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That has got to be a fair total


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:14 pm
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Come on Archer!!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:17 pm
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this is worse than a penalty shoot out


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:20 pm
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:31 pm
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****ing hell!!! That was amazing..... A better finish than Wilkinson’s drop goal!

YESSSSSSSS!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:32 pm
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Never in doubt


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:32 pm
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My heart is ****ed


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:33 pm
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Never in doubt? Get out!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:33 pm
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Nobody deserved to lose that. Great game.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:34 pm
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I feel for NZ, so unlucky


 
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That was a bit tense. 🙂

Am I right in thinking they used to settle a tie on wickets lost (which would have meant NZ winning)?


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:35 pm
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Must be the day for down to the wire wins. Well fought New Zealand and (spoilers) Federer.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:35 pm
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I'm so happy, and surprised, that we've fought such a fight and actually won.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:37 pm
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I don't even like cricket but that was the awsomz.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:38 pm
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Why did we win?


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:39 pm
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I don't think I've ever watched a game of cricket until the end, know nothing about it and assumed it was one of the dullest sports out there.

I'm going to have to reappraise my opinion...that was absolutely phenomenal sport...as good as I can remember watching. What a finish!!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:39 pm
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Why did we win?

In the event of a tie, results from the pre-tournament pub quiz are taken into consideration.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:42 pm
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Please someone explain, it's a draw but we win ???


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:43 pm
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Equal runs at the end of each innings - doesn't matter about wickets at that point.

Super over, whoever gets most runs in the super over wins.

If that's equal then it's the number of boundaries in both the normal innings AND the super over:

England hit 22 fours and three sixes in their innings.

New Zealand hit 14 fours and two sixes.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:46 pm
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Thanks - TV didn't explain it!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:48 pm
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Fair play, even for stickball*, that was exciting. 😀

*only joking really, amazing day of sport for both sets of stickballists!!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:49 pm
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Amazing entertainment, a real "where were you moment". Roll on the ashes! Can't help (this being cricket and not football) but feel a bit sorry for NZ after the 4 overthrows off Stokes' bat. I wouldn't be surprised if the rules are reappraised once the dust has settled.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:50 pm
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I'll be honest here. At 86-4 I thought England had blown it especially with the top order falling so easily. NZ set some very good fields and bowled very well, actually more than very well, in the same way that they beat India in the semi.

What a match though, what a match.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:50 pm
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palpitation city ! 😀


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 8:57 pm
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Oh my kiddy aunt! So my kids decided to have a melt down with 3 overs left. I managed to drag it out to 50 overs when my wife threatened divorce if I didn't help put the kids to bed.
Put the TV on pause for 45 minutes to come back to the most tense 15 minutes if my life.
Got to feel for NZ, they would if won if it wasn't for that freak throw on to Stoke's bat.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 9:27 pm
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NZ must be gutted. They drew in the match and drew in the suoer over but somehow that's a loss- WTF!

I would have been OK with a draw, and in the Tennis!


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 9:32 pm
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Amazing entertainment, a real “where were you moment”. Roll on the ashes! Can’t help (this being cricket and not football) but feel a bit sorry for NZ after the 4 overthrows off Stokes’ bat. I wouldn’t be surprised if the rules are reappraised once the dust has settled.

Equally crucial was the 6 given when the fielder stepped onto the boundary. I felt he could have done better. It felt like an unnecessary step. I might have to look at it again.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 9:33 pm
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Got to feel for NZ, they would if won if it wasn’t for that freak throw on to Stoke’s bat.

or Guptill's review of a plumb lbw

or Boult standing on the boundary for the catch

or Roy's misfield

or.....

ifs, buts and maybes, it went to the wire and was an amazing game


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 9:35 pm
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Intense one of those great sporting moments.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 9:40 pm
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What a match! What a rollercoaster! I feel emotionally drained just having watched that - some of it from the other room as looking was too much to bear!

The Kiwis need to tour here every summer, the battles with England are becoming stuff of legends.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 10:11 pm
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Now I’ve come down a bit I don’t know if I’m happy with the result being decided like that, after all NZ lost fewer wickets, I think maybe that should’ve decided it 😕


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 10:47 pm
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Nah, it's a simple game..... 50 overs, who scores the most.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 11:15 pm
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everybody knows the rules beforehand, but as a team it's probably easier to keep a track of the number of wickets than the number of boundaries scored. Seems odd as if it had gone to duckworth lewis due to rain then wickets would have been part of the equation.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 11:21 pm
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But the DLM has to take into account run rate throughout an innings and amount of wickets taken will reflect in the potential for more runs. In this situation both teams completed their 50 overs.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 11:25 pm
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exactly, wickets is a tangible and understandable part of the equation being more "entertaining" less so.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 11:30 pm
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Bit of an anti climax in the end.
RM.


 
Posted : 14/07/2019 11:38 pm
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just rewatched the highlights.....and a couple of things I missed in the excitement.

With 3 to win off two balls in 'normal time' Stokes dug a yorker out to long on and they ran two (one counting) because Rashid was run out. If the Kiwi's had thrown to the keeper's end Stokes would have been run out by half a pitch! He was still in the picture for the umpires review of the Rashid run out; Boult could even have thrown to Latham and got him out still.

and then on the last ball - Stokes had already decided he was going to get bat on ball, bunt it anywhere and push for two knowing that one would at least get them to the super over. WORST    PREMEDITATION    EVER

It was a leg stump knee high full toss. If he'd played it on its merits it would have gone into the top tier!!

Such a shame the end of the game should be marred by two terrible bits of cricket 😉


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 12:09 am
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I don’t know if I’m happy with the result being decided like that, after all NZ lost fewer wickets, I think maybe that should’ve decided it

it was super harsh on NZ and they would have been worthy winners, but I'm not sure about this - the way a team views remaining wickets is very different depending on whether they bat first or are chasing. Boundaries, not so much.

Still though. What a match! What an absolutely, incredibly ridiculous finale to a world cup!

I still can't quite believe it happened...


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 12:21 am
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Well that was reasonably tight - Lords was a tad too raucous though.


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 12:37 am
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Well that's the 1st cricket match I really enjoyed.

Great stuff.

It was nice for an English team to get a bit of luck for once.


 
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Apparently the overthrows from Stokes' bat should have been five not six(!) According to Simon Taufel (one of the all time great umpires) the second run that was as a result of the batsmen actually running should not have counted as they had not crossed at the time the ball was thrown....!!

Honestly, I don't know if he is right or not - even having played cricket for 20+ years I don't know the rule on that - and neither did anyone in the NZ team by the look of it!


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 1:31 pm
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@dannyh - that's the first time I have heard this - is it just one individual's opinion or is anyone else in agreement?


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 1:42 pm
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@johndoh

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jul/15/england-ben-stokes-mistake-umpire-cricket-world-cup-final-six-runs-new-Zealand

Law 19.8 of the MCC rulebook states: “If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be any runs for penalties awarded to either side and the allowance for the boundary and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.”

I played hundreds (somewhere around the 600-700 by a rough estimate) of games from the age of 12-33 and never came across this!


 
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Yeah I have seen the article, I was just wondering if anyone else has come out supporting his opinion (not that it can change the outcome surely).


 
Posted : 15/07/2019 2:01 pm
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^ I haven't seen anyone else's opinion, but Taufel serves on the ICC committee that decides the laws, so...


 
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