate bars.. but it means that you can connect with people both on an intellectual level (the logic behind something) and on an emotional level (you're a good person who they respect)..

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In reply to kimbers.

That's just shouting. Authority would be getting it done without the shouting.

Hi viz jacket.

I ooze it. It's a bit sticky and just a little smelly, but it serves me well.

Also known as "bar presence", for getting served in a crowded pub.

Spin - Member
In reply to kimbers.
That's just shouting. Authority would be getting it done without the shouting.
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Mary Poppins is a great example IMO. People want leadership not bosses. You can spot a leader almost immediately.

Confident
Competent
Authoritative
Generous
Energetic
Open
Principled
Moral
Fair
Focussed
Thoughtful

Make an acronym out of that

You can be who you want to be because you are what you think, and you can think what you want.

Thanks for the answers, especially Buzz's. I got quite a big promotion recently, and am still growing into the role, so that last post is very useful. 😀

Spit Spot!

You've got to be really, really rude.

And quite tall. And have a decent head of hair. And you have to be really confident that when you say something, it'll just happen. If you're confident enough, it will.

I have no idea.. I'm a born follower.. I'll follow a cat if it looks like it's going somewhere..

if someone looks like they're about to commit violence upon me then I'll usually do what they ask.. is that it..?

I'd imagine some of it can be learned, but never all of it, the best leaders know it already, and most that want to learn it won't.

"It" is prob along the lines of the list above.

Watch an infant/junior school head mistress (they're normally women) address a school hall full of their pupils. That's natural authority.

samuri - Member
You've got to be really, really rude.

And quite tall. And have a decent head of hair. And you have to be really confident that when you say something, it'll just happen. If you're confident enough, it will.

Three out of four ain't bad 🙂

Otherwise, Buzz's list sounds like a very good starting point.

It help if, in addition to being taller etc, you are also better at everything you do than the people under you. You should also make sure that they are reminded of this every time they show themselves to be less god at things than you.

Like Jeremy Clarkson.

well said buzz, in addition: a natural leader will be inclusive... naturally putting people at ease allowing everyone to join in, not just the wanna-be-leaders 🙂

being good looking helps, nobody likes taking instructions from an ugly beast.

Natural Authority: is accepted by a group/team of people who respect the natural leader. Respect however has to be earned and not demanded.

I'd say it can be cultivated to a large extent but there are probably physical elements (height, looks, voice etc.) that can help or hinder, especially if you're talking about 'first impressions' situations like bar presence. If it's something that can be demonstrated over the longer term buzz's list is probably about right.

EDIT: Don't the police teach recruits how to present themselves with authority or is that a myth?

being good looking helps

I think I have developed a soft spot. Or is that a har.. (I had better not go there).

Make an acronym out of that

CCAGEOPMFFT. They have to be Welsh?

Don't follow leaders.

Things I've started doing in the last couple of months:
- communicating assertively: saying "I need this by tomorrow morning please", instead of "if you have time, it would be a good idea if you were able to..."
- making more time for my people when they have questions etc. (Not easy, as I'm still doing my old job). And randomly taking people for lunch or a drink when I can.

You've got to be really, really rude.

have a decent head of hair

And quite tall.

watch the parking meters