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So me and Molly were moseying through the park minding our own business. As soon as we got past all the people lying around enjoying the sun, I let her off the lead (in case she'd insist on going over to say hello to anyone who wouldn't welcome the attention). I let her off nearish to a group of people with two dogs. One of them came to say hello to Molly - she sort of got pinned between his front legs on her back - submissive body language to the bigger dog - fair enough. This dog had a collar and tag. She tried to wriggle out and he pinned her down again, at which point I started to worry and asked the people whose group he had left to call him off - "Oh, he's not ours" they said...that's why they were holding one of their dogs up in the air!! (Well thanks for ****ing telling me!). Turns out he was roaming loose and there was no answer to the number on his collar.
Next thing I knew, there was a yelp and Molly was being flung around - she didn't stand a chance against this dog - I drew around half a dozen of the hardest kicks I could muster at the dog - one of them lifted him a foot clear off the ground - before he left her alone (toddling off as if I hadn't touched him) - damn near broke my foot kicking the ****er.
She was scared shitless and had three puncture wounds around the ear and cheek - one of them fairly deep and bleeding. Once she realised he was gone though, fair dues to her, she calmed right down and let me wash her wounds (and had a few treats 🙂 ). Thankfully the vet just a few minutes away saw her straight away. Anti-inflammatories, antibiotics and a consultation left us £75 lighter...but mightily relieved. Molly herself doesn't let much get to her and seems fine now - tail is wagging and she's just a bit zonked from the painkiller.
Poor thing - she gets on really well with all her mates at the park and seems popular with all the other owners. TBH I'm as shook up at having to kick another dog as violently as I did - well not [i][b]as[/b][/i] shook up, but y'know what I mean.
And there I was enjoying a sunny day... 🙁
Anybody care to guess the breed of the other dog?
BMW?
BMW?
🙂
Close but no cigar for you today yossarian.
Poodle?
Glad your dogs ok.
was it a rooney dog?
Hope dog is ok and it soon forgets that nowt worse than badly behaved dogs
I am going for something big if you had to kick it that hard
Rotty? alsatian? Boxer?
PS WTF were you thinking of naming your dog after Molgrips
Kin 'el. As long as she's alright.
You know that you just need to say the word and we'll be round.
😉
Anybody care to guess the breed of the other dog?
Staffie?
PS WTF were you thinking of naming your dog after Molgrips
**** you Junky!!
What has been heard cannot be unheard 😯
Staffy? Seems to be the chav's dog of choice round here.
EDIT: beat me to it DS
staffy?
hope Mol wasn't too traumatised by the grip
Could have been anything?? One of the families dogs which was a terrier got litterally ripped in two by two greyhounds. And my dad once broke a dogs jaw when it attacked his puppy, I really wouldn't feel bad, it might have learned something from being kicked!
Chav pit bull?
Next time you walk the dog bring along a metal bar pretending to play fetch with your dog so if any dog attacks your little dog, use the bar to whack straight into the attacker's dog nose bridge ... that will kill it. One problem solves. Simple.
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p/s: apply the same technique to the owner after the above.
I'll guess Staffie or Staff cross, sad as our Staff is a very peacable creature.
Yep, it was a staffie 🙁
She plays with two or three of them that she knows - all lovely dogs. Thankfully he wasn't a "big" one - and the fact that he was flinging her by the scruff suggests that he wasn't going right for the kill.
You kicked a dog ? <evils from the STW pooch massif, "only playing", "doesn't normally do that" etc>
You [s]kicked a[/s] rescued your dog ? <[s]evils[/s] applause from the STW pooch massif>
I'm always saddened when this happens as the Staffie does get a bad press and it's not always the dog's fault. They look aggressive and fit the bill for the chav hardman but in reality they are very, very peaceful. Their strength and weakness is their desire to please the owner and therefore very easy train to be aggressive. 😥
When the chav owner discovers that the dog is not violent by nature, they're dumped. Not all staffies are bad, the wanchors that train them are bad.
I apologise on behalf of all responsible Staffie owner.
Oh ya ... don't forget to whack the owner as well while you are at it. Most are owners' fault.
on simon - MemberI'm always saddened when this happens as the Staffie does get a bad press and it's not always the dog's fault. They look aggressive and fit the bill for the chav hardman but in reality they are very, very peaceful. Their strength and weakness is their desire to please the owner and therefore very easy train to be aggressive.
When the chav owner discovers that the dog is not violent by nature, they're dumped. Not all staffies are bad, the wanchors that train them are bad.
I apologise on behalf of all responsible Staffie owne
+1
I'm always saddened
Me too don - because I'll be a tad more nervous for a while now when I see one approach us - like I said though, she has a few friends that are staffies and they play fine together. As long as she has a nice playful walk in the park tomorrow morning, I'm sure she'll be reet. It's the owners that stay shook up longer than the pooches. 🙂
And thanks iDave - I did what was necessary at the time but it felt damn uncomfortable doing it. 😐
Honestly this really BMP. Just feeds fuel to the anti-doggers(that can't be right). If it were my dog that attacked i'd given him a boot you wouldn't have had to. Hope the pup is OK.
Confused look from a thorough bred mongrel with a touch of staffie somewhere in his genes.
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ChavBulls are generally not Staffies, they are often much bigger certainly the ones that are common round here are much bigger than Staffies. Gives Staffies a bad name which is a shame as they are nice dogs, not my cup of tea but nice enough. Starange thing is these dogs the chavs get to look tough are usually placcid as hell with people, but can very easily be dog agressive. Luckily for me my dog can outrun anything in that comes into our local park.
Actually, before the thread goes on, I don't want it to turn into a lets-beat-up-on-staffies thing. I was probably feeling a bit on edge when I asked the original question. As emma82 said, it could have been anything. In fact there's a really nasty BT that comes to the park that goes for anything smaller than it.
If it were my dog that attacked i'd given him a boot
His owner wasn't around - nor was there any answer to the phone number on the collar (I didn't ring it, that was someone else).
dogs should be on leads.
dogs should be on leads.
no, they should be under control
more non staffies out there than proper staffies.alot more..
and the chav dogs arent know where near proper staffies.mostly either crosses or pitbull crosses.
should be on leads where other dogs are around.
dogs should be on leads.
no, they should be under control
And not wear helmets or use electricty generated by nuclear power...
Or eat white carbs
Hope Molly's OK Deadly. Give her a treat from me 🙁
get mine on lead whenever other dogs are near for reasons of the op.
I found that my former Spud was better off the lead when other dogs were around, felt less threatened and dominated...
She was off the lead when it happened - just wrong place wrong time today for us. She's brightened up quite a bit now 🙂 It's the drugs.
Thanks everyone for concern though. Just wanted to get it off my chest.
get mine on lead whenever other dogs are near for reasons of the op.
I get mine off the lead, she reduced one ChavBull called Butch to a simpering wreck after it tried to chase her and she turned the tables on it with a series of growling flyby's. Owner didnt see the funny side for some reason.
It's ironic though, over the years, the only breed of dog I've never had any trouble from whilst cycling or running is a Staffie. Everything else nearly, inc labradors on several occasions.
staffies are great with humans though annab...
i know what they can be like,not all but most with other dogs so i keep mine on the lead.
used to be part of different staffie breed clubs etc,and just somet that is insisted upon is keep them on the lead. ...may be wrong but,i know one of mine is no good with other dogs,and tuther aint much better,great dogs ovreall but powerful when in dog fights 😕
My friend used to have staffs - he loves them.
A few years ago we were in a park enjoying the sun and a staffy went running past towards other dogs with the owner lazily calling it back.
After the runaway dog was retrieved (fortunately before it could attack anything), my friend had a bit of a 'word' with the owner.
According to my friend most staffies just don't get on with strange dogs or cats - if you own one, you keep it on the lead.
I know how this feels. sorry you and the pup had to go through it. I took my dog for a walk ( staffie ) and went into a field. He was on his harness with lead and a collar. A Alsation came over and started to sniff him my dog stood completely still when the other dog started trying to bite him. i swang my dog with the lead out of the way of his attacks but he grabbed hold of my dogs leg.
I dropped my dog to the floor and scrabbled for the Alsations collar and guess what, nothing there. Last resort was to grab the dog in a head lock until the dogs owner came over and dived on him... I hurled abuse at him for him not having a collar on his dog as its easy to control them with the collar as you can twist it to cut there air supply.
truly awful also got chased by a Alsation on my mtb the guy shouted " Oiiii stop he dont like bikes". Surely the idiot should have him on a lead in a public park then?
When Molly's about 18 month old take her back the park and see if you can find it, then the dog in question will realise picking on a Border Terrier is the last thing you want to do.
Sad to hear that. Had a similar encounter myself with my mates staffie. The best advice i can give you now is to socialise molly as much as possible so she doesnt become afraid of other dogs and become defensive.
you should not feel guilty for kicking it and everyone knows you get good dogs and bad dogs and it is not down to breed. Never had an issue with staffs tbh. had a few with Alsatians [ including one I owned]
+1 dogs need to be under control not on a lead this one was ownerless so the lead was the least of the issues.
Goes to show, jut 'cos you're a puppy, doesn't mean life is gonna be all fluffy and bouncy and pink! Andrex have a lot to answer for.
Glad to hear the pups ok, similar happened to me last summer - walking GF's dog (mouthy Jack Russel) on a lead along a narrow pavement - next to a busy road, staffy walking down the pavement towards with no-one about. Thought it was gonna be ok - until staffie went for the JR, tried to pull the JR clear with the lead. Ended with JR hanging off the lead - with staffie firmly attached. JR was now crapping every where.
GF's kid is now screaming - so sent him to get his Mum (just round the corner) - I punched the staffie a couple of times but no effect. So i grabbed its collar and twisted and it eventually let go.
I now have bleeding JR in one hand and now quiet staffie in the other - and thinking well WTF to do i do now. Bloke comes out of the house next to me - and i asked politely whether it was f'ing dog - just shrugs and shuts the door again.
GF then appears and so starts knocking on other doors to try and find the owner - tatooed bloke appears at door admits to owning dog and blames his "f'king Mum" for leaving the back door open, starts shouting at his Mum from the doorstep. I am still stood, dog in each hand. I politely suggest he comes and gets his dog - so he just grabs it and throws it through the door, it yelped as it the floor.
We suggest he might contribute towards vet bill - he just laughed and slammed the door shut.
We told the police but they weren't hugely interested. To be honest i felt really sorry for his dog - he clearly treated it v badly and was the prime reason it was aggressive.
Dam thing needs putting down. Might be child's face next time.
Had the same thing happen to an old dog of my parents year ago in Exeter. Some fat lump just watch their dog attacking ours.
so he just grabs it and throws it through the door, it yelped as it the floor.
This is why that dog is violent. Staffys are strong dogs, unfortunately because of this the are frequently own by ****s as something to pose with and beat.
p.s. Richard Ballantine's book has a section on killing dog which attack.
